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Oh yeah, resin is so much better...instead of having parts fall off during play and having to glue them back on, they just break.

Sidstyler wrote:Oh yeah, resin is so much better...instead of having parts fall off during play and having to glue them back on, they just break.

The resin is more flexible and less likely to be permanently deformed or damaged from bending. The resin isn't very weak, the only issues with the hardness would come in banner poles or antennae, both of which make the model top heavy when metal anyway. There's a give and take to the two materials.

Finecast all the way. The appeal in metal, to me, reeks of nostalgia over practicality. Finecast has crisper models, ridiculous conversion ease, and durability.

I'll gladly pay 2 or 3 dollars more for finecast over metal.

Keep the metal Chaos Dreadnought; don't take away it's only use - a dreadsock.

I have to say, Finecast. The convertability of plastics, but the detail of metal. I have found that complaints of miscasts are overstated.

Sidstyler wrote:Oh yeah, resin is so much better...instead of having parts fall off during play and having to glue them back on, they just break.

Agreed. Resin (not the fincast hybrid) is a royal pain in re-gluing small and minute parts back together.

Finecast is a whole different animal all together. My testing confirms that the newest batch of the material has less problems than the initial run.

Metal. But don't raise the price again switching back.

Finecast, our gaming group has had nothing but trouble with metal models.

snurl wrote:Metal. But don't raise the price again switching back.

You hadn't heard? GW is currently planning on releasing some limited time only ULTRACASTTM models. These will be even superior to Finecast models - no air bubbles, no miscasts, and best of all, they'll be using the patented GW White Metallic SubstanceTM , which will be for HHHobbiests who prefer a little 'heft' to their models.

I have yet to handle a finecast model, so for now I'll vote metal. I just like the weight.

I like finecast, as in the material, but the quality of the casts that GW has produced is appalling especially for how much they are charging. If it keeps up I would prefer to go back to metal.

meh .. could care less what my models are made of, as long as they look good.

Finecast would be nice if the costs got passed down...so I voted that way. I just don't see it happening. Finecast would be fine if they could just clean up the process a little. I've worked with both metals and resin (Finecast and FW) and I have to say I liked the resin better. Metals had to be pinned (so does some heavier models in resin) and they are almost imposible to convert, where as resin is much easier to convert. I've never had any probelm with resin models breaking either but then again I didn't try and bend them to much.

Thats a tough one. Since the almost all my minis are plastic, the occasional metal mini feels oddly heavy. Also its much harder to convert. Add those together and I try to avoid them if I can. Funny since when i started gaming metal was the only thing out there.

Finecast Im not interested in at all...as I have to mail order stuff and there are far to many flaws with Finecast to risk it.

Do you want the metal models back?

Yes of course. Resin is a cheap, light, low quality, substitute also proven to have even worse quality control than the metals do.

Well, considering your votes, it looks like Gw should bring back metal AND keep resin, and have everyone choose their favourite. If 41% prefer metal then this might actually work....

That would be awesome.

I wish they'd bring bits back too, with either option!

2 finecast models thus far purchased myself. both are flawless. sure there is a little exra flash, but it literally flaked off

2 models are
painboy with grot orderly
boss zagstruk

I'd not mind plastic either as long as it was cheaper

Metal is such a pain in the ass with modify. Ive done it many times mind you, but it takes alot of work and more time then normal to get the parts you want grind down properly. I would REALLY like it if they improved their quality control on the new resin, and also brought the price down a tad, its just way to friggin high. I can see them at least doing one of those requests

Oh GW you made a really bad decisions with finecast. I think most people who have painted or even assembled a finecast model realize just how poor they are in comparison to metal. Not only did GW give us a crap product they charged us more, which doesn't surprise me. Truthfully we all know its cheaper to a make a resin model and it yet again comes down to making money. 15 bucks for a metal hero model is pretty expensive but 22 bucks for a POS resin model is a joke. People want plastic or metal. Finecast is garbage. They should just give us a jello mold of the metal models and it would still be better then finecast. It would also taste better, I think.

To be fair on my vote, I've not purchased any finecast.

However, I HAVE handled the ones my group have purchased, of which only 1(a Shadowseer) out of 15-20 came out good.

The worst was a Haemonculus: foot with no toes due to extra material, half the right hand missing, air bubbles that ruined the other hand and fine details, the bent parts were the most fragile parts of the sculpt. Thing was a pure disaster. The Wracks and other pieces weren't as bad, but they weren't worth their cost.

I went to my local friendly gaming store yesterday and asked if they stocked any fine cast models for 40k yet, he replied they have been selling out.

He's been having large issues with them, as in holes and large warping issues. He said many of the models have become much more detailed while some remain in his opinion the same model as before. He said they are a pain the the ass to deal with.

I've yet to own my own fine cast model however in the near future I will be getting specific models once more IG models are re-casted. One thing I will miss about my metal models is a two hour bath in simple green to strip and repaint them... days of old coming soon.

I despise Failcost with every fibre of my being, so let me blow your mind for a second:


I prefer Failcost over metal.


Now that you've picked both yourselves and your jaws off the floor, let me qualify that statement:

1. I have no specific problems with resin as a miniature making material. It's comes in a very distant second compared to plastic miniatures, but even despite that working in resin is not a serious issue for me. I have oodles of resin miniatures from all sorts of companies, and I can even put up with Forge World's antics.
2. I hate metal models. They break when you look at them, when they fall over (which is often, as they're heavy) and the 'heft' of a metal model has never been important to me in the slightest.
3. Failcost is the worst thing to come out of GW since... since... since the last worst thing to come out of GW. It is an overhyped and overpriced cost-cutting measure that provides us with exceptionally low quality models using a horrible semi-resin substance and it is plagued with a lack of QA that makes even Forge World look like the most diligent casters known to man.

If not for that third thing, I'd be all over Finecast. As it stands though, I will always prefer resin over metal, but I won't touch Finecast because of everything it is (badly produced, cheap tacky material) and everything it represents (the endless corruption and contempt that GW holds for its customers).

I’m in a similar boat as HBMC. I’ve always preferred resin/plastic but I hate Finecast which is why I voted for metal. Finecast (as well as GW’s dodgy business practices) as far as I’m concerned are here to stay so if I had to choose between Finecast or metal, metal wins.

I hope they eventually melt down all their metal models so I never have to work with any ever again. Seriously I dont understand the "weight" behind them statement.. Do you play in areas with wind? Yes plastic falls over but who cares, its plastic.. When metal falls (and it does EASIER because of the weight! it breaks or chips)

IMO after working with models for half my life I do not know of single advantage of metal over resin/plastic.. Metal is cheaper to produce so I suppose thats an advantage, but from a hobby standpoint it doesnt have a single redeeming quality

Ive bought a lot of finecast models so far and havent had a single miscast and out of my entire store I've only heard of 1 problem and that issue was more a missing piece than a bad cast

Kirasu wrote:I hope they eventually melt down all their metal models so I never have to work with any ever again. Seriously I dont understand the "weight" behind them statement.. Do you play in areas with wind? Yes plastic falls over but who cares, its plastic.. When metal falls (and it does EASIER because of the weight! it breaks or chips)

In all fairness the question was metal vs resin not injection molded plastic...

However, I will agree with you. Id be a happy boy if I could have everything in plastic and skip metal and resin. There are several GW minis Ive just plain skipped as I dont want finecast at all, and Im not interested enough in them to buy metal...mostly due to wanting to convert the mini, but not enough to tackle metal.

Ive dropped many plastic minis and yet to have 1 break. They bounce like crazy, but always hold together. This is especially true if you use plastic model cement, as it melts the joint to create a "weld", making a very strong bond.

I have yet to buy any finecast, kind of boycotting it myself,(cheaper materials at a higher price) also I have in metal all the models that i needed that have been turned to finecast to this point, Zoan's Lictors Tyrants and Guards, and I have metal for the 4 marine types I'd need and they're all metal too so....

As for the style I have no problems with resin in fact of the chapterhouse and forgeworld resin kits I have I think they are real nice just needed to be washed before I started painting on them.

But Plastic is by far the best in my opinion.

Definitely finecast. It's lighter, making models more stable. It's easier to convert, needing only a hobby knife to cut through even the thickest sections of a model. It's easier to prepare before building the model - mold lines come off by scraping a knife over them like plastics, and tubes cut off just as easily.

There is the miscast issue, which isn't really an issue since you just return any miscasts. There's also the price issue, but I simply avoid buying some of the more ludicrously priced stuff ($83au for Archaon? Good luck with that).


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dalsiandon wrote:I have yet to buy any finecast, kind of boycotting it myself,(cheaper materials at a higher price) also I have in metal all the models that i needed that have been turned to finecast to this point, Zoan's Lictors Tyrants and Guards

You are seriously doing yourself a disservice getting those in metal. Metal was a terrible material choice for them, and in resin they're so much better.

I'd prefer plastic, of course, but I understand why that's not an option sometimes. So, Finecast. I haven't bought a single Finecast model yet because, well, we know why. That being said, I'd pick Finecast - specifically, Future Finecast®, when they have perfected the process so it's less of a lottery. It's a better product, or at least, it will be. When that happens, I will never look back. I'm sure it will be pretty soon now.

I don't like metal and I won't be sad to see it gone (although I do like how the weight feels).

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dalsiandon wrote:I have yet to buy any finecast, kind of boycotting it myself,(cheaper materials at a higher price) also I have in metal all the models that i needed that have been turned to finecast to this point, Zoan's Lictors Tyrants and Guards

You are seriously doing yourself a disservice getting those in metal. Metal was a terrible material choice for them, and in resin they're so much better.

When I got them metal was all they had, finecast didn't exist yet.