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sourclams wrote:Oh, good, GW found a way to botch the release of a new army that should literally sell itself, just by sitting on the shelves looking shiny. Let's see that share price stagger towards 400, Kirby!

Calm yourself. Black Boxes NEVER include all the models in a new range. I got the spider and savage orcs for the last one. They skipped putting in the savage boar boyz.

mikhaila wrote:

sourclams wrote:Oh, good, GW found a way to botch the release of a new army that should literally sell itself, just by sitting on the shelves looking shiny. Let's see that share price stagger towards 400, Kirby!

Calm yourself. Black Boxes NEVER include all the models in a new range. I got the spider and savage orcs for the last one. They skipped putting in the savage boar boyz.

Blimey, that was lucky. I thought Dakka was gonna have a Failseer moment then. Well held mikhaila

TBH the PA GKs I'm not too bothered about as they are just padding. It's the Dreadknight and the Termies that are going to be the standouts, for me anyway. The codex will be an interesting read, and I look forward to the threads crying about some imber/broken/lolz units that some will inevitably over-react to Great news that our trime of waiting is so nearly over.

I'm pumped to see the final rules for Codex: Coteaz and Friends.

You know, no matter how exited I try to be for Grey Knights, GW's complete lack of hype or advertising has really stopped me from caring. I have a Raging Heroes Manticore on the way and I've yet to see anything that would make me want to set money aside for the GKs. And considering that the Inquisition is my favourite faction in 40k, that's kind of a big deal.

I'm looking forward to seeing the new models. If i could afford to start a new army, it woudl probably be Gk. As it is i am savign my pennies for Necrons later in the year.

Te codex will be a very interestign read though.

Not sure if these are accurate or not since i have seen some Jokaero jokes been posted around

brb

Erm - I would imagine you should take those down before the mods gather in vengeful flocks...

Doh, missed it. what was it?

Fafnir wrote:You know, no matter how exited I try to be for Grey Knights, GW's complete lack of hype or advertising has really stopped me from caring. I have a Raging Heroes Manticore on the way and I've yet to see anything that would make me want to set money aside for the GKs. And considering that the Inquisition is my favourite faction in 40k, that's kind of a big deal.

And thank God you have shared these feelings with us only about 300 times this past month

Captain Jack wrote:
TBH the PA GKs I'm not too bothered about as they are just padding. It's the Dreadknight and the Termies that are going to be the standouts, for me anyway. The codex will be an interesting read, and I look forward to the threads crying about some imber/broken/lolz units that some will inevitably over-react to Great news that our trime of waiting is so nearly over.

Actually I feel the opposite about the PAGK. I've seen the last version of the TAGK's, and they were gorgeous (I own 10 for my SM army). I have every confidence that the next batch of them will be just as sharp. My curiousity lies with how they will redo the troops choices in plastic and what those sprues look like (since they may get used as conversion fodder for pre-existing armies). As a modeler, the PAGK are the more intriguing choice.

The Dread Knight, now... since we never got a clear pic, NATURALLY that is big news. Will be glad to see it, and especially the sprues. Unfortunately my LGS won't be opening those boxes for that purpose. He usually just slaps a price sticker on them.

Redemption wrote:

Earthbeard wrote:Any idea of contents? or Am I getting ahead of myself

The contents seem to be the GK Terminators, the Dreadknight and the codex. Advance Orders will propably be up next wednesday.

Cheers.

TBD wrote:

Fafnir wrote:You know, no matter how exited I try to be for Grey Knights, GW's complete lack of hype or advertising has really stopped me from caring. I have a Raging Heroes Manticore on the way and I've yet to see anything that would make me want to set money aside for the GKs. And considering that the Inquisition is my favourite faction in 40k, that's kind of a big deal.

And thank God you have shared these feelings with us only about 300 times this past month

Hilarious, thanks TBD! Yeah, the lack of advertising to this point somehow casts a pall on the release. Huh?. Amazing and I don't think anyone else would find that analogy to be a big deal, except maybe a psychologist.

Nagashek wrote:Actually I feel the opposite about the PAGK. I've seen the last version of the TAGK's, and they were gorgeous (I own 10 for my SM army). I have every confidence that the next batch of them will be just as sharp. My curiousity lies with how they will redo the troops choices in plastic and what those sprues look like (since they may get used as conversion fodder for pre-existing armies). As a modeler, the PAGK are the more intriguing choice.

The Dread Knight, now... since we never got a clear pic, NATURALLY that is big news. Will be glad to see it, and especially the sprues. Unfortunately my LGS won't be opening those boxes for that purpose. He usually just slaps a price sticker on them.

agreed on the look of the GKT. they were gorgeous models when they came out and the first biggee sized terminators to hit the market (and the first on 40mm bases). as a side note, your GKT will actually be troops according to the rumors with the new codex.

Been in to my local GW today (manchester) and they said they will have the preview stuff Friday upcoming 8D

Can't wait, think I'll pop in on my lunch break and have a peek at the new codex. They're also doing a two week long GK versus Daemons event so I'll look forward to getting down there and enjoying games against my preferred enemy XD

It'll probably be my first and only chance to actually play against Daemons but it does beg the question, would it be embarrassing to lose to Daemons with GK?

I've been in three stores in the past week (Peterborough, Kingston and Staines) and all three have said the black box preview arrives April 2nd.

Miraclefish wrote:I've been in three stores in the past week (Peterborough, Kingston and Staines) and all three have said the black box preview arrives April 2nd.

April 2nd is from what I've been told, the release date.

Blackboxes pretty much always arrive 3-4 weeks prior to the release date. Having it come in April would be pretty out of the ordinary.

Yeah, I agree with the logic there, all I know is what the blueshirts have been passing on...

Concerning the standard Grey Knights. Of course will they be plastic. But a Black Box is no batallion box with over 100$ of models in it.
The Black Box will come next week.

As many may have guessed, the Dreadknight will fit on an oval base.
And if GW's Dreadknight is as bad as feared, then some small miniature company will certainly be fast to present a large "Knight walker" to fill the need. And I am really loking forward to those alternative models.

So far as everyone knows, the new plastic GKT are going to be exact matches of the metal ones in appearance, and simply recasts (or a more technical approximation thereof) of the old metal ones, right?

So I should probably just get to painting those?, which are already primed black in my basement?

Ouze wrote:So far as everyone knows, the new plastic GKT are going to be exact matches of the metal ones in appearance, and simply recasts (or a more technical approximation thereof) of the old metal ones, right?

Yeah, that's what GW usually does with 8 year old sculpts: Just scan them for a plastic release

Kroothawk wrote:

Ouze wrote:So far as everyone knows, the new plastic GKT are going to be exact matches of the metal ones in appearance, and simply recasts (or a more technical approximation thereof) of the old metal ones, right?

Yeah, that's what GW usually does with 8 year old sculpts: Just scan them for a plastic release

Whether or not the new plastics are just exact replicas of the metals, if I were you (assuming you're planning on a GK army) I would paint up those guys, because they're pretty nice models, have aged well, and don't have too many difficult fiddly bits to break off, etc. In short, one of GW's better metal kits.

All that said, I much prefer plastic to metal. But if you're got the guys, you can get a jump-start on your army while waiting for the new releases.

Looking forward to the PAGK and TAGK's. Simply for a range of new parts to be chopped up and inducted into a certain 1st company of BA's

I am not judging the dread knight until I see a decent picture of it, admittedly the first thing that came to mind was "transformers!" but then the pic is just blurry and probably obscures most of the details.

All in all, next week can't come sooner!

Of course, if this Black Box release is anything like the Orc & Goblin one, all I'll be seeing is one random page of the Codex until release week...

The Codex is included in the Black Box.

I can't wait to get my hands on some Grey Knight Terminator bits.

Ouze wrote:So far as everyone knows, the new plastic GKT are going to be exact matches of the metal ones in appearance, and simply recasts (or a more technical approximation thereof) of the old metal ones, right?

So I should probably just get to painting those?, which are already primed black in my basement?

In case you can't detect Kroothawk's sarcasm in response to this, the answer is a resounding no. The leaked super-fuzzy pictures show them having a somewhat different silhouette altogether.

Fafnir wrote:You know, no matter how exited I try to be for Grey Knights, GW's complete lack of hype or advertising has really stopped me from caring. I have a Raging Heroes Manticore on the way and I've yet to see anything that would make me want to set money aside for the GKs. And considering that the Inquisition is my favourite faction in 40k, that's kind of a big deal.

I'd have to agree with you. I undrestand that they want people to make more educated guesses and not jump to conclusions about models or the army itself. I do however fear that it does not help them sell things though. I lost almost all intrest recently, but it is growing again. To get people pumped about what they are going to sell, they need to let official pictures out a bit early, perhaps 2 months at least.

I do understand that kroothawk is pretty well informed on these sorts of subjects (god knows how ) but DK on an oval base? Really?

I dont like that at all :( massive disadvantage and I was under the impression the DK was relatively small (compared to say, a trygon) anyway. If its as small as a Matrix APU it will be just nice, but if its a cartoonishly huge suit that you would expect to see in some kids show where the driver more or less sits in its chest, I will be very disappointed.

So far, judging by the pictures I actually liked the DK, but on an oval base, this makes me cry

Shame theres no Inquisitorial Warband Henchmen stuff in it; as they are what I'm most excited for. Oh well; I'll just check out the Codex and see how good or bad they did the Inquisition side.

Need to get me some Orangutangs for my Ordo Xenos army and plenty of Warriors for my Ordo Hereticus Army. My Inq. Stormtroopers can be used in my Ordo Malleus army.

Of course, if this Black Box release is anything like the Orc & Goblin one, all I'll be seeing is one random page of the Codex until release week...

The Orcs And Goblins Black Box had a full copy of the Army Book in it. Never has GW put a single sample page of a book in a Black Box. Where do people on this forum come up with this stuff? (that's rhetorical, please don't answer, I don't really want to know as the answer is likely scary, protracted and unnecessarily nerd-angry).