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Guardsman Serial Number #23400/ijp/98/a3

Emperors Faithful wrote:Guardsman Serial Number #23400/ijp/98/a3

Your avatar...different?!?

RAEG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You were one of the few left I could identify by avatar!

Actually, I hadn't even thought that my avatar might link into this thread.

Besides, I change my avatar often enough. Not much more than you really. Besides, I'd moved on from my Imperial Fureagle fetish for now.

I said Yriels but he is the best at fighting in outer space not in hand to hand for that i would have to say Ausermen i mean the man jump started a whole races army. He is also the only pheonix lord that hasn't died yet. He trained some of the most deadliest warriors ever there for i say he is the best.

Emperors Faithful wrote:Actually, I hadn't even thought that my avatar might link into this thread.

Besides, I change my avatar often enough. Not much more than you really. Besides, I'd moved on from my Imperial Fureagle fetish for now.

True, but it seemed to me that you had the same one since I was a lurker, and I just noticed it was different.
Also, I finally saw the full size image of the aquilla pinup not too long ago

Eldrad wrote:He is also the only pheonix lord that hasn't died yet.

Where are you getting this bit from?

Well, that depends on how you mean "Nightbringer" really.

If you're referring to the actual C'tan in all its star-eating glory, it wins. No contest. Nothing else on the list can even fight it, much less win.

If, however, you're referring to the shell of living metal that the Nightbringer can possess in order to lead the Necrons into battle, which is what the Nightbringer unit represents in 40k, then I don't think that's the most powerful fighter.

So assuming we're dealing with the Nightbringer simulcra, I have to give the title to Ghazghkull. He's a fourteen-foot-tall mountain of muscle and hate, armed with the most brutal weapons available to the Orkish race, aided by his enormous psychic power bolstered by the massed belief of his millions and millions of followers, and bolstered by his insane, unshakable force of will. He's massacred whole regiments of the Imperial Guard, he's smashed the most powerful Orks for hundreds of light-years and absorbed their tribes into his sector-crushing Waagh, and he broke the back of Grand Master Belial in single combat. Calgar may be his better in strategic acumen, Dante might outdo him in speed and tactical ability, but nothing and no-one short of a Primarch could stand against Ghazghkull in a rage.

BeRzErKeR wrote:Well, that depends on how you mean "Nightbringer" really.

If you're referring to the actual C'tan in all its star-eating glory, it wins. No contest. Nothing else on the list can even fight it, much less win.

If, however, you're referring to the shell of living metal that the Nightbringer can possess in order to lead the Necrons into battle, which is what the Nightbringer unit represents in 40k, then I don't think that's the most powerful fighter.

So assuming we're dealing with the Nightbringer simulcra, I have to give the title to Ghazghkull. He's a fourteen-foot-tall mountain of muscle and hate, armed with the most brutal weapons available to the Orkish race, aided by his enormous psychic power bolstered by the massed belief of his millions and millions of followers, and bolstered by his insane, unshakable force of will. He's massacred whole regiments of the Imperial Guard, he's smashed the most powerful Orks for hundreds of light-years and absorbed their tribes into his sector-crushing Waagh, and he broke the back of Grand Master Belial in single combat. Calgar may be his better in strategic acumen, Dante might outdo him in speed and tactical ability, but nothing and no-one short of a Primarch could stand against Ghazghkull in a rage.

cept for Yarrick

Commissars in general tend to be just that kind of badass.

I voted for the C'tan.

C'tan are gods in either form. Nightbringer can't be killed. When the 'dermis breaks, his essence/spirit leaves to just return later. IMO, he shouldn't be on this lsit.

For non god hero, I say a tie between Calgar and Ghazghkull.

For your failure to include him, Khârn will kill, maim and burn you and your children and your children's children and so on... Oh, and where is An'ggrath the Unbound?

Oh, and as I feel like increasing my bad fluff blasphemy-meter: Lord Grand Master Draigo of the Grey Knights, if the rumored fluff is correct. Guess the GK codex failed it's Ward save...

Tmonster wrote:The avatar of khaine is a small piece of the eldar god of war. Nuf Said

Its weird that every time the Eldar summon the avatar it doesn't take too long for the opposing side to bring it down. But then again i only have a few examples of this.

Fafnir wrote:The Avatar, obviously. If the Avatar wasn't the greatest warrior in the universe, who would the Space Marine heroes curb stomp/strangle/viciously feth up the ass to show how badass they are?

This.

In fact, I've devised a formula for calculating the level of power a codex has.

First, you need to know the three variables involved, they are Avatars jobbed (Aj), the Ward Factor (Wf), and lastly, the Quotient of Wallbanging (Q).

Now, in order to find the Quotient of Wallbanging, you need to multiply the amount of Avatars jobbed by the Ward Factor.

So, let's say that Calgar had a slow day, so he only managed to strangle 6 Avatars today. So our Aj variable will be 6.
Now, since this is the Ultramarines we're talking about, the Ward Factor will be pretty high. And since this is Calgar we're talking about, it'll be through the roof. I'd say about 13.78. That's pretty high.

So, we just put all this complex information into a simple equation, like this:

Aj*Wf=Q

Putting the numbers in their proper place:

(6)*(13.78)=Q

So our Quotient of Wallbanging would be around 82.68, and that's pretty damn high, even coming from Matt Ward.

Now, you're probably wondering what this means, right? Well, basically, it tells you how many times you're likely to bang your head on the wall in seething rage/hatred/sexual frustration before you finish reading the codex. If you're the poor soul who'll end up reading this specific codex, you'll probably end up dead on the floor before you even reach the wargear selection.

See, simple physics right there.

rargh! where is angron and kharn?

Mark1130 wrote:I voted for the C'tan.

C'tan are gods in either form. Nightbringer can't be killed. When the 'dermis breaks, his essence/spirit leaves to just return later. IMO, he shouldn't be on this lsit.

I agree the 'gods' shouldn't really be on this list they are kind of in a category all to themselves. No Khaine, no Nightbringer, no Daemon Princes as they kind of transcend being a definable physical individual, just a physical representation of something far bigger.

That said, I think 'warrior' is too broad a term. Who is the most skilly? Probably Lileath, who is the toughest? probably Ghazz, the military genius? Farsight or Yriel... They are all so different. Who would I bet on in a straightforeward brawl between the lot of them? Ghazz hands down.

Guitardian wrote:

Mark1130 wrote:I voted for the C'tan.

C'tan are gods in either form. Nightbringer can't be killed. When the 'dermis breaks, his essence/spirit leaves to just return later. IMO, he shouldn't be on this lsit.

I agree the 'gods' shouldn't really be on this list they are kind of in a category all to themselves. No Khaine, no Nightbringer, no Daemon Princes as they kind of transcend being a definable physical individual, just a physical representation of something far bigger.

That said, I think 'warrior' is too broad a term. Who is the most skilly? Probably Lileath, who is the toughest? probably Ghazz, the military genius? Farsight or Yriel... They are all so different. Who would I bet on in a straightforeward brawl between the lot of them? Ghazz hands down.

sir i disagree with you, angron would win hands down as he is NOT a god but a deamon primarch which confuses me as to why he isn't on the list

I voted for Lelith, because she's a monster one on one in CC.








I also really hate her a lot.

Fafnir wrote:In fact, I've devised a formula for calculating the level of power a codex has.

First, you need to know the three variables involved, they are Avatars jobbed (Aj), the Ward Factor (Wf), and lastly, the Quotient of Wallbanging (Q).

Now, in order to find the Quotient of Wallbanging, you need to multiply the amount of Avatars jobbed by the Ward Factor.

So, let's say that Calgar had a slow day, so he only managed to strangle 6 Avatars today. So our Aj variable will be 6.
Now, since this is the Ultramarines we're talking about, the Ward Factor will be pretty high. And since this is Calgar we're talking about, it'll be through the roof. I'd say about 13.78. That's pretty high.

So, we just put all this complex information into a simple equation, like this:

Aj*Wf=Q

Putting the numbers in their proper place:

(6)*(13.78)=Q

So our Quotient of Wallbanging would be around 82.68, and that's pretty damn high, even coming from Matt Ward.

Now, you're probably wondering what this means, right? Well, basically, it tells you how many times you're likely to bang your head on the wall in seething rage/hatred/sexual frustration before you finish reading the codex. If you're the poor soul who'll end up reading this specific codex, you'll probably end up dead on the floor before you even reach the wargear selection.

See, simple physics right there.

Win.

its Ghazghull no ifs ands or butts, he started his career by being shot in the head by a bolter ( IIRC) and after "repairs" he started hearing the will of Gork and mork, beat, killed and bullied any orcs in his path to follow him and waged a sector wide assault on the IOM, all this from spore...

Most of the others on the list are super-enhanced thingma-bobs or GODS, or splinters of gods etc, But Ghazy has style, and drive, and nobody tells him what to do, except maybe Gork and mork, and Ghaz has the stones to tell them to zog off if he wanted too!

And on a side note, in a mega game I played against a awesome orc player that had Ghazghull leading his forces, and during the game a Reaver titan stepped on old thrakka who used his invul save to survive it,and then attacked the titan in the following round and inflicted 3-4 structure points to it causing a chain-reaction that crippled it, ( we imagined Ghazghull hanging from its foot ripping stuff outta it and cursing at it all the way ), this was followed with cheers from everyone at the table (except for the Titan's owner who got all butthurt), now that is man..er Ork.

Also Yarrick lives because Ghazzy let him, ole thrakka respects his foes and likes to keep the best around to keep his life interesting

Harlequin Solitaire's are badass. And they would be in the running for the best. But there are living Primarchs in both flesh (original) form and those that have succumbed to daemonhood. Those that are daemons are extremely vulnerable to Grey Knights and their Nemesis weapons, so the "living" Primarchs are probably the biggest baddest dudes out there. And if we go strictly with close combat prowess it is the Wolf King or The Lion.

Eldrad?

ZacktheChaosChild wrote:Lucius, may not be THE mightiest, but you can't kill him without damning yourself to the slowest, most painful death ever imaginable as your face and body contort and change back into Lucius as his spirit possesses your body and your soul is locked away in his armor to feel the pain for all eternity.

I have alwasy wondered what would happen of you killed Lucius and then commited suicide? Also what happens if an automated defense system kills him, or a meteor shower, or a natural disaster. Or what if the ship he is on is destroyed? So many flaws to his i'll be back rule that haven't been exploited

Vrakk wrote:Where's Vect? Not only is he a bad-mama-jama in CC but he would manipulate the others into fighting for his benefit. Who's the better warrior - one who chops up his opponent or the one who tricks him into chopping someone up?

This.

I think yriel deserves a bit more respect. He may not ne the best combatant but he's damn good, and he is the most heroic, triumphantly returning from exile, cutting through a.massive swath of nids to slay their leader who could not be harmed by mortal weapons. Single handedly saved iyanden.

Yriel had some bad luck with table top representation, but he is an absolute beast by the fluff.

I'd bet he'd give gazzy a run for his money in single combat, due to his agility and the devestating nature of the spear of twilight, he's probably a better strategist than huron blackheart and creed.

The only reason yriel hasn't killed any avatars is because their on the same team

That said, where is skulltaker. Khorne's champs and princes deserve more mention

The greatest warrior is Khorne.

The best model? Tyranid Heirophant.

Reecius wrote:The greatest warrior is Khorne.

The best model? Tyranid Heirophant.

agree with khorne but disagree with the nidly beast. best model is Angron

Calgar for the win!

Sledgio wrote:Kharn is not worthy of being on the list, Abaddon would beast him any day!!

Then why put Lucius on there?

I voted for the Avatar of Khaine as it is battle and war incarnate

Gotta be Grimnar, hes responsible for winning the real armageddon war (chaos trumps orcs every time IMO) and he led the defense against the 13th black crusade and during these fights he was in the thick of it like a true son of fenris. Its hard to deny SW excellence in close combat and all the SW look at LG and say "damn that guys badass" and if psycho blackmane (IMO the imperiums answer to kharn) thinks your badass then your probably pretty badass.

Oh and since hes not on the list but i think he probably owns id have to say Bulveye, hes had 10000 years in the warp, conquered the wulfen in himself, grown to 11 foot tall and then kicks chaos's comparitively bald arses on their own turf.

Hes older and more killy than anyone in the imperium and he hes a friggin wulfen, dont act like your not impressed lol His axe is awesome too.