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George Spiggott wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:But what are the watermelons on his feet for?

I don't remember telling him to do that.

This is the best post combo I've ever seen on Dakka, bar none. +8999 internets.

Arctik_Firangi wrote:I hope you learned your lesson. A higher grade is not obliged to train with you, nor treat you as an equal. Society is a different place to the dojo.

Spar with your own grade and don't be so cocky.

It was a Showcase the matches and sparing which were decided weeks in advance and I was to show my skills against each belt grade up to brown. My partners were set by the head coach and they all agreed.

Also in the dojo no matter who you spar with be it a kid or grand master it is mat etiquette to bow before.
Our Dojo does not lock each person into sparing with their own belts. On the large mat when sparing begins you align on any of the small mats with your training partner. After the spar the winner goes down 1 and the loser goes up 1 map. We do not get aligned in grades it is random so that we are either sparin with a new guy to help, a equal or even someone better to see if you are getting close to being able to grade.
Even the 3 coaches are involved in this. (1st dan, 2nd dan and 4th dan)

You could just ignore him, but if I learned anything it's that this'll just be the start of your troubles. Soon you'll meet a pretty girl, only to find out she's seeing the bad guy. Despite him treating her badly, she'll stay with him. The bad guy will see you as a threat and begin persecuting you.

At this point, your only option will be to find an eccentric but wise ethnic mentor. He will teach you some valuable life lessons before taking you on a musical training montage.

I already have a pretty girl and she thinks I have anger issues lol. (I scream down the phone to idiots who think a signature, security footage and CCTV is not enough evidence to prove I was in a place)

Also where will I find this mentor? I cannot miss out on such an epic adventure.

Have you tried your local gardening centre?

And possibly the best idea would just be to train harder so that if you come up against him on the mat again you have a better chance of planting him on his ass (though remember to be the better man about it, don't be a tool ).

Want me to send the mother-in-law, to sort him out.?

P.S. She's 2nd dan

Ahtman wrote:

Arctik_Firangi wrote:I hope you learned your lesson. A higher grade is not obliged to train with you, nor treat you as an equal. Society is a different place to the dojo.

Spar with your own grade and don't be so cocky.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or just a jackass but you must have missed where the instructors had set the whole thing up. The Brown Belt would have had to ignore the his superiors to ignore the sparring match.

Ahtman is rough but correct. Further, in every sport I was in there was a duty to train with respect towards the lower belts. You teach the younger ones and learned from the older ones. As I've taught kids and velociraptor ages, if I had seen one of my kids doing that (the disrespectful bow at the start, I too have never seen actual strikes in a Judo match especially to that level) I'd have chewed his ass in front of everyone for that. Bigtime.

Frazzled wrote:
Take out the whippy sticks inside the box.

Then you'll know what to do.

I thought this was about sports, not sexual arousal.

Arctik_Firangi wrote:I hope you learned your lesson. A higher grade is not obliged to train with you, nor treat you as an equal. Society is a different place to the dojo.

Spar with your own grade and don't be so cocky.

I kind of hope you're serious here. I love macho nerds.

My all-time favourite though has to be Golden Eyed Scout claiming to be (and I quote) 'pretty handy in a knife-fight'.

Albatross wrote:

Arctik_Firangi wrote:I hope you learned your lesson. A higher grade is not obliged to train with you, nor treat you as an equal. Society is a different place to the dojo.

Spar with your own grade and don't be so cocky.

I kind of hope you're serious here. I love macho nerds.

My all-time favourite though has to be Golden Eyed Scout claiming to be (and I quote) 'pretty handy in a knife-fight'.

I'm a freaking grand master with whippy sticks, specializing in the two stick method (way of the red and blue). Fear my aged whippy stick wrath!!!

Frazzled wrote:

I'm a freaking grand master with whippy sticks, specializing in the two stick method (way of the red and blue). Fear my aged whippy stick wrath!!!

If you had to choose one of them would you choose red stick or blue stick?


Back to the topic, if you had any high-level buddies, just ask them to destroy the guy.

I'm a 1st Degree blackbelt of Isshinryu Karate, and I've never had anything like that happen. Never even seen it. Everybody in my school treats eachother with respect, regardless of the level of skill they have. I've never heard of that sort of thing happening before.

Albatross wrote:My all-time favourite though has to be Golden Eyed Scout claiming to be (and I quote) 'pretty handy in a knife-fight'.

That was awesome.

Too bad his skills at sock-puppetry weren't as keen.

Burrrned.

Albatross wrote:I kind of hope you're serious here. I love macho nerds.

My all-time favourite though has to be Golden Eyed Scout claiming to be (and I quote) 'pretty handy in a knife-fight'.

Yeah, Internet Tough Guy syndrome is pretty amusing. I know a few people IRL who actually run (or ran) Dojos, full-on black belts who can kick ass, and all of them are extremely polite and soft-spoken, this whole 'DONT U DARE SPEAK TO A HIGHER BELT SCRUB' bit would be completely foreign to them. Generally the more someone needs to brag, they less good they are at what they brag about, especially on message boards.

BearersOfSalvation wrote:Generally the more someone needs to brag, they less good they are at what they brag about, especially on message boards.

That's why I don't have many posts...




... damn

So wait, is frazzled telling us that he does indeed teach martial arts?

If so, frazzled does it all. He goes to court, he teaches karate, he owns 2 weiner dogs, has an armory for a house, and is a whippy stick master. I could only be so lucky.

Also, disrespect in a sport is still disrespect. The higher up should be respectful to teach the lower ones the respect that they should give.

Albatross wrote:

Arctik_Firangi wrote:I hope you learned your lesson. A higher grade is not obliged to train with you, nor treat you as an equal. Society is a different place to the dojo.

Spar with your own grade and don't be so cocky.

I kind of hope you're serious here. I love macho nerds.

My all-time favourite though has to be Golden Eyed Scout claiming to be (and I quote) 'pretty handy in a knife-fight'.

Yeah, that's deliberately funny if you put it that way, but I'm not trying to pull a tough-guy here. If I'm mistaken and you're comparing GES to the OP I don't get it.

No one is obliged to spar anyone anywhere. That's it. Maybe brown belt was cocky too. Yeah, I can see he broke rules. I'm not denying that he was a disrespectful arsehole. A little bit of disrespect is nothing one can't shrug off, but if you step up and basically ask to be punched in the face, don't be surprised. If someone doesn't want to spar with you, then chances are they're holding back for a reason. OP found out the reason.

I think there's a little more gak going on between the OP and the offender than he's letting on.

If the guy had a problem with sparring the OP though, the time to say it was before the thing was arranged. Then they could have found someone else to spar with him.

I don't think there's much excuse for breaking the rules of the bout like that- people don't sign on to judo teams to get punched in the face- they join boxing clubs or MMA groups for that.

The brown belt had already conceded the match to the OP. He did step out of line but it seems he was coerced to do something he didn't want to do. I'm not pinning him as innocent, but it just seems like the entire conflict was unnecessary. When something as simple as a sparring match gets personal it's time to change directions.

I agree with that- everyone involved should do their best to keep personal animosity out of these things. It's too risky to do otherwise in these sorts of settings.

halonachos wrote:So wait, is frazzled telling us that he does indeed teach martial arts?

If so, frazzled does it all. He goes to court, he teaches karate, he owns 2 weiner dogs, has an armory for a house, and is a whippy stick master. I could only be so lucky.

Also, disrespect in a sport is still disrespect. The higher up should be respectful to teach the lower ones the respect that they should give.

Taught would be the correct term, before most of the people on this board were born (now I feel old ). When you're old enough to call Adam a hippy punk kid you've done a few things.

Wait I thought all "miniature gamers" were whippy stick masters? Don't tell me someone actually used them to measure something.

Frazzled wrote:...before most of the people on this board were born...

Arctik_Firangi wrote:

Frazzled wrote:...before most of the people on this board were born...

If I was there I would have done a running up the wall, flipping, flying, wild kick, out of Drunken Stance.

Whippy sticks might hurt but have you ever thought about sticking a metal dreadnought or warjack in a sock? you could easily crack a skull with that.

Frazzled wrote:

halonachos wrote:So wait, is frazzled telling us that he does indeed teach martial arts?

If so, frazzled does it all. He goes to court, he teaches karate, he owns 2 weiner dogs, has an armory for a house, and is a whippy stick master. I could only be so lucky.

Also, disrespect in a sport is still disrespect. The higher up should be respectful to teach the lower ones the respect that they should give.

Taught would be the correct term, before most of the people on this board were born (now I feel old ). When you're old enough to call Adam a hippy punk kid you've done a few things.

Wait I thought all "miniature gamers" were whippy stick masters? Don't tell me someone actually used them to measure something.

I'm at the wee age of 16, and I am still a whippy stick master. Probably not as good as you though

To survive the gladiator pits that is your FLGS one must be trained in the deadly of whippy stickage.

Arctik_Firangi wrote:

Arctik_Firangi wrote:I hope you learned your lesson. A higher grade is not obliged to train with you, nor treat you as an equal. Society is a different place to the dojo. Spar with your own grade and don't be so cocky.

Yeah, that's deliberately funny if you put it that way, but I'm not trying to pull a tough-guy here. If I'm mistaken and you're comparing GES to the OP I don't get it.

Well, this 'learned your lesson,''higher grade not obliged to show any respect' and 'don't be so cocky' stuff is pure internet tough-guy posturing. I've never seen a dojo that embraced that kind of attitude (and wouldn't want to be in one), and don't believe that anyplace that did embrace that attitude would embrace it ony for brown over green, but not for the sensei over everyone else.

No one is obliged to spar anyone anywhere. That's it.

That depends on how you define 'obliged' - you can always leave a martial arts class, of course, but if the sensei tells you to spar with someone, you're obliged to do so if you want to stay in the class. According to what the OP said, this was an arranged sparring match, he didn't show up and try to get the guy to spar with him.

It's funny, you seem to be saying 'higher belts are better than you, don't you dare contradict your betters', but then add on the 'oh, unless it's the sensei telling you to spar someone, then just disobey him all over the place'. That's part of why it comes off so strongly as Internet Tough Guy posturing, you're ignoring the fact that the highest belt there told them to spar each other, but going on a 'higher belts are better than you' kick at the same time.

Step 1. Go to parking lot
Step 2. Get in assaliants car
Step 3. Wait for assailant to finish showering with his boyfriend
Step 4. When assailant steps out in to the parking lot, hit him with his car.
Step 5.(optional) back up said car.
Step 6. and this is the important one. When your assailant is lying on the ground, hopefully bleeding, pour liquor all over him and call the cops saying you just saw a drunk driving accident.

Hmmm, this sounds like a job for Golden Eyed Scout!


Failing that you can always BLAMETHEVICTIMBLAMETHEVICTIMBLAMETHEARRRGHHHFASCISTSWINEFILTHIHATEYOUALLLLLLLLLLLLL

Fear my aged whippy stick

Bet you say that to all the girls

Could be worse I guess
just glad it isn't a sticky whip