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Those 'plain' looking helmets are begging for freehand daemon faces.

Bloodwin wrote:I thought that FW had already said that the Chaos Dwarfs aren't meant to be an army in their own right. I think it ties into the new Chaos army options in the FW book that lets you choose from across the Warriors Demons and Beastmen books and presumably whatever is in the book along with the Chaos Dwarves. I do like these guys though, although the blank helms seem a bit close to the current Dark Eldar trend. My worry is that if people buy these figures at these prices GW might get the idea that they can put old niche armies (like 40k Squats) out via Forgeworld with less support from the game devs and more profit. I mean if GW have a way of doing resin en mass then it could be very easy to do limited runs via FW with that heft FW price tag...

I thought FW somewhat more recently said that you *could* field an army of Chaos Dwarfs on their own, rules to be published in...

Death By Monkeys wrote:Um, so what book has the rules for fielding these guys?

Tamurkhan: The Throne of Chaos

This quote here:

Forge World wrote:

An Iron Daemon can be taken as a Rare choice in a Warriors of
Chaos army that also contains a Chaos Dwarf character with the
Daemonsmith* special rule, or as a Special choice in a Legion of
Azgorh army.

seems to hint at the existence of a Chaos Dwarf army list...

They will be mine!

Yeah, the Legion of Azgorh is a CD only list.

Not sure at the moment if that literally means CD only and doesn't include the BC and hobgoblins...

Which would imply a second list.

Given that the Infernal Guard can be armed with a lot of weapons they could be a multi purpose core unit in a very restricted list.

I have a feeling that once we see these dudes painted, those helms will be a hell of a lot sexier. The right color scheme and application could shoot these out of the park... I know that goes for any mini really, but I have a good feeling about these!

The most interesting part of this update for me is the apparent introduction of a new chaos god. Think we'll see the fluff from this book impact the main universe?

What new Chaos God? Hashut?

Hashut isn't remotely new, he was described in their 5th edition army book (early 90s?) and mentioned elsewhere before that.

Yeah, what he said.

Heres the links to the experimental rules, for the lazy

Infernal Guard:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/i/Infernal-Guard.pdf

Iron Daemon:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/i/Iron-Daemon.pdf


Btw, the "Contempt" special rule held by Infernal Guard states "As a result Chaos Dwarf and Bull Centaur units are not subject to Panic tests caused by friendly units which are destroyed or fail a Break test within 6" of them, unless the unit that is destroyed or broken is itself a Chaos Dwarf or Bull Centaur unit.As a result Chaos Dwarf and Bull Centaur units are not subject to Panic tests caused by friendly units which are destroyed or fail a Break test within 6" of them, unless the unit that is destroyed or broken is itself a Chaos Dwarf or Bull Centaur unit." This confirms that Bull Centaurs will be in the list.

If you take a Chaos Dwarf character in your WoC army, the Infernal Guard are special, the Iron Daemon is rare.

ghost21 wrote:A tiny bit of info:
The list in the Turkmanian book for CD will be based around the black fortess.
There WILL however be a normal CD list coming out with a WF book SOON afterwards!
(...)
I can say that the WF (or FW) Chaos Dwarves will have a fair amount of diversity from these guys to the Bull Centaurs, there will be a lot of "uniqueness" to each unit (and the immortals will make a lot of people happy)

These guys have to EARN their right to be accepted into Hashut's good graces, so spikey armour? good beards? No, you got to earn that buddy boy!

The scale armour parts are supposed to be the tie in (that will be the theme)

Fingers crossed for a Chaos Dwarf Lord in steam powered armour with flamethrower attachments and other gubbins.

Now that is a nice cannon. Might have to consider it for my WoC hellcannon.

I'm hoping that the Hellcannon makes an appearance in one(or both) of the CD lists. May actually put off my TKs for CDs.

These are full of win.

With GW's shady "embargo" looming, perhaps FW should get some more love with releases such as this...

Now to wait for the Thunderwolves...

However, an Aussie sculptor has released his own goblins, some which may suit your ideals of Chaos Dwarven Sorecerors and other "counts-as", dependent on what the List specifies.

http://www.imbrianarts.com/International/home.html

There is also a Dwerg/Dwergen range which my Google'fu cannot locate, yet I bought a box of them at MOAB.

These look just great, I am so glad that GW has released a dwarf sculpt which is less than 85% beard!

Howard A Treesong wrote:Hashut isn't remotely new, he was described in their 5th edition army book (early 90s?) and mentioned elsewhere before that.

Then I stand corrected. Please forgive the ignorance, as I haven't been in the hobby for very long, compared to many people on this site. That being said, does anyone think that GW will do much with hashut after this release? I know a fair bit about malal, which they apparently retconned out of existence. Think we'll see a mark of hashut in the next chaos book?

No, he's a god of the Chaos Dwarves only.

Damn straight he is!

I hope this renewed interest translates into a new Army Book for Chaos Dwarfs with full plastic support and 100% non-goofy Bull Centaurs.

(Please?)

Highly detailed heads? Looks more like "lack of detail" heads for the most part.

These Dwarfs look fantastic!

insaniak wrote:I may just have found an alternative to the old (rather dodgy) Armorcast Cannon of Khorne...

You gotta be kidding! I love that thing -- it's so OTT, perfect for WHFB. I don't mean to detract at all from this one, which is extremely cool for what it's supposed to be.

Huh. And here I thought GW had banned FW from doing CD infantry and an armylist for them. Guess things change.

Death By Monkeys wrote:Huh. And here I thought GW had banned FW from doing CD infantry and an armylist for them. Guess things change.

I don't know about that, but FW had said they didn't want to originally since "current techniques would have made Chaos Dwarf infantry that would have been absurdly expensive" in regards to the size of infantry blocks. They said 'things might change' however.

Hot diggety dafodil those are nice.

Pretty good models...but for over 200$ for a unit of 40 guys seems a bit excessive.. Almost like an advertisement to buy mantic minis and use the new CD rules in the FW book

However, it does look interesting

Those are much, much nicer than the mantic evil dwarves though. I am not enthusiastic about mantics efforts in that regard. I'd almost prefer to convert from their standard plastic dwarves than put up with all the ridiculous bling the evil ones come with. For that reason, the WF ones are tempting, but I will resist. £3.60 a head is just way too much!

Bloodwin wrote:I thought that FW had already said that the Chaos Dwarfs aren't meant to be an army in their own right...

Death By Monkeys wrote:Huh. And here I thought GW had banned FW from doing CD infantry and an armylist for them. Guess things change.

Originally the idea was that all the CD were only going to be available as allies. That "Tamurkhan: The Throne of Chaos" was to be a two part book, which if successful the second book would cover CD as a stand alone army. All the rumors of CD not being a stand alone army or being ban was only with regard to the "first" book... when GW wanted something smaller and more condensed, saving the rest for the second book. The author of the book left FW and it was decided to just release it as one big book containing the big mix and match list and a separate CD only list.

What we're seeing now is the pre-Tamurkhan book miniature release... there is suppose to be another release coinciding with the book... implications based on progress of models... the other "land train" sections, bull centaurs, and hellsmiths. Post rulebook release we will see hobgoblin wolf riders and hobgoblin slaves.

Finally, an excuse to dust off my evil stunties. The upcoming book may be my first FW purchase.

@Da Boss: Mantic's stuff is definitely not as nice qua sculpting as FW's. But at least they are remotely reasonably in price and, Peter Jackson's LotR/Dragon Age-esque armor on the Lord aside, are pretty well true to the more ridiculous -- er, utterly awesome (I mean it sincerely) sculpts of yore. Then again, if you don't want them then even a reasonable price is much too high.