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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/23 18:15:32
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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All of which you explained is a norm for stores. Besides the kid kicking you. You should invest in some noise reducing headphones, keeps out unwanted conversations and you can listen to your music while painting. But, really trying to keep the store quiet and peaceful? You should paint at home if that's what you want. Also, when the bunker opens what are you going to do about the cheering and yelling of WAAAAGH from the players? Or even the "so you want to checkout this... or how about this... did you want to buy those today." from the employees?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/23 18:29:20
Subject: Re:Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Seriously guys, I know exactly what the OP is on about, as it goes on quite frequently in my local too. We're talking loud and belligerent individuals who make Brian Blessed sound like a wee little mouse. They are as annoying as hell and thew volume just increases exponentially, when one gets louder the other has to get louder than them. And so forth....
People having conversations about random stuff in the store is fine, I do it all the time. People doing the "Fergie hairdryer" for 3 hours straight is not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/23 18:37:09
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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It's a nerdy hobby usually populated by nice mild mannered nerds like me (the internet just brings out the worst in me, i swear). Other social outcasts can sometimes be drawn to it as a new avenue to make friends, some of these people will indeed be ill mannered or not 'potty trained' when it comes to social interactions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/23 19:16:50
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Hückleberry wrote:I see it too often at some stores I've been to where the parents drop the kid off and let the store babysit for the day.
Someone did that once at the video game store I was managing at the time. The parents were incensed when they showed up three hours later to pick their child up and the child wasn't there. Running to the counter in a panic, they asked where their child was. 'I called mall security fifteen minutes after you left and had them pick him up. They're located just off the center courtyard, next to the Abercrombie store.'
I did not allow unattended children in my store, ever. The only reason they got away with leaving the kid in the first place was I was too busy with another customer at the time to stop and tell them they couldn't leave their child there. I was telling people that about once a week. Got old real fast, and there were a few complaints sent to Corporate because of it, but I'm not a babysitter.
My FLGS is pretty good. We occasionally get rubberneckers around the gaming tables, but they're pretty well-behaved. We keep an eye on them, and if we see someone reaching for a model we tell them 'Please ask first, if you would.' The children have been kept in appropriate check; some of the regulars have children who freely wander about the store, because they know as long as they stay well-behaved they can continue to wander the store freely. (They also know who tends to have snacks and who will give them a little something if they ask politely. Vultures, I tell you, the lot of them ... Sure kid, you can have a couple chips. Like my new tank?)
There are a couple of THOSE GUYS that roam the store occasionally. We know who they are, we generally avoid them as possible, and we generally make it clear through attitude, body language, and selective wording that those people aren't welcome in this particular area, now why don't you go upstairs and hang out with the Magic folks? Yeah, off you go.
... It helps that a couple of the 40k guys are members of the local college football team, and built like Space Marine recruits. <.<
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/24 01:23:09
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Rifleman Grey Knight Venerable Dreadnought
Realm of Hobby
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comrade_nikolai wrote:BrassScorpion wrote:4) Two, yes two different adult customers who talked continuously for several hours while in the store on two different days. Neither of these guys ever stopped talking for more than a few seconds in the space of 2 to 3 hours. Neither of these guys brought any models to work on or game with, they just talked incessantly for hours. Many people in the store, including the manager in one case were ready to pull their own heads off after a while just to end the pain.
aww man, people coming into the store and talking about the hobby! That's the worst thing about warhammer; if it was up to me everything about the hobby would be conducted in the strictest silence!
Comprehension of OP fail.
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 MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid  Since i avoid bushlands that is
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/24 02:13:22
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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AvatarForm wrote:comrade_nikolai wrote:BrassScorpion wrote:4) Two, yes two different adult customers who talked continuously for several hours while in the store on two different days. Neither of these guys ever stopped talking for more than a few seconds in the space of 2 to 3 hours. Neither of these guys brought any models to work on or game with, they just talked incessantly for hours. Many people in the store, including the manager in one case were ready to pull their own heads off after a while just to end the pain.
aww man, people coming into the store and talking about the hobby! That's the worst thing about warhammer; if it was up to me everything about the hobby would be conducted in the strictest silence!
Comprehension of OP fail.
The OP didn't specify in his first comment what they were talking about so he had every right to assume with the information given to him.
Back on topic-
I've been an unattended kid a gaming store but I think I've always been well behaved. Never had guys too horrible. Had one kid who I didn't think even had an army who would walk around and generally annoy people. I had my kill pile of necrons (just piled, some on top of each other) and would comment like, " Lol, look at those guys look gay lololololol". I can easily be imature, but I wouldn't unless I was strictly around my friends and we were all in the mood. But I have to hand it to the red shirts in my area, they do a pretty good job at dealing with TFGs and being generally friendly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/24 03:16:17
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Rifleman Grey Knight Venerable Dreadnought
Realm of Hobby
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Mewiththeface wrote:AvatarForm wrote:comrade_nikolai wrote:BrassScorpion wrote:4) Two, yes two different adult customers who talked continuously for several hours while in the store on two different days. Neither of these guys ever stopped talking for more than a few seconds in the space of 2 to 3 hours. Neither of these guys brought any models to work on or game with, they just talked incessantly for hours. Many people in the store, including the manager in one case were ready to pull their own heads off after a while just to end the pain.
aww man, people coming into the store and talking about the hobby! That's the worst thing about warhammer; if it was up to me everything about the hobby would be conducted in the strictest silence!
Comprehension of OP fail.
The OP didn't specify in his first comment what they were talking about so he had every right to assume with the information given to him.
Back on topic-
I've been an unattended kid a gaming store but I think I've always been well behaved. Never had guys too horrible. Had one kid who I didn't think even had an army who would walk around and generally annoy people. I had my kill pile of necrons (just piled, some on top of each other) and would comment like, " Lol, look at those guys look gay lololololol". I can easily be imature, but I wouldn't unless I was strictly around my friends and we were all in the mood. But I have to hand it to the red shirts in my area, they do a pretty good job at dealing with TFGs and being generally friendly.
As comprehended by others in this thread also, the annoyance is the incessant talking... not the topic. Even if it were about the Hobby, incessant chatter as background noise is annoying.
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We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid  Since i avoid bushlands that is
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/24 04:07:42
Subject: Re:Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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The manager at my old FLGS used to tell stories of a guy in full blood/Khorne/Skull tatts who would come in and scream "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!" at the top of his lungs and scare the younger crowd whilst playing with his Chaos army
-Back on subject, I do know what you're talking about and I agree with some of the other posters. When I was brought into this hobby the older guys at my store took me under their wing, along with the red shirt that worked at the store and helped me with not only my modeling skills, but basic behavior and stuff like that. I've always been well behaved, but that older generation teaching younger generation is almost completely lost. On top of that it can be fostered if the manager/employees let it persist, many times kids just don't know they're bugging anyone and a simple stfu will suffice. If all of this happened at the same hobby store and persisted I would probably swap stores to a more "chill" locale.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/24 04:58:12
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
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Man, my store is so lenient compared to you guys.
we have HEAPS of kids, I mean like 60 to 75% of the customers are kids. Who steal minis, push the tables (one of my resins broke from them pushing the tables) and run around the store (someone broke a superheavy from tripping)
Our store has eavy metal up loud, and the painting station is one of the most gacked up I have seen. We have parents dropping in children every day. Its so annoying.
So I actually sympathise with the OP, but again if you choose to go into a public store, some things like that will inevitably happen. It is your choice whether to make a huge deal of it or not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/24 06:46:06
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Rifleman Grey Knight Venerable Dreadnought
Realm of Hobby
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Doctadeth wrote:Man, my store is so lenient compared to you guys.
we have HEAPS of kids, I mean like 60 to 75% of the customers are kids. Who steal minis, push the tables (one of my resins broke from them pushing the tables) and run around the store (someone broke a superheavy from tripping)
Our store has eavy metal up loud, and the painting station is one of the most gacked up I have seen. We have parents dropping in children every day. Its so annoying.
So I actually sympathise with the OP, but again if you choose to go into a public store, some things like that will inevitably happen. It is your choice whether to make a huge deal of it or not.
Im thinking the problem rests with the Parents and Manager of the FLGS...
Perhaps have a word with the sotre manager... if all else fails, taze any kid who ouches your minis.
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We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid  Since i avoid bushlands that is
But we're not that bad... are we?  |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/24 08:51:39
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Geek kids: above-average intelligence; below-average social skills.
The OP complains that he didn't encounter this behaviour amongst the historical wargaming crowd he used to run with, but I can assure you that this sort of erratic behaviour is just as common in that community as it is in the SF/fantasy wargaming community (and the two intersect far more often than you might expect).
The main difference is that the latter tends to be the one that appeals more to children and young teenagers than the former. As a result, there are more young people in the community who have never been in an adult community before.
I've seen through numerous clubs, stores and groups how involvement with miniatures wargaming helps youngsters in all sorts of ways, but the learning process is a gradual thing. Meeting their behaviour with anger and aggression is not going to show them a better way but simply teach them that older gamers are angry and aggressive.
Yes, if you're an adult gamer, it's annoying to have your games or painting interrupted by younger gamers. But you have the benefit of your own place and your own income and the freedom to play at numerous venues (if you make a mature effort to find them). Kids, generally, don't and the store is their place to paint and play and no other place is realistically available to many of them.
If you're going to the store, then, why not go with a mind to playing a game with a younger player, or giving some encouragement to a younger painter?
Of course, if it's adults who're giving you the earache (or worse), then why not encourage them to check out the local club (if there is one - if not, try starting one) and remove their irritating chatter from your space. However, remember that some adults are still kids in many ways - those with mental or social disorders need the same help as young gamers to help them access the hobby at their level.
Finally, there's no denying that some people are just idiots and, unfortunately, so are some gamers. These tend to be fairly rare and you can usually get around them or ignore them and wait for a nice person to come along (we're much more common, fortunately).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/24 14:47:30
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Every store has it's scrotes. It's a face of life. Like arseholes determined to sit right at the bar, even on the busiest of nights, reducing the service space to perhaps a foot, and then muttering an scowling when (due to their own thoughtless positioning) you have to reach between them to pay and get your pint.
As a former GW Blueshirt (and come to think of it Red and Black shirt. I'm like my own GW based Starfleet crew) I'm pretty good at dealing with it. In particular, people bumping you when you're painting is a pain, but remember, a lot of these peeps are kids, fairly giddy at their new hobby. Doesn't take much to have a polite but firm word, explaining that it's a bit rude to bump people. Engage them in conversation. Convert them from oiks to gamers. Sure, there are those who no amount of cajoling wiill stopthem from being oiks, but c'est la vie!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/24 15:14:16
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Laughing Man wrote:BrassScorpion wrote:In general, it is bad social form to talk for 3 hours continuously about anything, hobby or otherwise, without giving people some respite.
I usually find that's called a decent conversation.
I know completely what the OP means though. I've worked in a store, and I think every store has at least 1 or 2 'residents' who come in and just talk incessantly. The point is that most of the time, they aren't interested at all in conversation, they simply talk at you. And sadly, because you are working for the company, you have to stand there and endure it. The first time I wondered why the manager did a road runner-style dash to the store room when a 'resident' came in, an hour later when I was still being informed about an orc army that had been entirely converted from playmobil, I knew why.
One of the other chaps in the store used to just ignore them and walk off, pretend to be doing something etc., although sadly I could never bring myself to be impolite (even though I prayed for God to save me! )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/24 15:40:33
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Pacific wrote: (even though I prayed for God to save me! ) 
The Emperor Protects
Back on topic. Fortunately I don't think we have much of a problem in my store. sure you get some nerdy kids come in who make lame jokes, but that's no worse than me. as I'm essentially a bigger nerdy kid with lame jokes
and whenever I see a kid doing something he shouldn't then we just turn to him and nicely talk to him "please pick up my freshly painted orks by the base if you have to, smears don't look good" and the like.
I imagine I have been guilty of such indiscretions before, but bing old enough to buy your fellow gamers a pint afterwards eases all tensions
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/25 08:40:34
Subject: Re:Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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The stores I go are pretty easy going and I always like some background chatter, the monastery silence is never good. The only thing that made me spazz out was when someone picked up my Elysian sniper by the barrel of the gun which proceeded to snap. Yeah, not our finest moment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/25 10:17:46
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Mr Mystery wrote:Every store has it's scrotes. It's a face of life.Like arseholes determined to sit right at the bar, even on the busiest of nights, reducing the service space to perhaps a foot, and then muttering an scowling when (due to their own thoughtless positioning) you have to reach between them to pay and get your pint.
QFT. And its just as annoying from the other side of the bar, when you're trying to serve customers who want to hand over their hard-earned cash, and the bar-space is clogged with gonks. Also makes it difficult to work out who actually wants serving, thus making for the poor quiet people tucked in the back who spend a lot of time going thirsty..which in turn means a grumpy landlord wanting to know why people aren't getting served..not to mention grumpy punters who get fractious and rude at the staff and other drinkers.
And this translates back into a store setting as well. Shop service often consists of two extremes...On one hand there is the frightening enthusiasm from some redshirt who wont go away and tries to sell you anything he can see, hobby-related or not, and on the other hand it requires flags, flares and brute force to get the attention of anyone at all. In very many cases, the reason one can't get served is because the staff member is stuck behind some foul-smelling foghorn or a shower of gossiping regs and brawling children. At least in a bar the staff have the legal right to remove people causing a problem. Licensing law is a bit more clear cut about smelly loud arseholes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/25 11:39:29
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Mewiththeface wrote:[I've been an unattended kid a gaming store but I think I've always been well behaved.
Candroth wrote:
Hückleberry wrote:I see it too often at some stores I've been to where the parents drop the kid off and let the store babysit for the day.
Someone did that once at the video game store I was managing at the time. The parents were incensed when they showed up three hours later to pick their child up and the child wasn't there. Running to the counter in a panic, they asked where their child was. 'I called mall security fifteen minutes after you left and had them pick him up. They're located just off the center courtyard, next to the Abercrombie store.'
I did not allow unattended children in my store, ever.
Doctadeth wrote:we have HEAPS of kids, I mean like 60 to 75% of the customers are kids. Who steal minis, push the tables (one of my resins broke from them pushing the tables) and run around the store (someone broke a superheavy from tripping)
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"The Kids" get's thrown around alot, but it's not really a helpfull term in this kind of discussion.
It might be worthwhile for the conversation to define what age we're talking about when we say kids, especially when it's relating to children left by their parents.
Are we talking about:
-Young teens 13-14 who might be annoying, but are old enough to hopefully self regulate when guided by adults.
-Pre-teens 10-12 who are in that grey area where the parents feel fine leaving them alone, but they're really not always ready to self-regulate in an adult/young-adult environment.
-Even younger under 10 year olds whose parents are abusing retaliers by treating them like babysitters, and possibly abusing their kids through what could be construed as child abandonment.
By the way, I love the idea of calling mall security. There's no reason you should have to play babysitter for someone's kids. Kidnapping still happens, and what kind of parent leaves their child (I'm assuming it's a young child here) alone in a mall?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/25 18:18:50
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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I got pegged with an empty soda bottle once. Deliberately thrown at me as hard as the thrower could manage. I'm an adult going on 30... The thrower, a 14 yr old middle school kid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/25 18:18:50
Subject: Re:Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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I work for a FLGS and let me tell you... the horrors.... Some things are just too terrible to not block from your memory.
That aside as an employee let me say TELL US when something is going on. We can't do anything about it if we don't know it's going on. Our gaming space is separated from our retail section so we don't know whats going on over there unless we get told. If some kid ran around and broke your stuff you tell us and that kid will be out of there so fast it'll get the emperor off his throne. When i've played there we haven't had any issues with kids or stealing but i promise that if i, or any coworker i have, heard about something like that we'd handle it. I've banned kids from our store before and i'll do it again. Most of the time we've been lucky and when we ban kids from the store the parents make them call and apologize for their actions.
Also, i think that i can trump pretty much everything that's been said so far. We have a regular who, from what i've been told, has PTSD or something along those lines. He has shrapnel scars across his body and has a few quirks. In Wisconsin we have open carry laws. You can not conceal carry but if you simply have your pistol holstered and visible you can legally take it with you pretty much anywhere. He was losing to his opponent, who has never won a tourney and looses 3 out of 4 games but keeps on trying bless his heart, when he pulled his 1911 pistol on his opponent and threatened to kill him. He was quickly kicked the hell out and we had a long talking with the person who the gun was pulled on. He said he didn't feel threatened and knew the guy wasn't all there and didn't mean it. The person apologized profusely and came back many months later. Since then he's been fine and we've had no issues. He still carries his gun but if anyone asks him to he puts it in his car. He's a nice guy, he just went through hell in Afghanistan.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/25 18:33:50
Subject: Re:Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Tabo wrote: Also, i think that i can trump pretty much everything that's been said so far. We have a regular who, from what i've been told, has PTSD or something along those lines. He has shrapnel scars across his body and has a few quirks. In Wisconsin we have open carry laws. You can not conceal carry but if you simply have your pistol holstered and visible you can legally take it with you pretty much anywhere. He was losing to his opponent, who has never won a tourney and looses 3 out of 4 games but keeps on trying bless his heart, when he pulled his 1911 pistol on his opponent and threatened to kill him. He was quickly kicked the hell out and we had a long talking with the person who the gun was pulled on. He said he didn't feel threatened and knew the guy wasn't all there and didn't mean it. The person apologized profusely and came back many months later. Since then he's been fine and we've had no issues. He still carries his gun but if anyone asks him to he puts it in his car. He's a nice guy, he just went through hell in Afghanistan.
Too much dakka.....
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 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:If you hate this game and hate the company and hate the community so much, go find another game. You're obviously not willing to roll with the punches of a luxury commodity's adaptation to a difficult economy. Whining about stuff won't make things better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/25 18:37:15
Subject: Re:Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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Why are you afraid of dealing with children? Use your Big Boy voice and maintain the pecking order.
1) One kid knee another in the butt and send him crashing into the painting/hobby table.
***That’s funny. Kick them out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)
2) An adult with an obtrusive and obnoxiously loud ring-tone who also made babbling noises while assembling his models. The same loud voiced guy also complained that someone threw their dice at him in a game the day before. Since I've rarely ever seen him in a store where he wasn't either thoughtlessly or deliberately rude to employees, customers or both it's no surprise. Then he actually at one point made disparaging comments about the intelligence of someone else in the store. Amazing.
***That’s funny.. Kick him out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)
3) A kid who gets out of his seat dozens of times, sometimes multiple times in just a few minutes who bumps you every time he gets up and sits down. Even after moving my chair an additional foot away the problem persisted and I also had to ask him to stop kicking me, twice! Needless to say, it's fairly difficult to paint under such circumstances. Of course the parent just dropped him off and left him there with no supervision. Ugh.
***Lean in very quietly. Tell him you have a teenage son who needs gas money really bad, and if Dad’s little oopsy gets near you one more time you’re going to give the teenager $50 to beat him like a redheaded stepchild.
4) Two, yes two different adult customers who talked continuously for several hours while in the store on two different days. Neither of these guys ever stopped talking for more than a few seconds in the space of 2 to 3 hours. Neither of these guys brought any models to work on or game with, they just talked incessantly for hours. Many people in the store, including the manager in one case were ready to pull their own heads off after a while just to end the pain.
***Loudly tell the to shut their mouth holes already. What are they women that have to fill every quiet moment with their vomitous filth?
5) A kid repeatedly cursing at and in front of other kids during a multi-player game.
***That’s funny.. Kick him out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)
Automatically Appended Next Post: Doctadeth wrote:Man, my store is so lenient compared to you guys.
we have HEAPS of kids, I mean like 60 to 75% of the customers are kids. Who steal minis, push the tables (one of my resins broke from them pushing the tables) and run around the store (someone broke a superheavy from tripping)
Our store has eavy metal up loud, and the painting station is one of the most gacked up I have seen. We have parents dropping in children every day. Its so annoying.
So I actually sympathise with the OP, but again if you choose to go into a public store, some things like that will inevitably happen. It is your choice whether to make a huge deal of it or not.
Clearly a amanagement issue. If management is going to run a daycare then they can at least put in a few rules. Having said that, I wouldn't be caught dead in such a place.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/25 18:47:55
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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@Tabo
If your vet gamer has PTSD, that should disqualify him from carrying a firearm due to mental instability. However, check the laws in your state.
Pulling a real gun on someone over gaming means this guy needs his gun taken from him. What if he "accidentally" pulled the trigger, or tripped just as he was pulling the gun. or any other number of things, etc...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/25 18:50:46
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Maxstreel wrote:@Tabo
If your vet gamer has PTSD, that should disqualify him from carrying a firearm due to mental instability. However, check the laws in your state.
Pulling a real gun on someone over gaming means this guy needs his gun taken from him. What if he "accidentally" pulled the trigger, or tripped just as he was pulling the gun. or any other number of things, etc...
I don't think it was ever officially branded on him. He got an honorable discharge and that's that according to what i've heard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/25 18:57:29
Subject: Re:Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Killamop wrote:Tabo wrote: Also, i think that i can trump pretty much everything that's been said so far. We have a regular who, from what i've been told, has PTSD or something along those lines. He has shrapnel scars across his body and has a few quirks. In Wisconsin we have open carry laws. You can not conceal carry but if you simply have your pistol holstered and visible you can legally take it with you pretty much anywhere. He was losing to his opponent, who has never won a tourney and looses 3 out of 4 games but keeps on trying bless his heart, when he pulled his 1911 pistol on his opponent and threatened to kill him. He was quickly kicked the hell out and we had a long talking with the person who the gun was pulled on. He said he didn't feel threatened and knew the guy wasn't all there and didn't mean it. The person apologized profusely and came back many months later. Since then he's been fine and we've had no issues. He still carries his gun but if anyone asks him to he puts it in his car. He's a nice guy, he just went through hell in Afghanistan.
Too much dakka.....
Good to see the time honored tradition of dispute management via firearms is being carried from card games to newer pursuits. That'll liven things up.
PLayer A:"Ha, my Dreadknight instakills your demon prince! HAHAHAHHA"
Player B: Puts Sig 290 on table. "What?"
Player A: " I said Ha your demon prince instakilled my Dreadknight. Well played!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/25 19:02:33
Subject: Re:Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Yeah, true enough about the social skills, but I meran its really freaking annoying when you have kids taking a look at your models without asking, or just stealing them...
Hey, get back here! you little
Example: a 12 year old stealing and running of with my Gaunts ghosts squad, and my cheesebuger...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/25 19:03:05
Subject: Re:Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Frazzled wrote:Killamop wrote:Tabo wrote: Also, i think that i can trump pretty much everything that's been said so far. We have a regular who, from what i've been told, has PTSD or something along those lines. He has shrapnel scars across his body and has a few quirks. In Wisconsin we have open carry laws. You can not conceal carry but if you simply have your pistol holstered and visible you can legally take it with you pretty much anywhere. He was losing to his opponent, who has never won a tourney and looses 3 out of 4 games but keeps on trying bless his heart, when he pulled his 1911 pistol on his opponent and threatened to kill him. He was quickly kicked the hell out and we had a long talking with the person who the gun was pulled on. He said he didn't feel threatened and knew the guy wasn't all there and didn't mean it. The person apologized profusely and came back many months later. Since then he's been fine and we've had no issues. He still carries his gun but if anyone asks him to he puts it in his car. He's a nice guy, he just went through hell in Afghanistan.
Too much dakka.....
Good to see the time honored tradition of dispute management via firearms is being carried from card games to newer pursuits. That'll liven things up.
PLayer A:"Ha, my Dreadknight instakills your demon prince! HAHAHAHHA"
Player B: Puts Sig 290 on table. "What?"
Player A: " I said Ha your demon prince instakilled my Dreadknight. Well played!"
Does this mean that there's a Jack McCall out there waiting for me to turn my back on him while playing a game?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/26 00:58:17
Subject: Re:Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Frazzled wrote:Killamop wrote:Tabo wrote: Also, i think that i can trump pretty much everything that's been said so far. We have a regular who, from what i've been told, has PTSD or something along those lines. He has shrapnel scars across his body and has a few quirks. In Wisconsin we have open carry laws. You can not conceal carry but if you simply have your pistol holstered and visible you can legally take it with you pretty much anywhere. He was losing to his opponent, who has never won a tourney and looses 3 out of 4 games but keeps on trying bless his heart, when he pulled his 1911 pistol on his opponent and threatened to kill him. He was quickly kicked the hell out and we had a long talking with the person who the gun was pulled on. He said he didn't feel threatened and knew the guy wasn't all there and didn't mean it. The person apologized profusely and came back many months later. Since then he's been fine and we've had no issues. He still carries his gun but if anyone asks him to he puts it in his car. He's a nice guy, he just went through hell in Afghanistan.
Too much dakka.....
Good to see the time honored tradition of dispute management via firearms is being carried from card games to newer pursuits. That'll liven things up.
PLayer A:"Ha, my Dreadknight instakills your demon prince! HAHAHAHHA"
Player B: Puts Sig 290 on table. "What?"
Player A: " I said Ha your demon prince instakilled my Dreadknight. Well played!"
hahahah both replies made me rofl.
Useless post of the year award.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/26 01:29:28
Subject: Re:Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Makes me think of the Big Lebowski.. "over the line. Mark it zero!"
Except, that was a comedy. A nervous twitch, or whatever, could have ended the other guys life. You're right that that example trumps all others on here, by orders of magnitude!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/26 01:37:58
Subject: Re:Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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Frazzled wrote:Why are you afraid of dealing with children? Use your Big Boy voice and maintain the pecking order.
1) One kid knee another in the butt and send him crashing into the painting/hobby table.
***That’s funny. Kick them out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)
2) An adult with an obtrusive and obnoxiously loud ring-tone who also made babbling noises while assembling his models. The same loud voiced guy also complained that someone threw their dice at him in a game the day before. Since I've rarely ever seen him in a store where he wasn't either thoughtlessly or deliberately rude to employees, customers or both it's no surprise. Then he actually at one point made disparaging comments about the intelligence of someone else in the store. Amazing.
***That’s funny.. Kick him out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)
3) A kid who gets out of his seat dozens of times, sometimes multiple times in just a few minutes who bumps you every time he gets up and sits down. Even after moving my chair an additional foot away the problem persisted and I also had to ask him to stop kicking me, twice! Needless to say, it's fairly difficult to paint under such circumstances. Of course the parent just dropped him off and left him there with no supervision. Ugh.
***Lean in very quietly. Tell him you have a teenage son who needs gas money really bad, and if Dad’s little oopsy gets near you one more time you’re going to give the teenager $50 to beat him like a redheaded stepchild.
4) Two, yes two different adult customers who talked continuously for several hours while in the store on two different days. Neither of these guys ever stopped talking for more than a few seconds in the space of 2 to 3 hours. Neither of these guys brought any models to work on or game with, they just talked incessantly for hours. Many people in the store, including the manager in one case were ready to pull their own heads off after a while just to end the pain.
***Loudly tell the to shut their mouth holes already. What are they women that have to fill every quiet moment with their vomitous filth?
5) A kid repeatedly cursing at and in front of other kids during a multi-player game.
***That’s funny.. Kick him out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)
Lol. Internet Tough Guy on display.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/26 01:48:21
Subject: Bad Behavior In Game Stores
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These things are quite rare luckily. The young kids are annoying but if they are willing to behave.
The worst that I have seen a kid behave is when he got mad and knocked some guys models of the board. and he was then rather mean to me for having a boyfriend. Damn kids
In general though people at stores are decent people, just try and ignore the troublemakers and never game against them.
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