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**crimsonmicc**

Wow, it sounds like you all live in god forsaken hell pits where deamons prance around in fleshy suits of children's skin.

**Pacific**

I think the problem with kids can be attributed to one thing (disclaimer: I understand a lot of kids behave perfectly well, and better in some cases than adults) which has come up in recent years: Giant, gallon sized cans of monster energy drink or the like being taken into store.

Speaking as an adult with a body anaesthetized to the various debaucheries of the modern western world, even I could feel my eyelids peeling back and a hightened sense of being on edge after drinking some of that stuff. So the effect it must have on a child, to whom cabbage still tastes disgusting, and a single pack of M&Ms can provide energy for 6 hours, I can't imagine. What I do know, is that a broom is the most obvious tool to use to try and prise them free of the ceiling or the wall.

I was trying to help run a demo game of Space Hulk when the re-release came out, a couple of kids were drinking one of said giant cans of Monster. Hands shaking, twitching eyes, one of the kids could barely hold still long enough to move one of the miniatures. I think if I ran my own store, I wouldn't let anyone with energy drinks in through the door, and would most likely run some kinds of drugs test for those who had 'guanine caffeine eyes'

**Worglock**

I'd just go for the "no one that acts like they are under the age of 18 allowed to hang out with out a parent".

That gets the kids AND the manchildren that think they're John Wayne. (What Would Predator Do? He'd go to jail tough guy, now get out.)

**jordanis**

BrassScorpion wrote:4) Two, yes two different adult customers who talked continuously for several hours while in the store on two different days. Neither of these guys ever stopped talking for more than a few seconds in the space of 2 to 3 hours. Neither of these guys brought any models to work on or game with, they just talked incessantly for hours. Many people in the store, including the manager in one case were ready to pull their own heads off after a while just to end the pain.

how is that even possible? i run out of junk to talk about after 15-30 minutes...lol...

**Frazzled**

Worglock wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Why are you afraid of dealing with children? Use your Big Boy voice and maintain the pecking order.

1) One kid knee another in the butt and send him crashing into the painting/hobby table.
***That’s funny. Kick them out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)

2) An adult with an obtrusive and obnoxiously loud ring-tone who also made babbling noises while assembling his models. The same loud voiced guy also complained that someone threw their dice at him in a game the day before. Since I've rarely ever seen him in a store where he wasn't either thoughtlessly or deliberately rude to employees, customers or both it's no surprise. Then he actually at one point made disparaging comments about the intelligence of someone else in the store. Amazing.
***That’s funny.. Kick him out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)

3) A kid who gets out of his seat dozens of times, sometimes multiple times in just a few minutes who bumps you every time he gets up and sits down. Even after moving my chair an additional foot away the problem persisted and I also had to ask him to stop kicking me, twice! Needless to say, it's fairly difficult to paint under such circumstances. Of course the parent just dropped him off and left him there with no supervision. Ugh.
***Lean in very quietly. Tell him you have a teenage son who needs gas money really bad, and if Dad’s little oopsy gets near you one more time you’re going to give the teenager $50 to beat him like a redheaded stepchild.

4) Two, yes two different adult customers who talked continuously for several hours while in the store on two different days. Neither of these guys ever stopped talking for more than a few seconds in the space of 2 to 3 hours. Neither of these guys brought any models to work on or game with, they just talked incessantly for hours. Many people in the store, including the manager in one case were ready to pull their own heads off after a while just to end the pain.
***Loudly tell the to shut their mouth holes already. What are they women that have to fill every quiet moment with their vomitous filth?

5) A kid repeatedly cursing at and in front of other kids during a multi-player game.
***That’s funny.. Kick him out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)

Lol. Tired cranky Dad on display.

Corrected your typo youngling.

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Worglock wrote:I'd just go for the "no one that acts like they are under the age of 18 allowed to hang out with out a parent".

That gets the kids AND the manchildren that think they're John Wayne. (What Would Predator Do? He'd go to jail tough guy, now get out.)

Incorrect. Predator would eat a cheeseburger. Remember, Predator likes beef.

**Eilif**

Frazzled wrote:Incorrect. Predator would eat a cheeseburger. Remember, Predator likes beef.

I challenge your assumption that Predator prefers cooked meat. I posit that, like Gollum, Predator likes it "raw and wriggling".

**Frazzled**

Eilif wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Incorrect. Predator would eat a cheeseburger. Remember, Predator likes beef.

I challenge your assumption that Predator prefers cooked meat. I posit that, like Gollum, Predator likes it "raw and wriggling".

Oh I didn't say it had to be cooked. But everything tastes better with cheese and BACON. mmmm....

**ArbeitsSchu**

Frazzled wrote:
Worglock wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Why are you afraid of dealing with children? Use your Big Boy voice and maintain the pecking order.

1) One kid knee another in the butt and send him crashing into the painting/hobby table.
***That’s funny. Kick them out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)

2) An adult with an obtrusive and obnoxiously loud ring-tone who also made babbling noises while assembling his models. The same loud voiced guy also complained that someone threw their dice at him in a game the day before. Since I've rarely ever seen him in a store where he wasn't either thoughtlessly or deliberately rude to employees, customers or both it's no surprise. Then he actually at one point made disparaging comments about the intelligence of someone else in the store. Amazing.
***That’s funny.. Kick him out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)

3) A kid who gets out of his seat dozens of times, sometimes multiple times in just a few minutes who bumps you every time he gets up and sits down. Even after moving my chair an additional foot away the problem persisted and I also had to ask him to stop kicking me, twice! Needless to say, it's fairly difficult to paint under such circumstances. Of course the parent just dropped him off and left him there with no supervision. Ugh.
***Lean in very quietly. Tell him you have a teenage son who needs gas money really bad, and if Dad’s little oopsy gets near you one more time you’re going to give the teenager $50 to beat him like a redheaded stepchild.

4) Two, yes two different adult customers who talked continuously for several hours while in the store on two different days. Neither of these guys ever stopped talking for more than a few seconds in the space of 2 to 3 hours. Neither of these guys brought any models to work on or game with, they just talked incessantly for hours. Many people in the store, including the manager in one case were ready to pull their own heads off after a while just to end the pain.
***Loudly tell the to shut their mouth holes already. What are they women that have to fill every quiet moment with their vomitous filth?

5) A kid repeatedly cursing at and in front of other kids during a multi-player game.
***That’s funny.. Kick him out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)

Lol. Tired cranky Dad on display.

Corrected your typo youngling.

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Worglock wrote:I'd just go for the "no one that acts like they are under the age of 18 allowed to hang out with out a parent".

That gets the kids AND the manchildren that think they're John Wayne. (What Would Predator Do? He'd go to jail tough guy, now get out.)

Incorrect. Predator would eat a cheeseburger. Remember, Predator likes beef.

I was going to say you appear to have either worked in childcare or the security industry....

**Frazzled**

ArbeitsSchu wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Worglock wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Why are you afraid of dealing with children? Use your Big Boy voice and maintain the pecking order.

1) One kid knee another in the butt and send him crashing into the painting/hobby table.
***That’s funny. Kick them out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)

2) An adult with an obtrusive and obnoxiously loud ring-tone who also made babbling noises while assembling his models. The same loud voiced guy also complained that someone threw their dice at him in a game the day before. Since I've rarely ever seen him in a store where he wasn't either thoughtlessly or deliberately rude to employees, customers or both it's no surprise. Then he actually at one point made disparaging comments about the intelligence of someone else in the store. Amazing.
***That’s funny.. Kick him out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)

3) A kid who gets out of his seat dozens of times, sometimes multiple times in just a few minutes who bumps you every time he gets up and sits down. Even after moving my chair an additional foot away the problem persisted and I also had to ask him to stop kicking me, twice! Needless to say, it's fairly difficult to paint under such circumstances. Of course the parent just dropped him off and left him there with no supervision. Ugh.
***Lean in very quietly. Tell him you have a teenage son who needs gas money really bad, and if Dad’s little oopsy gets near you one more time you’re going to give the teenager $50 to beat him like a redheaded stepchild.

4) Two, yes two different adult customers who talked continuously for several hours while in the store on two different days. Neither of these guys ever stopped talking for more than a few seconds in the space of 2 to 3 hours. Neither of these guys brought any models to work on or game with, they just talked incessantly for hours. Many people in the store, including the manager in one case were ready to pull their own heads off after a while just to end the pain.
***Loudly tell the to shut their mouth holes already. What are they women that have to fill every quiet moment with their vomitous filth?

5) A kid repeatedly cursing at and in front of other kids during a multi-player game.
***That’s funny.. Kick him out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)

Lol. Tired cranky Dad on display.

Corrected your typo youngling.

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Worglock wrote:I'd just go for the "no one that acts like they are under the age of 18 allowed to hang out with out a parent".

That gets the kids AND the manchildren that think they're John Wayne. (What Would Predator Do? He'd go to jail tough guy, now get out.)

Incorrect. Predator would eat a cheeseburger. Remember, Predator likes beef.

I was going to say you appear to have either worked in childcare or the security industry....

As a Dad I would say: both.

**Maxstreel**

It's difficult for a store owner to kick out potential customers. In our hobby, it appears that the kiddos are the one's that spend the money, which is where the bread and butter of the store comes from. Whether it's pokemon, Yu-gi-oh, Magic, etc... whatever makes that cash register ring is what the owner will cater to.

At the same time, it's also difficult to run a business and on top of that be a police-man monitoring everyone's behavior. Add to that up-selling, customer service, chatting to the customer and building rapport and a solid customer base, etc. that is required to make it in this niche-business.

I can't side with those who say "Ban the kids, they suck!" neither can I side with the "Game Store Monastery where the owner stares at you as if you're going to shoplift" due to no kids.

We are geeks (and I definitely include myself in that). Social skills are tough so we tend to clique together. The only thing I can say with definite emphasis... Shower and use deodorant regularly and in that order! The rest: rudeness, obnoxious behavior, flagrant geekery, etc. we can work on.

**MeanGreenStompa**

The obvious point in the OP was that this is a GW store.

They are used, certainly where I come from, as daycare, both for children (often far too young to be playing the game) and the mentally infirm.

I've found using a FLGS, whenever possible, usually alleviates this.

Mind you, there are some stinkers in that classification as well, but at least they don't all follow a trend, whereas every GW I've visited has.

**Eilif**

Frazzled wrote:
Eilif wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Incorrect. Predator would eat a cheeseburger. Remember, Predator likes beef.

I challenge your assumption that Predator prefers cooked meat. I posit that, like Gollum, Predator likes it "raw and wriggling".
Oh I didn't say it had to be cooked. But everything tastes better with cheese and BACON. mmmm....

Touche'. Even predator couldn't resist a burger tartar with cheese and bacon.

Truth be told, I'm not sure I could resist such a conction.

**AvatarForm**

crimsonmicc wrote:Wow, it sounds like you all live in god forsaken hell pits where deamons prance around in fleshy suits of children's skin.

yes, comparatively awesome compared to a GW store during after-school/school holidays hours...

**Ketara**

Worglock wrote:

Lol. Internet Tough Guy on display.

You're new around here, aren't you?

**hungryp**

Col_Torsin wrote:
Example: a 12 year old stealing and running of with my Gaunts ghosts squad, and my cheesebuger...

Damn, that sucks! I hope it didn't have bacon on it!

**Auxellion**

Pacific wrote:I think the problem with kids can be attributed to one thing (disclaimer: I understand a lot of kids behave perfectly well, and better in some cases than adults) which has come up in recent years: Giant, gallon sized cans of monster energy drink or the like being taken into store.

Speaking as an adult with a body anaesthetized to the various debaucheries of the modern western world, even I could feel my eyelids peeling back and a hightened sense of being on edge after drinking some of that stuff. So the effect it must have on a child, to whom cabbage still tastes disgusting, and a single pack of M&Ms can provide energy for 6 hours, I can't imagine. What I do know, is that a broom is the most obvious tool to use to try and prise them free of the ceiling or the wall.

I was trying to help run a demo game of Space Hulk when the re-release came out, a couple of kids were drinking one of said giant cans of Monster. Hands shaking, twitching eyes, one of the kids could barely hold still long enough to move one of the miniatures. I think if I ran my own store, I wouldn't let anyone with energy drinks in through the door, and would most likely run some kinds of drugs test for those who had 'guanine caffeine eyes'

I hope they never drink a Redline

**Some_Call_Me_Tim?**

To the OP: Dang, sounds like your metro sucks. I am the youngest guy who plays Warhammer Fantasy at my FLGS (I'm old enough to drive). Everyone else is at least in their 30's, and we have a lot of 50-60 year olds. They are just really great guys that have been playing for years. Guess I'm lucky.
Shoot, even the local Wh40k crowd (which seems to consist mostly of 8-12 years olds WAAAGHING! everywhere else) is fairly well behaved.

This reminds me of an interesting statistic I made up: 50% of gamers are incredibly awesome, nice people, 30% are completley WAAC, and 20% are kids. Sadly, the WAAC 'eads and kids are so loud and rude that they seem to make up about 90% of all gamers.

_Tim?

(Now, our Magic: The Gathering crowd is just plain loud. Nice people, but really, really loud)

**Frazzled**

Ketara wrote:
Worglock wrote:

Lol. Internet Tough Guy on display.

You're new around here, aren't you?

Well he's never met me in person. I'm just a cute lovable teddy bear. Really.

**Worglock**

Frazzled wrote:
Ketara wrote:
Worglock wrote:

Lol. Internet Tough Guy on display.

You're new around here, aren't you?

Well he's never met me in person. I'm just a cute lovable teddy bear. Really.

well. That's cute. I guess. In that "this is why Warhammer players have such a rep for being mal-adjusted anti-social misfits" kind of way.

**Auxellion**

Poster above can be slotted into "mal-adjusted anti-social misfit" category quite easily

**ArbeitsSchu**

Auxellion wrote:Poster above can be slotted into "mal-adjusted anti-social misfit" category quite easily

But I'll wager his kids are well-behaved.

**shingouki**

Frazzled wrote:Why are you afraid of dealing with children? Use your Big Boy voice and maintain the pecking order.

1) One kid knee another in the butt and send him crashing into the painting/hobby table.
***That’s funny. Kick them out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)

2) An adult with an obtrusive and obnoxiously loud ring-tone who also made babbling noises while assembling his models. The same loud voiced guy also complained that someone threw their dice at him in a game the day before. Since I've rarely ever seen him in a store where he wasn't either thoughtlessly or deliberately rude to employees, customers or both it's no surprise. Then he actually at one point made disparaging comments about the intelligence of someone else in the store. Amazing.
***That’s funny.. Kick him out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)

3) A kid who gets out of his seat dozens of times, sometimes multiple times in just a few minutes who bumps you every time he gets up and sits down. Even after moving my chair an additional foot away the problem persisted and I also had to ask him to stop kicking me, twice! Needless to say, it's fairly difficult to paint under such circumstances. Of course the parent just dropped him off and left him there with no supervision. Ugh.
***Lean in very quietly. Tell him you have a teenage son who needs gas money really bad, and if Dad’s little oopsy gets near you one more time you’re going to give the teenager $50 to beat him like a redheaded stepchild.

4) Two, yes two different adult customers who talked continuously for several hours while in the store on two different days. Neither of these guys ever stopped talking for more than a few seconds in the space of 2 to 3 hours. Neither of these guys brought any models to work on or game with, they just talked incessantly for hours. Many people in the store, including the manager in one case were ready to pull their own heads off after a while just to end the pain.
***Loudly tell the to shut their mouth holes already. What are they women that have to fill every quiet moment with their vomitous filth?

5) A kid repeatedly cursing at and in front of other kids during a multi-player game.
***That’s funny.. Kick him out by literally throwing them out and toss their minis behind. Remember WWPD? (What would Predator do?)

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sir you are AWESOME,i often wonder why people gripe about things after the fact.if people are being pricks damn well tell em.at my flgs ive never seen any thing thats been described in this thread as the lads in the store both staff and customers wouldn't take that kind of gak.people know right from wrong and you don't have to put up with clowns around you.
thank you.

**Auxellion**

ArbeitsSchu wrote:
Auxellion wrote:Poster above can be slotted into "mal-adjusted anti-social misfit" category quite easily

But I'll wager his kids are well-behaved.

Totally

**Worglock**

Auxellion wrote:Poster above can be slotted into "mal-adjusted anti-social misfit" category quite easily

you could at least name names. And cite some reasoning.

At least put some effort into it.

**bdix**

You should move to NWA...nothing but love here!

**Auxellion**

Worglock wrote:
Auxellion wrote:Poster above can be slotted into "mal-adjusted anti-social misfit" category quite easily

you could at least name names. And cite some reasoning.

At least put some effort into it.

I didn't want to interrupt your trolling spree Worglock. I hope you have it in your heart to forgive me.

**Frazzled**

Worglock wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Ketara wrote:
Worglock wrote:

Lol. Internet Tough Guy on display.

You're new around here, aren't you?

Well he's never met me in person. I'm just a cute lovable teddy bear. Really.

well. That's cute. I guess. In that "this is why Warhammer players have such a rep for being mal-adjusted anti-social misfits" kind of way.

Wait, you're dissing a weiner dog? And not just any weiner dog but Our Leader Dark Lord Tbone? Oh, you can kiss those ankles goodbye now.

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ArbeitsSchu wrote:
Auxellion wrote:Poster above can be slotted into "mal-adjusted anti-social misfit" category quite easily

But I'll wager his kids are well-behaved.

kids implies mating. The Magic 8 Ball says "doubtful"

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Auxellion wrote:
Worglock wrote:
Auxellion wrote:Poster above can be slotted into "mal-adjusted anti-social misfit" category quite easily

you could at least name names. And cite some reasoning.

At least put some effort into it.

I didn't want to interrupt your trolling spree Worglock. I hope you have it in your heart to forgive me.

We forgive you for him.

**ArbeitsSchu**

Them tiny dogs are like concentrated evil. Also, they move low and fast, like an ambulatory torpedo. Drop one of those in a GW full of naughty kids and watch how fast it clears.

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Incidentally, from the POV of someone who spent time trying to herd boisterous drunken adults (possibly the worst behaved of "customers" available) away from setting fire to the furniture or each other, engaging in sexual assault or grievous bodily harm or just generally acting like a shower of giddy children, I have found that using a strong "Parental" tone can work wonders. The techniques Frazzled suggests can and do actually work to control idjits, and I guarantee that a pub full of pissed football fans is substantially more difficult than a games shop full of smelly teens.

**TheGiantPeanut**

This thread confuses me...

**Auxellion**

TheGiantPeanut wrote:This thread confuses me...

Immaturity does that