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Polonius wrote:Once you're in the friend zone there's no getting out. If you're the kind of guy that gets into that situation, there's no way you'll be the kind of guy that can get out of it.

Lies. If you play your cards right, you can get in and out of any situation imaginable.

You just have to have a good pokerface and a decent reason to play.

Slarg232 wrote:Also, he has been in the situation for a while, I'm just now getting into it

Well, you need to nip that in the bud. Go for it!

Slarg232 wrote:

Polonius wrote:Once you're in the friend zone there's no getting out. If you're the kind of guy that gets into that situation, there's no way you'll be the kind of guy that can get out of it.

Lies. If you play your cards right, you can get in and out of any situation imaginable.

You just have to have a good pokerface and a decent reason to play.

But, you can't read my, can't read my, no you can't read my poker face!

Slarg232 wrote:

Polonius wrote:Once you're in the friend zone there's no getting out. If you're the kind of guy that gets into that situation, there's no way you'll be the kind of guy that can get out of it.

Lies. If you play your cards right, you can get in and out of any situation imaginable.

You just have to have a good pokerface and a decent reason to play.

Any guy that's clueless enough to land in the friend zone and then ask for advice here is almost assuredly incapable of putting together enough game to pull it off. Yes, like most things it's theoretically possible. People accomplish it. But the best advice is to move on, and take a better swing at the next girl.

Cheesecat wrote:
Unfortunately your advice contradicts Cannerus's and I've found both your guys advice helpful, but I don't know which is a better choice.

Take my advice if you want to feth her. Take MR's if you'd like a relationship. Pretty simple in the long run I would advise NOT to take her out on "friend dates" though. This will mean she has: A) your affection, B) your time and C) your money. What do you have? Friendship, which youwouldahve anyway. There is no such thing as "sweetening" a girl to like you. Similar to how they say if a girl is a slut no guy will stay with her because they can get what they want, no girl will want to be with you if they can get what they want (emotional support, etc.) without having to and they will find the closest "bad boy" and give him everything you want then complain to you about him.

@MR: I sang that at karaoke the other night Got a standing ovation.

Polonius wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

Polonius wrote:Once you're in the friend zone there's no getting out. If you're the kind of guy that gets into that situation, there's no way you'll be the kind of guy that can get out of it.

Lies. If you play your cards right, you can get in and out of any situation imaginable.

You just have to have a good pokerface and a decent reason to play.

Any guy that's clueless enough to land in the friend zone and then ask for advice here is almost assuredly incapable of putting together enough game to pull it off. Yes, like most things it's theoretically possible. People accomplish it. But the best advice is to move on, and take a better swing at the next girl.

Hey, I already said that I'm most likely going to fail but I still want to try for one last push out of the "FZ" even if I feth things over.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
Unfortunately your advice contradicts Cannerus's and I've found both your guys advice helpful, but I don't know which is a better choice.

Take my advice if you want to feth her. Take MR's if you'd like a relationship. Pretty simple in the long run I would advise NOT to take her out on "friend dates" though. This will mean she has: A) your affection, B) your time and C) your money. What do you have? Friendship, which youwouldahve anyway. There is no such thing as "sweetening" a girl to like you. Similar to how they say if a girl is a slut no guy will stay with her because they can get what they want, no girl will want to be with you if they can get what they want (emotional support, etc.) without having to and they will find the closest "bad boy" and give him everything you want then complain to you about him.

Pure, unadulterated truth.

/thread

And boom goes the dynamite.

Cheesecat wrote:

Polonius wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

Polonius wrote:Once you're in the friend zone there's no getting out. If you're the kind of guy that gets into that situation, there's no way you'll be the kind of guy that can get out of it.

Lies. If you play your cards right, you can get in and out of any situation imaginable.

You just have to have a good pokerface and a decent reason to play.

Any guy that's clueless enough to land in the friend zone and then ask for advice here is almost assuredly incapable of putting together enough game to pull it off. Yes, like most things it's theoretically possible. People accomplish it. But the best advice is to move on, and take a better swing at the next girl.

Hey, I already said that I'm most likely going to fail but I still want to try for one last push out of the "FZ" even if I feth things over.

The only way to stop being in the friend zone is to stop being a friend.

Polonius wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Polonius wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

Polonius wrote:Once you're in the friend zone there's no getting out. If you're the kind of guy that gets into that situation, there's no way you'll be the kind of guy that can get out of it.

Lies. If you play your cards right, you can get in and out of any situation imaginable.

You just have to have a good pokerface and a decent reason to play.

Any guy that's clueless enough to land in the friend zone and then ask for advice here is almost assuredly incapable of putting together enough game to pull it off. Yes, like most things it's theoretically possible. People accomplish it. But the best advice is to move on, and take a better swing at the next girl.

Hey, I already said that I'm most likely going to fail but I still want to try for one last push out of the "FZ" even if I feth things over.

The only way to stop being in the friend zone is to stop being a friend.

That's why I plan on isolating myself from her until I have a clearer head.

Good. Get used to not having her in your life. Because you will never have sex with her.

Ehh, people have sex for lots of reasons at lots of times. I can testify that you never know who you may end up in the sack with I've been with friends from high school years after that I never thoguht I would.

You must tear down the old cheesecat, than rebuild him. Then tear him back down, break for lunch, and if there's time, rebuild him again.

I'm also riding a poor dating streak that's gone on for way too long. Somehow between losing weight and getting an awesome new job I've become less attractive.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Ehh, people have sex for lots of reasons at lots of times. I can testify that you never know who you may end up in the sack with I've been with friends from high school years after that I never thoguht I would.

Truth. In a lot of ways it can actually be EASIER to feth one of your friends, depending on how evil you are of course. It helps that I'm a soulless arsehole when it comes to women (or at least, I was in a past life, so to speak...).

How can it possibly be easier, you may ask?

Well, you're already in the Dreaded Friend Zone, correct? The solution: get deeper into the Dreaded Friend Zone. Become mayor of the Dreaded Friend Zone. Get so close to her that you have sleepovers, and lay under the duvet watching 'Friends' or 'Sex and The City whilst eating chocolate'. Give her a shoulder to cry on about her friends, boyfriends, 'women's problems' or the myriad other banal things women insist on talking endlessly about. Become well-informed on fashion/styling, make-up - comment on her perfume, know what it is. Give her advice on stuff like that every once in a while. Get her to trust you completely by NEVER making a move on her or bringing up the possibility - hell, encourage her to sleep with other men! Or at least don't act all hurt if she does (and she will - sadly, you need to get ready for that, mate).

You need to come out and say: 'Listen, I know I've been a bit weird around you - I just had a bit of a crush on you, and while you ARE still gorgeous, I'm pretty much over you. I think it would be really cool if we could be friends. In fact, there's this girl I like - could you give me some pointers?'

She needs to think that fething her is the last thing on your mind - you need to be like a gay BFF to her.


But one day....

She'll be vulnerable, lonely, or just bored - this is the perfect time to bring up the concept of 'feth buddy', because 'Hey, we're friends right? We both like sex, we're both single - it's not like we're gonna fall in love with each other or anything, is it?'

Be advised: This is a long game - don't do this over a fortnight. It might take a year. And you won't end up in a relationship with her this way - things will probably get weird. She might even realise that she was manipulated and hate your guts forever (happened to me) - what I'm talking about IS evil and underhanded, and will make you a bad person.


But at least you'll get what you want.

Albatross wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Ehh, people have sex for lots of reasons at lots of times. I can testify that you never know who you may end up in the sack with I've been with friends from high school years after that I never thoguht I would.

Truth. In a lot of ways it can actually be EASIER to feth one of your friends, depending on how evil you are of course. It helps that I'm a soulless arsehole when it comes to women (or at least, I was in a past life, so to speak...).

How can it possibly be easier, you may ask?

Well, you're already in the Dreaded Friend Zone, correct? The solution: get deeper into the Dreaded Friend Zone. Become mayor of the Dreaded Friend Zone. Get so close to her that you have sleepovers, and lay under the duvet watching 'Friends' or 'Sex and The City whilst eating chocolate'. Give her a shoulder to cry on about her friends, boyfriends, 'women's problems' or the myriad other banal things women insist on talking endlessly about. Become well-informed on fashion/styling, make-up - comment on her perfume, know what it is. Give her advice on stuff like that every once in a while. Get her to trust you completely by NEVER making a move on her or bringing up the possibility - hell, encourage her to sleep with other men! Or at least don't act all hurt if she does (and she will - sadly, you need to get ready for that, mate).

You need to come out and say: 'Listen, I know I've been a bit weird around you - I just had a bit of a crush on you, and while you ARE still gorgeous, I'm pretty much over you. I think it would be really cool if we could be friends. In fact, there's this girl I like - could you give me some pointers?'

She needs to think that fething her is the last thing on your mind - you need to be like a gay BFF to her.


But one day....

She'll be vulnerable, lonely, or just bored - this is the perfect time to bring up the concept of 'feth buddy', because 'Hey, we're friends right? We both like sex, we're both single - it's not like we're gonna fall in love with each other or anything, is it?'

Be advised: This is a long game - don't do this over a fortnight. It might take a year. And you won't end up in a relationship with her this way - things will probably get weird. She might even realise that she was manipulated and hate your guts forever (happened to me) - what I'm talking about IS evil and underhanded, and will make you a bad person.


But at least you'll get what you want.

That is evil, cruel, appaling, and demeaning to her as person.





I love it.

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:

Albatross wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Ehh, people have sex for lots of reasons at lots of times. I can testify that you never know who you may end up in the sack with I've been with friends from high school years after that I never thoguht I would.

Truth. In a lot of ways it can actually be EASIER to feth one of your friends, depending on how evil you are of course. It helps that I'm a soulless arsehole when it comes to women (or at least, I was in a past life, so to speak...).

How can it possibly be easier, you may ask?

Well, you're already in the Dreaded Friend Zone, correct? The solution: get deeper into the Dreaded Friend Zone. Become mayor of the Dreaded Friend Zone. Get so close to her that you have sleepovers, and lay under the duvet watching 'Friends' or 'Sex and The City whilst eating chocolate'. Give her a shoulder to cry on about her friends, boyfriends, 'women's problems' or the myriad other banal things women insist on talking endlessly about. Become well-informed on fashion/styling, make-up - comment on her perfume, know what it is. Give her advice on stuff like that every once in a while. Get her to trust you completely by NEVER making a move on her or bringing up the possibility - hell, encourage her to sleep with other men! Or at least don't act all hurt if she does (and she will - sadly, you need to get ready for that, mate).

You need to come out and say: 'Listen, I know I've been a bit weird around you - I just had a bit of a crush on you, and while you ARE still gorgeous, I'm pretty much over you. I think it would be really cool if we could be friends. In fact, there's this girl I like - could you give me some pointers?'

She needs to think that fething her is the last thing on your mind - you need to be like a gay BFF to her.


But one day....

She'll be vulnerable, lonely, or just bored - this is the perfect time to bring up the concept of 'feth buddy', because 'Hey, we're friends right? We both like sex, we're both single - it's not like we're gonna fall in love with each other or anything, is it?'

Be advised: This is a long game - don't do this over a fortnight. It might take a year. And you won't end up in a relationship with her this way - things will probably get weird. She might even realise that she was manipulated and hate your guts forever (happened to me) - what I'm talking about IS evil and underhanded, and will make you a bad person.


But at least you'll get what you want.

That is evil, cruel, appaling, and demeaning to her as person.






I love it.

Yup, like I said, soulless arsehole.

Honestly that doesn't sound so much evil as the long route to what Cheesecat wants.

I always thought of feth-buddies more people who are exprementing/ find each other attractive but don't want a relathionship.

Shadowbrand wrote:Honestly that doesn't sound so much evil as the long route to what Cheesecat wants.

I always thought of feth-buddies more people who are exprementing/ find each other attractive but don't want a relathionship.

Perhaps, but to insinuate ones self into her life under the pretence of wanting to be best friends, but with the actual objective of gaining her trust in order to exploit her sexually is pretty fiendish, no?

I 100% accept that the concept of 'feth buddying' can arise naturally and isn't necessarily 'evil'.

Albatross wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Ehh, people have sex for lots of reasons at lots of times. I can testify that you never know who you may end up in the sack with I've been with friends from high school years after that I never thoguht I would.

Truth. In a lot of ways it can actually be EASIER to feth one of your friends, depending on how evil you are of course. It helps that I'm a soulless arsehole when it comes to women (or at least, I was in a past life, so to speak...).

How can it possibly be easier, you may ask?

Well, you're already in the Dreaded Friend Zone, correct? The solution: get deeper into the Dreaded Friend Zone. Become mayor of the Dreaded Friend Zone. Get so close to her that you have sleepovers, and lay under the duvet watching 'Friends' or 'Sex and The City whilst eating chocolate'. Give her a shoulder to cry on about her friends, boyfriends, 'women's problems' or the myriad other banal things women insist on talking endlessly about. Become well-informed on fashion/styling, make-up - comment on her perfume, know what it is. Give her advice on stuff like that every once in a while. Get her to trust you completely by NEVER making a move on her or bringing up the possibility - hell, encourage her to sleep with other men! Or at least don't act all hurt if she does (and she will - sadly, you need to get ready for that, mate).

You need to come out and say: 'Listen, I know I've been a bit weird around you - I just had a bit of a crush on you, and while you ARE still gorgeous, I'm pretty much over you. I think it would be really cool if we could be friends. In fact, there's this girl I like - could you give me some pointers?'

She needs to think that fething her is the last thing on your mind - you need to be like a gay BFF to her.


But one day....

She'll be vulnerable, lonely, or just bored - this is the perfect time to bring up the concept of 'feth buddy', because 'Hey, we're friends right? We both like sex, we're both single - it's not like we're gonna fall in love with each other or anything, is it?'

Be advised: This is a long game - don't do this over a fortnight. It might take a year. And you won't end up in a relationship with her this way - things will probably get weird. She might even realise that she was manipulated and hate your guts forever (happened to me) - what I'm talking about IS evil and underhanded, and will make you a bad person.


But at least you'll get what you want.

The truth is both liberating and terrifying at the same time!

Bravo!

@ Albatross fair enough.

Alby, when I saw "cruel" and was halfway through the story I thought you were going to say get super close to her as a friend like you said, make her need you, then completely leave her high and dry for no stated reason Hell, set up a time to see a movie and bail on her without saying anything about it, ignoring any time she references it XD She'll be freaking out so much and so terrified to be without you that she'll come back to you on any terms you set Now THAT's evil!

Wow thats alot of typing. anyway called the girl like 2 weeks ago. And she has yet to call back. And I think she might think I hate her and I think she might hate me. Thats happened before right?

Asherian Command wrote:
Wow thats alot of typing. anyway called the girl like 2 weeks ago. And she has yet to call back. And I think she might think I hate her and I think she might hate me. Thats happened before right?

Sounds like the story of my life.

Cheesecat wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:
Wow thats alot of typing. anyway called the girl like 2 weeks ago. And she has yet to call back. And I think she might think I hate her and I think she might hate me. Thats happened before right?

Sounds like the story of my life.

Yep. except the girl has yet to talk back to me. I say hello to her every day. And I make small talk to her friends because I know her friends very well (Went to grade school with them.) I also know her sister and alot of her other friends. Its hilarious, but she might think i dig one of her friends, which I don't as I am a over protective person when someone gets hurt.
I basically shelter the person and threaten to hurt the person that cause the person i am protecting harm.
So I think that may be it. Or the fact that one of my friends is a pervert and use to dig her.

Except she doesn't know I almost broke his entire arm after he told me that he was going to rape a few girls. And it pissed me off as I got overprotective, but for the right reason. I told him that if he wants to be my friend he will never ever say that again about innocents, and that I will not let anyone innocent in nature to me will not be harmed in anyway. But I said to him that if he trys and mention this to anyone I will ensure that he will never see anyone of me or any of my friends, who are his friends as well, see us again.

Man, am I glad I'm not a teenager anymore. Hot damn.

Polonius wrote:Man, am I glad I'm not a teenager anymore. Hot damn.

Hence why I hate being a teenager.

Asherian Command wrote:

Polonius wrote:Man, am I glad I'm not a teenager anymore. Hot damn.

Hence why I hate being a teenager.

Oh don't worry. Life sucks worse as you get older. Just in different ways.

Polonius wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

Polonius wrote:Man, am I glad I'm not a teenager anymore. Hot damn.

Hence why I hate being a teenager.

Oh don't worry. Life sucks worse as you get older. Just in different ways.

Yeah I really hope there is not as much freaking drama. Ugh.

There is drama. But rather than stupid petty drama, it's actually important drama. I have friend's that see their kids twice a year because of drama. Life doesn't get easier, it just gets more real. You stop having time for the stupid stuff.

Well. Yeah that is completely true and then you make more decisions but in my family It will be better outside as I am limited so much.

Polonius wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

Polonius wrote:Man, am I glad I'm not a teenager anymore. Hot damn.

Hence why I hate being a teenager.

Oh don't worry. Life sucks worse as you get older. Just in different ways.

You sound like a pessimistic person, I try to find the positive in every situation.