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For the love of god no, my Mom has one, I hate that pistol. You know that webbing in between your thumb and index finger? That area of skin right above it? Do you like it being there? If so, don't get a PPK.

Their what I consider a purse gun, great for CC but painful to shoot.

Hm. Well, like I said. Lots of research to do.

Sorry if I came off harsh or dickish at all, I just really hate that gun

If your new to firearms and pistols in general, I suggest a Ruger Mk I, II or III. Good pistol to learn the basics with.

And Melissia, like I said that Colt will do you well, as long as your comfortable with it, the best gun is the one you practice with the most. And I do gotta admit, that is a nice looking pistol. Though I've heard the grip can rub you raw if your wearing IWB. How were you planning on carrying it?

I'm built like a antelope, so I ended up having to more of a over the kidney type carry with my pistol as I just have no hip area for the holster to rest up against.

This is what I use
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/SuperTuckDeluxe/tabid/90/List/0/ProductID/1/CategoryID/1/Level/1/Default.aspx?SortField=ProductName,ProductName

Though I have a good friend that does custom leather work for a good price so may have him make me up something new.

I'm not sure. The concealed carry laws in Texas are somewhat labyrinthine, to say the least.

A concealed carry holster of some sort to be sure (that one looks good), and when weather permits, in my duster after a bit of modifying to put a holster in it (with the appropriate security to ensure it doesn't slip out) might be appropriate.

Hmm, I like IWB my self, not a huge fan of open carry honestly.

As I mentioned, alot of my friends of the female type are not fans of IWB due to the cut of yall's clothing and such, do you know anyone that can let you borrow a holster (with a 1911 would be best) to try it out?

I can't help you out on Tx's gun laws, from what I understand their pretty decent though.

And just because it's a gun thread, pictures of that Jericho I mentioned


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I loathe the desert eagle style. I also loathe the desert eagle.

Let's leave it at that.

But it's so shiny!

But it's the baby Eagle!

Now for the record, I have shot the DE a bit, and I to loathe it, it's a over hyped gangbanger gun.

The Jericho is nothing like it, it's smooth, crisp and accurate as hell. Where as the DE was sloppy, cumbersome and just felt... wrong. Not to mention if you limp wristed it you would drop the mag from the gun... wtf

I'm the first to hate on a gun for being a POS, but besides some visual similarities, their very different. But, if you don't like how they look ya don't like em, one of the reasons I hate Glocks.

@ Sckitzo...

Whats your opinion of the S&W M&P45?

For my part, I don't like how most glocks look either (some models look okay).

If I was buying purely on aesthetics, I'd get a nice magnum revolver like the Raging Bull or Anaconda, heh. But this is a gun I intend to actually use, and it has to be affordable as well.

Have not held one in person yet, but I frequent a couple of more gun friendly boards and people seem to like it alot. It's a pretty decent looking gun, with a big round. Looks to be a full sized so that can either be a blessing or a curse depending. S&W has been making firearms a long, long time, I trust their name so I'd give it a fair shot if I was looking for a .45 that wasn't a 1911.

Also Melissia, have you fired a 1911 yet? I imagine Texas has a few indoor ranges where you can't rent a pistol for an hour, I'd recommend doing that and go through 50-100 rounds to see how you like it.


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I carry a Ruger SP-101 from time to time, Revolvers have their place, but they do sorta take the back seat anymore. Glocks are just to...blocky for me, why I went with a Beretta, nice and pretty

I don't remember, actually. I've fired a wide variety of handguns, but most of them my father sold off (he received some hand-me-downs from his friends) and only kept the one he liked firing the most and a small heirloom pistol from his mother's side. I don't remember all of the guns he had at the time.

I should go do that, find one which allows me to rent out a 1991/1911 handgun for firing.


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Sckitzo wrote:Revolvers have their place, but they do sorta take the back seat anymore.

Indeed. Especially now that Colt stopped making all their revolvers except for their SAA.

Sckitzo wrote:Have not held one in person yet, but I frequent a couple of more gun friendly boards and people seem to like it alot. It's a pretty decent looking gun, with a big round. Looks to be a full sized so that can either be a blessing or a curse depending. S&W has been making firearms a long, long time, I trust their name so I'd give it a fair shot if I was looking for a .45 that wasn't a 1911.

Also Melissia, have you fired a 1911 yet? I imagine Texas has a few indoor ranges where you can't rent a pistol for an hour, I'd recommend doing that and go through 50-100 rounds to see how you like it.


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I carry a Ruger SP-101 from time to time, Revolvers have their place, but they do sorta take the back seat anymore. Glocks are just to...blocky for me, why I went with a Beretta, nice and pretty

Been looking at both the S&W and the HK45...the HK price tag is a bit prohibative though, but the S&W looked and felt pretty good.

Melissia wrote:Considering how much many handguns cost, it's almost always a good idea to research. Research it like you were buying yourself a new TV or even a new car. Your research could save your life one day.

Of course. I'll certainly ask around, check websites, magazines, books, whatever I can get my hands on and only buy one after I have enough information to really know what the hell I'm buying.

Here's what you need:

The switchblade, pocket-pistol, brass knuckles multi-tool!

RatBot wrote:

Melissia wrote:Considering how much many handguns cost, it's almost always a good idea to research. Research it like you were buying yourself a new TV or even a new car. Your research could save your life one day.

Of course. I'll certainly ask around, check websites, magazines, books, whatever I can get my hands on and only buy one after I have enough information to really know what the hell I'm buying.

If you have any questions feel free to PM me, but I am just another random dude on the internet, the best place to start is

What is you firearm experience?
What are you wanting, a pistol, rifle or shotgun?
Why do you want this (what's it's intended use)?

Cute, but more dangerous to its user than its target.

FITZZ wrote:

Sckitzo wrote:Have not held one in person yet, but I frequent a couple of more gun friendly boards and people seem to like it alot. It's a pretty decent looking gun, with a big round. Looks to be a full sized so that can either be a blessing or a curse depending. S&W has been making firearms a long, long time, I trust their name so I'd give it a fair shot if I was looking for a .45 that wasn't a 1911.

Also Melissia, have you fired a 1911 yet? I imagine Texas has a few indoor ranges where you can't rent a pistol for an hour, I'd recommend doing that and go through 50-100 rounds to see how you like it.


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I carry a Ruger SP-101 from time to time, Revolvers have their place, but they do sorta take the back seat anymore. Glocks are just to...blocky for me, why I went with a Beretta, nice and pretty

Been looking at both the S&W and the HK45...the HK price tag is a bit prohibative though, but the S&W looked and felt pretty good.

Went through a medical class with a Ranger in Iraq that had one, that pistol was stupid big, I was joking that if he ran out of ammo he could beat the other guy to death...he got a bit butt hurt but the point stood.

H&K make a damn fine pistol, but they know it, if you call their help line it goes like this
"Velcome to H&K, vhat Agency do you vork for?"
"Umm...none? I'm just a dude that bought one of you..
"VHAT?! A Simple mortal has vone of our precious vorks of art! I am calling the NSA!!!!"

I may be exaggeration, a bit, but still, their not all that nice


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Melissia wrote:I don't remember, actually. I've fired a wide variety of handguns, but most of them my father sold off (he received some hand-me-downs from his friends) and only kept the one he liked firing the most and a small heirloom pistol from his mother's side. I don't remember all of the guns he had at the time.

I should go do that, find one which allows me to rent out a 1991/1911 handgun for firing.


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Sckitzo wrote:Revolvers have their place, but they do sorta take the back seat anymore.

Indeed. Especially now that Colt stopped making all their revolvers except for their SAA.

I so want a matching pair of SAA's (damn you Steven King), but the price tag makes me hide in a corner.

Do you have a prference on single action vs. double action?
i personally prefer the double action since it might be my wife needing to use it at some point instead of me.
Have you looked at the Ruger series of guns? i used to reload. i had a Beretta 92 and a Ruger P89. the Ruger would
shoot anything i fed it, but the Beretta was a jam-o-matic. and the nice thing about Ruger is you can get it for around $450-$500.
leaves you a little money to buy the bullets with!

My grandfather has both the Luger his uncle brought home from the European Theater and the Colt 1911 he served with...I've had the pleasure of seeing and firing both and the Colt is definitely a good gun...

Its got a nice kick, just like my favorite Mexican food!

Joking aside, I would recommend a Ruger 9mm. Just your basic, nothing-fancy 9mm pistol. We've got one and it's easy to fire, not too big, and both the gun and ammo are relatively inexpensive. It's not really a looker, but it does the job, and that's what's important, right?





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alarmingrick wrote:Do you have a prference on single action vs. double action?
i personally prefer the double action since it might be my wife needing to use it at some point instead of me.
Have you looked at the Ruger series of guns? i used to reload. i had a Beretta 92 and a Ruger P89. the Ruger would
shoot anything i fed it, but the Beretta was a jam-o-matic. and the nice thing about Ruger is you can get it for around $450-$500.
leaves you a little money to buy the bullets with!

TBH? I think single action would be better, as the trigger pull is usually a bit harder from my experience. Which may sound odd, but it's a safety thing (less likely to accidently fire it), and safety is rather high in my mind. May be getting them reversed though.

alarmingrick wrote:Do you have a prference on single action vs. double action?
i personally prefer the double action since it might be my wife needing to use it at some point instead of me.
Have you looked at the Ruger series of guns? i used to reload. i had a Beretta 92 and a Ruger P89. the Ruger would
shoot anything i fed it, but the Beretta was a jam-o-matic. and the nice thing about Ruger is you can get it for around $450-$500.
leaves you a little money to buy the bullets with!

DA all the way for me, I do like having the decock option though.

I like Ruger for their revolver's and .22's, not a huge fan of their SA's, but old man Ruger's politics pissed me off alot, now that he's rolling in the grave over what his son is doing the business is coming back up (though they make a hideous AR-15)

My Beretta even eats the nasty Russian steel case I feed it, but Ruger's do have that benefit of being about half the price of a new Beretta...

ETA

I should have said SA/DA

First bang is SA, after that it's DA

rubiksnoob wrote:Joking aside, I would recommend a Ruger 9mm. Just your basic, nothing-fancy 9mm pistol. We've got one and it's easy to fire, not too big, and both the gun and ammo are relatively inexpensive. It's not really a looker, but it does the job, and that's what's important, right?

That's what i'm talking about! Does a good job at a good price.
It also comes in the .45 caliber too if you really wanted to stay in that range.

I likewise generally dislike Rugers, although that one looks okay.

Melissia wrote:I likewise generally dislike Rugers, although that one looks okay.

Well, if you really have the burning, insatiable desire to pay hundreds of dollars more for a pretty looking gun, more power to you!

However, my choice would be the cheap, reliable gun that does the job, even if it doesn't have supermodel looks. And plus, if you're going for concealed carry no one is going to see it anyway!

Uhm. What? The guns I listed were themselves relatively cheap.

Melissia wrote:Uhm. What? The guns I listed were themselves relatively cheap.

You could probably get a quality used Ruger for under 200 bucks if you shopped around a little.

A quality 1911 (read not a Taurus ) is always going to be a bit pricey.

The Ruger's are about half the price, but their two completely different guns, 1911's are sorta in a class of their own.

I own three Ruger's but for self defense I'd rather spend the money on a name I trust a bit more, some of the Ruger's have been failing QA and end up going back to the factory a few times, which can rack up on FFA fees.

But sometimes their spot on and do great, I normally fire a hundred rounds a month or so through my main pistols (not the black powder as it scares the piss out of me) so I can recommend the ones I have, can't vouch for the Ruger's really, or even the Colt's but a few of my gun nut buddies seem to do pretty well with em.

One option for a 1911 is this, http://www.stiguns.com/guns/Spartan/Spartan.php , my boy has one, seems to love it and felt solid to me.

Have to admit I'm a bit perplexed by your apparent dislike of Taurus sckitzo, I've owned my PT92 for well over a decade and have had absolutely no problems with it..

rubiksnoob wrote:

Melissia wrote:Uhm. What? The guns I listed were themselves relatively cheap.

You could probably get a quality used Ruger for under 200 bucks if you shopped around a little.

I could get a used 1911 for quite cheap too, as they're more common here than rugers. But I want to buy a new gun, which I own myself, completely and utterly, as it were. Perhaps I'll eventually even customize it, with a grip more suited to my hands and etc, but that's too far into the future.

You want cheap, Russian surplus. You want dependable, spend a little bit more.