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Frazzled's advice, the same he gave The Boy:
You acted like a mangina. Snap out of it and act like a man.
Or as the immortal bard once said:
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Hey man, something to remember for life: Sometimes, people (especially women between the ages of 12-21) just break. The person you knew yesterday may or may not be the person you know today. Happened with my (ex)fiance when she was 23. It's just not a stable age. It sounds like she has had to live with a certain amount of drama/instability as well, especially if she's never known her mom until that late in life. That can kind of mar a person sometimes.
In the long run, you're better off. Toughen up buttercup.
The girl is a user and a train wreck, its nice you want to help her and all but eventually you become the chump and just get stepped on, so take it as a lesson, because life has alot more of these things waiting for you...
Life Sucks....Get a helmet!
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There are three possiblities here:
1) everything is exactly as you wrote, and she has a user personality and will do anything to avoid accountability.
2) You've actually somehow hurt her, and she wants to keep you out of her life because of that, or
3) Some combination
Either way, if you want to be a friend, than let her go, and just accept that maybe there are parts of her that you don't understand. Give her space and time, and maybe you'll be back in her life someday.
And if you want to be vindicitive, you do the exact same thing except you block her out too.
To paraphrase Swingers: "there's nothing you can do to make her come back. There are only things you can do to make her not come back."
Polonius wrote:There are three possiblities here:
1) everything is exactly as you wrote, and she has a user personality and will do anything to avoid accountability.
2) You've actually somehow hurt her, and she wants to keep you out of her life because of that, or
3) Some combination
or another far more likely option:
4) Tertiary figure in woman's life has a grossly inflated sense of his importance to her. Deludes self into thinking his actions with regard to her are far more relevant and meaningful than they are. Gets upset when dealing with the real issues in her life somehow takes precedence over making sure his White Knight fantasy gets the attention his ego demands.
My advice to the OP? Take a brutally honest and rational look at what was in this person's life and where that would actually put you in her life. Then use that inormation to give yourself perspective and not spend another five years living in a fantasy about being relevant. The truth just hurts sometimes. Use the experience to gain perspective and see your real place in the future.
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Gitkikka wrote:It is too late to shoehorn a "Cool story, bro." here?
I hate being late to the pity parties...
These stories are always rough, because for the teller, it's a tragic tale of unexpected woe. For everybody else, it's a melodrama (if not outright comedy) wherein the inevitiable happens.
Polonius wrote:There are three possiblities here:
1) everything is exactly as you wrote, and she has a user personality and will do anything to avoid accountability.
2) You've actually somehow hurt her, and she wants to keep you out of her life because of that, or
3) Some combination
or another far more likely option:
4) Tertiary figure in woman's life has a grossly inflated sense of his importance to her. Deludes self into thinking his actions with regard to her are far more relevant and meaningful than they are. Gets upset when dealing the real issues in her life somehow takes precedence over making sure his White Knight fantasy gets the attention his ego demands.
My advice to the OP? Take a brutally honest and rational look at what was in this person's life and where that would actually put you in her life. Then use to give yourself perspective and not spend another five years living in a fantasy about being relevant. The truth just hurts sometimes. Use the experience to gain perspective and see your real place in the future.
Wow thats as bitter as something I would say. Salute!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Polonius wrote:There are three possiblities here:
1) everything is exactly as you wrote, and she has a user personality and will do anything to avoid accountability.
2) You've actually somehow hurt her, and she wants to keep you out of her life because of that, or
3) Some combination
or another far more likely option:
4) Tertiary figure in woman's life has a grossly inflated sense of his importance to her. Deludes self into thinking his actions with regard to her are far more relevant and meaningful than they are. Gets upset when dealing with the real issues in her life somehow takes precedence over making sure his White Knight fantasy gets the attention his ego demands.
My advice to the OP? Take a brutally honest and rational look at what was in this person's life and where that would actually put you in her life. Then use to give yourself perspective and not spend another five years living in a fantasy about being relevant. The truth just hurts sometimes. Use the experience to gain perspective and see your real place in the future.
That's brutal, but actually really likely.
I mean, when I read the OP, it cncluded a line that is always the kiss of death: "I treated her so well, how could she do this to me?" (or soemthing like it)
How you treat another party has little value in predicting the future of a relationship. Rather, how they respond to you, and how they treat you, is the best predicitor of how they will treat you in the future.
I mean, if I told you about this restauratn I really like, and how I tip really well but always get terrible service, would anybody be surprised if I keep getting bad service?
Personal relationships aren't that much different.
But seriously, forget this chick mate, friends are supposed to be there for you as much as you are for them. Either that or you accept that you don't get the same thing in return from the beginning.
Forget her, buy another army and move on, I've had lots of best friends over the years and the older I get the more I realise that friendships arent always permenant.
Take a valuable lesson about giving too much of yourself away from this friendship and use that lesson to enrich your own, or someones life in the future.
Well first it was Matt in like 8th grade and they dated till Sophomore year. Then they broke up and she dated Josh for a short while, then she kept breaking up with one of them and going out with the other over and over again. Then she gave up on Matt and dropped out of high school. She then met Justin and they dated for a few years. She got back in high school and got a GED. Then they broke up for a few days and she had sex with Josh in that time frame. Then she got back with Justin. Then she broke up with Justin, then she went out with Josh again and ran away with him to Illinois. Now she broke up with Josh and is back with Justin.
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I blame soaps for hoodwinking youngsters into thinking this sort of stuff is the norm.
Back in the day, Jack met Jill in Kindergarten, they got married had kids, left school and lived happily ever after till they both died in each others' arm still in love aged 98.
But now, you have had to be triple timing your loved one before starting grade school.
I blame soaps for hoodwinking youngsters into thinking this sort of stuff is the norm.
Back in the day, Jack met Jill in Kindergarten, they got married had kids, left school and lived happily ever after till they both died in each others' arm still in love aged 98.
But now, you have had to be triple timing your loved one before starting grade school.
That's the most absurd claim I've ever heard.
What sort of child 12 or under watches a soap opera?
The girl in my story isn't a child, nor was she when she started dating, and she's not the kind of person to watch soap operas, or much of anything on TV for that matter.
Childhood crush /=/ Romance. And are you implying they got married while they were still in high school? What the feth?
Most people don't live to be 98, and most people who do had their spouse die atleast 10 years before them.
And I'm not going to comment on that pedophile thing how you think that children 12 or under are even aware of what a relationship is.
But seriously, forget this chick mate, friends are supposed to be there for you as much as you are for them. Either that or you accept that you don't get the same thing in return from the beginning.
Forget her, buy another army and move on, I've had lots of best friends over the years and the older I get the more I realise that friendships arent always permenant.
Take a valuable lesson about giving too much of yourself away from this friendship and use that lesson to enrich your own, or someones life in the future.
Well first it was Matt in like 8th grade and they dated till Sophomore year. Then they broke up and she dated Josh for a short while, then she kept breaking up with one of them and going out with the other over and over again. Then she gave up on Matt and dropped out of high school. She then met Justin and they dated for a few years. She got back in high school and got a GED. Then they broke up for a few days and she had sex with Josh in that time frame. Then she got back with Justin. Then she broke up with Justin, then she went out with Josh again and ran away with him to Illinois. Now she broke up with Josh and is back with Justin.
Sounds like a regular Loser Triumvirate.It would be best if none of them breed. Sadly, I don't think that will happen.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
I blame soaps for hoodwinking youngsters into thinking this sort of stuff is the norm.
Back in the day, Jack met Jill in Kindergarten, they got married had kids, left school and lived happily ever after till they both died in each others' arm still in love aged 98.
But now, you have had to be triple timing your loved one before starting grade school.
That's the most absurd claim I've ever heard.
What sort of child 12 or under watches a soap opera?
The girl in my story isn't a child, nor was she when she started dating, and she's not the kind of person to watch soap operas, or much of anything on TV for that matter.
Childhood crush /=/ Romance. And are you implying they got married while they were still in high school? What the feth?
Most people don't live to be 98, and most people who do had their spouse die atleast 10 years before them.
And I'm not going to comment on that pedophile thing how you think that children 12 or under are even aware of what a relationship is.
I guess you had your sarcasm detection chip removed then...
For that matter what sort of adult or teenager watches soap operas? Excluding senior citizens.
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filbert wrote:
samusaran253 wrote:
Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Soaps
I blame soaps for hoodwinking youngsters into thinking this sort of stuff is the norm.
Back in the day, Jack met Jill in Kindergarten, they got married had kids, left school and lived happily ever after till they both died in each others' arm still in love aged 98.
But now, you have had to be triple timing your loved one before starting grade school.
That's the most absurd claim I've ever heard.
What sort of child 12 or under watches a soap opera?
The girl in my story isn't a child, nor was she when she started dating, and she's not the kind of person to watch soap operas, or much of anything on TV for that matter.
Childhood crush /=/ Romance. And are you implying they got married while they were still in high school? What the feth?
Most people don't live to be 98, and most people who do had their spouse die atleast 10 years before them.
And I'm not going to comment on that pedophile thing how you think that children 12 or under are even aware of what a relationship is.
I guess you had your sarcasm detection chip removed then...
No, it just malfunctions from time to time.
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samusaran253 wrote:The girl in my story isn't a child, nor was she when she started dating, and she's not the kind of person to watch soap operas, or much of anything on TV for that matter.
Are we now pretending that 13-year-olds aren't children?
samusaran253 wrote:The girl in my story isn't a child, nor was she when she started dating, and she's not the kind of person to watch soap operas, or much of anything on TV for that matter.
Are we now pretending that 13-year-olds aren't children?
When did this start?
They aren't. They're teenagers. You'd be pretty hardpressed to try and prove that thirTEEN isn't a teen.
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Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:You can't just lump all teen years together mate.
13 is a long way from being the same as 19
The former is still a child. It's for you to prove that the age is adult. None of the behaviour you describe remotely matches up to maturity.
12 and under = child
13-16 = Child who eats everything in the house
17-19 = Child who eats everything in the house and tellls me I just don't understand yet won't get the hell out.
20-26 = Child who better have gotten the hell out already Fly little bird fly!
Corrected your typo.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!