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Mounted police against rioters/demonstrators? that would never happen in France...I mean, everybody knows the rioters would eat the horses!(and we give you our latest delight: Horse meat Merguez!)

More seriously, it seems that it's always the same story with youths demonstrating wherever it happens: small groups of anarchist (or just scavengers) destroying and pillaging as much as possible, whatever the demonstration was about...

I think the armed Police escort did a fine job in resisting the urge to shoot the fethers.

I mean, they could have at least shot one in the leg for good measure.

Also, where is the horse armour? Can't protect the rider and leave the mount. They should just use quad bikes...

Considering the line up at the show they were being forced to attend, one wonders if the attack was not in fact the highlight of the evening.

In fact it was, clearly, staged by royal flunkies in an attempt to get them out of it.

See In America our police force would let them shout and stuff, at least for a little while. But sooner or later, they would of been gassed, water hosed or beaten with batons. I personally like the water hose. That really lets them rioters know, HEY! SHUT YOUR YAP!

KingCracker wrote:
See In America our police force would let them shout and stuff, at least for a little while. But sooner or later, they would of been gassed, water hosed or beaten with batons. I personally like the water hose. That really lets them rioters know, HEY! SHUT YOUR YAP!

Land of the Free indeed.

Still.. a population PO'ed with the govt., economic unrest, strikes... it like the 80s are here again already. Bit of luck we might get a new Clash album, out of this if things continue.

mattyrm wrote:Ah.. the dirty rioting socilialists/anarchists/ignorant dickheads.

I bet your loving it all MGS eh?

/shrug

I leave the UK for good next Wednesday. I shall be secluded in my new lair with my woman, arming ourselves to the teeth and buying tinned goods.

I applaud the non-dirty, protesting socialists for getting up and demonstrating and damn the idiots who attacked Charlie and his talking horse-creature. They detracted and undermined any notion of a cause earning sympathy. I'd love to pin that on 5th columnists but like I said, I suspect it was anarchist idiots.

Still, it's going to get far far worse before it gets better. Can't wait till you get your letter through the post instructing you on how to behave under Sharia law and how your girlfriend is supposed to dress outdoors. Enjoy the increasing rioting in the streets as Cameron and co continue to make cuts and increase taxes to the detriment of the poor.

Also enjoy the deterioration of the public services under your beloved tories, remember when you are still paying the ever increasing taxes and yet find yourself without healthcare, schooling for your children or support if you ever fall out of work for whatever reason, you wanted all this and now it's yours.

reds8n wrote:Bit of luck we might get a new Clash album, out of this if things continue.

I'll get my shovel out the car....

A welcome dose of reality for that PoS Charles.


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p.s. In Paris in '68 the students found out that you could deal effectively with horse-mounted police by using razor-blades attached to sticks to slash at the legs of horses.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

mattyrm wrote:Ah.. the dirty rioting socilialists/anarchists/ignorant dickheads.

I bet your loving it all MGS eh?

/shrug

I leave the UK for good next Wednesday. I shall be secluded in my new lair with my woman, arming ourselves to the teeth and buying tinned goods.

***You need to start saying "canned" goods. You say tinned goods and many people won't know what the you're talking about.

Remember, EEN AMARIGA WE SAY DEES!:
flashlight, not torch
cigarette, not cigarette
stick or log, not cigarette
sausage, not banger (do you still say banger?)
fries, not chips
current, not stream.
Hola! not hello

He's British. If a foreign person doesn't understand you, then one simply repeats what one has just said, just louder and slower. Over and over again. Soon gets the point across.

Frazzled wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

mattyrm wrote:Ah.. the dirty rioting socilialists/anarchists/ignorant dickheads.
I bet your loving it all MGS eh?

/shrug

I leave the UK for good next Wednesday. I shall be secluded in my new lair with my woman, arming ourselves to the teeth and buying tinned goods.

***You need to start saying "canned" goods. You say tinned goods and many people won't know what the you're talking about.

Remember, EEN AMARIGA WE SAY DEES!:
flashlight, not torch
cigarette, not cigarette
stick or log, not cigarette
sausage, not banger (do you still say banger?)
fries, not chips
current, not stream.
Hola! not hello

How quaint.


also: meatballs not [see forum posting rules]?


Am I doing it right?

If you tried pulling a blade on a mounted cop in the US, you'd get shot. Police animals are protected by the same laws, and blades are deadly weapons. Pull a knife on a horse, the cop shoots you dead, enjoys a few weeks of paid leave while they do the paperwork, and the riot breaks up pretty quick like.

I'd also disagree that the current system in the US isnt a mertiocracy. Money has always been able to buy a good education, but if you're genuinely talented, you can get into a great school. Now, that means top 10% or so, but the real cream rises to the top.

This is one time where I watch the report on the news and think "This needs more violence, blood and death."

Each side should just charge the other and batter them, I don't give a crap who wins as long as it's suitably graphic.

If only this happened in Medieval times...

I'd say it is a pseudo-meritocracy. Talent can get you into school, but not always. I'm also not a big fan of Oprah's "Talented 10%" theory.

The protesters need to co-operate with the police to be more organised and help root out the anarchists in their midst. If they don't, then they are not acting to the public good and they undermine their point.

Burning and wrecking things is no way to get a political point across.

Da Boss wrote:The protesters need to co-operate with the police to be more organised and help root out the anarchists in their midst. If they don't, then they are not acting to the public good and they undermine their point.

Burning and wrecking things is no way to get a political point across.

Fun to watch if its not your stuff though...

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Khornholio wrote:No molotov cocktails? Disappointing.

Students would just drink them.

Offer them cigarettes afterwards.

reds8n wrote:

KingCracker wrote:
See In America our police force would let them shout and stuff, at least for a little while. But sooner or later, they would of been gassed, water hosed or beaten with batons. I personally like the water hose. That really lets them rioters know, HEY! SHUT YOUR YAP!

Land of the Free indeed.

Still.. a population PO'ed with the govt., economic unrest, strikes... it like the 80s are here again already. Bit of luck we might get a new Clash album, out of this if things continue.

Dang skippy! Youve got to look at it like this. Sure, your free to express how you feel and protest. Do it the way it should be done and all is well. Piss off the local PD, and they will freely (and usually gladly by this point) kick your teeth in

filbert wrote:I think one of the most disappointing things is seeing how toothless our police force have become to the point where they can't effectively police what amounts to a riot for fear of the bleeding hearts brigade accusing them of 'heavy-handed tactics'.

You know, it's interesting that you should say that.
As far as I can tell, the riot started as all riots start - with a trigger. In this case, it seems to have been the cavalry charges that were aimed at the (mostly) peaceful students. Up until that point, there was nothing going on that we hadn't seen at the other protests. Sure, the damn Social Workers probably started early - they always do. But for the most part, it was peaceful up until that point.
On a more serious note, what I saw sickened me. Police seemed to completely lose control - I watched them tear signs out of the protesters' grips, and lay into them with truncheons. One kid on the floor, already out of the fight, took a blow or two to the skull. No matter what those kids did, they are just that; kids. To treat them with what was essentially excessive force is questionable at best, and at worst morally reprehensible.
You say they're afraid of being accused of "heavy-handed tactics?" They should be, as that's exactly what they did.

Wow the British are soooo French nowadays.

By the way..why didn't they start arresting those fools that started throwing there sticks at them?

GG

p.s. Am I the only one that thought of " The Charge of the fluorescent yellow brigade"?

The police are pretty drastically outnumbered compared to the protestors- when it gets hairy, they have to act hard and fast or they're gonna end up injured or dead. In that sort of situation, you've got to get clear if you're peaceful and if you don't they absolutely can't take chances.

I believe in the right to protest, but I also understand why the police need to bop people on the head sometimes. Really, I think the protestors should co-operate more with them. The police aren't the enemy.

Da Boss wrote:The police are pretty drastically outnumbered compared to the protestors- when it gets hairy, they have to act hard and fast or they're gonna end up injured or dead. In that sort of situation, you've got to get clear if you're peaceful and if you don't they absolutely can't take chances.

I believe in the right to protest, but I also understand why the police need to bop people on the head sometimes. Really, I think the protestors should co-operate more with them. The police aren't the enemy.

Firearms, firearms, firearms. Guarantee you have a pistol fired into the sky, a large chunk of the crowd scatters like roaches

It worked like a charm in the Watts Riots.

Needs more German SWAT. THIS is how to deal with anarchists. Specifically the first clip.


Warning, fairly graphic, but about the same as the previously posted videos.

mattyrm wrote:Ah.. the dirty rioting socilialists/anarchists/ignorant dickheads.

I bet your loving it all MGS eh?

If they attacked Chucks car in my vicinity i would have done my best to kill one of them and then use his corpse to shield our Jug eared Monarch, i mean, i took an oath!

Pleases me no end to hear you are still on the boil Matty. Go get 'em tiger.

I don't like Charles, but I would take a bullet for him, no question.

Happygrunt wrote:Needs more German SWAT.

YEEEEHAW!! YEAH and more Iranian riot squad!!







That'll teach those donkey-caves to disrespect the rule of law of an elected government!!!


wait. what?

Orlanth wrote:I do like Charles, but I wouldn't take a bullet for him, no question.

This pretty much sums up my views.

Orlanth wrote:

mattyrm wrote:Ah.. the dirty rioting socilialists/anarchists/ignorant dickheads.

I bet your loving it all MGS eh?

If they attacked Chucks car in my vicinity i would have done my best to kill one of them and then use his corpse to shield our Jug eared Monarch, i mean, i took an oath!

Pleases me no end to hear you are still on the boil Matty. Go get 'em tiger.

I don't like Charles, but I would take a bullet for him, no question.

Hm, despite the fact that I generally do not agree with Matty, I think this is an exception. Regardless of whether the protests were right or wrong in their aims, I fail to see how the Royal Family, powerless as they are in British government, had anything to do with the rise in tuition fees. The attack was completely unjustified, and I'd be willing to bet that the ones involved were either anarchists or people who are almost certainly not going to university regardless of fees. In short, precisely the kind of people who have no place in a protest, as they inevitably try to start trouble. In this case, Charles and Camilla just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and suffered the wrath of fools for it.

I love the accusations of heavy-handedness leveled at the police. Seriously, brilliant. /sarcasm

Did any of you actually watch this incident unfold, in real time? I did - I had BBC rolling news on in the background whilst I was typing an essay. The police did not start the violence at all. The students had consulted with the police and had been allocated a space in which to stage their rally. Once they reached parliament sq. they refused to leave, then attempted to break police lines in order to get at parliament. I watched the police being pelted with objects, barrier fences being torn down and used as battering rams, fires being lit - the works.
It was only after all this started to get out of hand that the cavalry charged.

IMO, they should have sent in the army, given them baton guns, ranked them up, then read the crowd The Riot Act. Seriously, they should bring it back - disperse or be fired upon.

We should send our overseas cousins some of these.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-taser-weapons-produced-for-crowd-control.html