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2010/11/13 05:17:53
Subject: Re:Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
Mr Nobody wrote:But there's close to no consciousness in that body, so he wouldn't be able to operate it.
Cite your source? Because I'm fairly certain the Emperor was active at LEAST up to five thousand years after internment, as that's when met with Alicia Dominica.
It's incorrect to assume that the Emperor was "active" in any but a psychic sense. And even then, what exactly happens during a post-Golden Throne Imperial audience is unknown.
Manchu wrote:It's incorrect to assume that the Emperor was "active" in any but a psychic sense. And even then, what exactly happens during a post-Golden Throne Imperial audience is unknown.
And psychic powers are activated and controlled through willpower.
Corpses don't have willpower, not even in 40k.
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2010/11/13 15:40:23
Subject: Re:Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
And that is why you hear people yelling FOR THE EMPEROR rather than FOR LOGICAL AND QUANTIFIABLE BASED DECISIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE MAJORITY!
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2010/11/13 15:55:26
Subject: Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:The dread would have to be huge even to house him, and he wouldn't have acess to his powers.
Yes to the hugeness, no to the lack of powers. If a Blood Angels Librarian in a Dreadnought can still use his powers there is no doubt the Emperor would still be able to use his.
The reason the Emperor isn't entombed in a Dreadnought is because he didn't chose to be. The Emperor chose to be enthroned, he even told Dorn how to build/modify it so it would keep him alive. When the Emperor says do something you don't do the exact opposite unless you're Horus and his ilk.
2010/11/13 16:01:19
Subject: Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
And besides how would they have done it? When a marine is infused in a dreadnough their nervous system and such are fused with that of the dreadnought. If the Primarchs where so much differant then even Astartes in biology (remember that the medics of the Sons of Horus didn't know how to treat Horus) how do you think they would have opperated on the Emperor? For all we know his insides are made up of pure light and chocolaty goodness.
2010/11/13 16:09:17
Subject: Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote:And besides how would they have done it? When a marine is infused in a dreadnough their nervous system and such are fused with that of the dreadnought. If the Primarchs where so much differant then even Astartes in biology (remember that the medics of the Sons of Horus didn't know how to treat Horus) how do you think they would have opperated on the Emperor? For all we know his insides are made up of pure light and chocolaty goodness.
Giving me ideas of making a Chaos warband that just want to see what's inside the Emperor
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2010/11/13 21:02:53
Subject: Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
As far as I've understood (I haven't read the book myself), the Emperor actually speaks to Inquisitor Jaq Draco in the book "Draco". Not only that, but he actually "pauses" time for the Inquisitor and his retinue, while still running the Empire, keeping chaos out etc. Wouldn't that suggest that he is very much shaping the Imperium? After all, the Custodes have a great deal of influence among the High Lords, and are trained in subterfuge, infiltration and assassination. Is it that unplausable that the Emperor acts out hiss will through the Custodes?
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2010/11/13 21:41:19
Subject: Re:Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
One time a Libarain got super powerful and defeated an entire Ork Wagh by himself and didn't remember anything and one his forehead was burned the Aquila don't believe me check it up.
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2010/11/14 00:57:58
Subject: Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
Someone already mentioned it, but yeah. What GW hasn't told anyone is that the golden palace is actually just the sholders of a truly emperah sized titan.
Pah, why go for a regular dreadnought when you can have the real deal.
2010/11/14 01:06:33
Subject: Re:Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
Dakka Bingo! By Ouze "You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
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2010/11/14 01:41:04
Subject: Re:Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
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2010/11/14 03:39:00
Subject: Re:Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
Mr Nobody wrote:But there's close to no consciousness in that body, so he wouldn't be able to operate it.
Cite your source? Because I'm fairly certain the Emperor was active at LEAST up to five thousand years after internment, as that's when met with Alicia Dominica.
It's incorrect to assume that the Emperor was "active" in any but a psychic sense. And even then, what exactly happens during a post-Golden Throne Imperial audience is unknown.
I imagine it's something like this.
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2010/11/14 04:40:28
Subject: Re:Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
Manchu wrote:It's incorrect to assume that the Emperor was "active" in any but a psychic sense. And even then, what exactly happens during a post-Golden Throne Imperial audience is unknown.
And psychic powers are activated and controlled through willpower.
Corpses don't have willpower, not even in 40k.
What about in the Bleeding Chalice novel? Tetract is a corpse who is kept alive through his own will power, plus the dead he raises are able to understand orders and use lasguns (Im so sad that I can actually recall details from 40k novels )
But why a dreadnought? Wouldnt it be more awesome to put the emperor in a Titan? That way if anyone feths with him he can just stomp on them!
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2010/11/16 19:06:21
Subject: Re:Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
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his body is "dead"
the Golden Throne prevents Decay and allows the Emperor to maintain a Physical Grounding. this prevents him from entering the Warp.
Weather this is a Good or a Bad thing is up in the air.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
There's, like, a few cells left alive. Or not quite dead. The throne includes life support systems, but he also needs the psychic I.V. to keep going. Horus dealt him psychic damage as much as physical injury.
Too bad no one knows how to make a decent phantasmagoria anymore...
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As far as I've understood (I haven't read the book myself), the Emperor actually speaks to Inquisitor Jaq Draco in the book "Draco". Not only that, but he actually "pauses" time for the Inquisitor and his retinue, while still running the Empire, keeping chaos out etc. Wouldn't that suggest that he is very much shaping the Imperium? After all, the Custodes have a great deal of influence among the High Lords, and are trained in subterfuge, infiltration and assassination. Is it that unplausable that the Emperor acts out hiss will through the Custodes?
Spoiler:
Yeah.. it basically said that the Emp has some vast multi-mind (which would explain how his consciousness is in so many places at once), but the problem being some parts of it aren't aware what others are doing (or at least Draco theorises that may be going on).
But, bear in mind the age of that book, and a lot has changed in fluff since then.
Manchu wrote:It's incorrect to assume that the Emperor was "active" in any but a psychic sense. And even then, what exactly happens during a post-Golden Throne Imperial audience is unknown.
And psychic powers are activated and controlled through willpower.
Corpses don't have willpower, not even in 40k.
What about in the Bleeding Chalice novel? Tetract is a corpse who is kept alive through his own will power, plus the dead he raises are able to understand orders and use lasguns (Im so sad that I can actually recall details from 40k novels )
But why a dreadnought? Wouldnt it be more awesome to put the emperor in a Titan? That way if anyone feths with him he can just stomp on them!
Dreadnoughts are life support systems. Titans aren't.
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2010/11/17 03:07:48
Subject: Re:Why not put the emperor in a Dreadnought?
If read titanicus, the moderators are put nurtient rich goo and wired into the titan, similar to how dreadnoughts function. With enough work, you could make this connection more permanent.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Though his soul remains in his body, and do not believe that the emperor has enough living tissue to pilot a dreadnought. Similar to those horror movies, where the house is haunted because the person's corpse is still there.
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