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lol, I've answered that question half a dozen times already...

Sorry, I did not read the full thread, I was tired. Have you made a purchase, what did you get?

My first handgun was a Taurus PT111 in Stainless and White/grey.



Good looking gun, but can not really hold up to firing 200 rounds through it in a couple hours at the range often.

Luckily, Taurus has a lifetime warranty, so I send it back, they fix it. I have sent it back 3 times.

I did not spend enough money on my first side arm.

Now I carry a revolver. And also have an AK 47.

My lemon pistol was one I picked up for 100 bucks at a gunshow: Llama IX-B. Incompatible with standard 1911 mags, bit the <CENSORED> out of my hand, grip felt like holding on to a brick, sights sucked, trigger sucked, didn't like to lock back on empty, liked to stovepipe or jam the round into the upper wall of the chamber and lock solid, and when it wasn't busy failing it was busy plinking me with hot casings directly in the center of my forehead.

Should have spent 50 bucks more and obtained a Bulgarian makarov. would've been a hundred times better off. But, it was what I could afford and sometimes it even went bang, so....

Nowadays I am in the camp of Buy-Once-Cry-Once, and when I have the thought "Gee, that would be perfect...but its a little out of my price range..." I adjust my <CENSORED> price range.

Melissia wrote:So if I were hypothetically to get the compact P250 (it depends on which feels most comfortable in my hand) I should probably get it in .357 SIG?

Whatever you do, don't get a P250. They're incredibly unreliable. There's a reason that AIM Surplus is selling them for $360 ea. and they've been in stock for months now...nobody wants them.

1911's are cool and everything but honestly I'd stay away from them too. Most 1911s don't work well with hollowpoints and it's very difficult to get them working properly. They were designed at a time when parts were hand-fitted and don't really lend themselves to modern machining practices.



Now that the XDM has come out, you could probably get an XD for around $350, used Glocks for around $350, and other polymer pistols in the same ballpark. Their triggers aren't nearly as nice as a good 1911 trigger but you can buy with confidence that you're going to get something that runs out of the box and will eat most modern ammunition. Other good options that won't break the bank are Ruger's P85-series guns (built like bricks, very reliable, but very heavy), CZs (P01s are very heavy but very very nice), and newer M&Ps (don't buy the old ones, they have glass strikers). M&Ps in particular are nice because you can tailor the backstrap to what you want, though 4th gen Glocks will give you the same features more or less.


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assultmarine wrote:whilst wer'e on the subject of fire-arms, how did you all learn to shoot?

Israel Defense Forces sharpshooter course was a hell of a practice run, but mom started me shooting when I was 6.

NuggzTheNinja wrote:Whatever you do, don't get a P250. They're incredibly unreliable.

You're the first I've read to say somethign like this.

Melissia wrote:

NuggzTheNinja wrote:Whatever you do, don't get a P250. They're incredibly unreliable.

You're the first I've read to say somethign like this.

Please don't take my word for it!

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=420718

"Sig Sauer filed an appeal with the ATF about the Sig P250 being eliminated early from the testing. However, the ATF has now rejected their appeal, and only S&W and Glock are going to the final evaluation stage.

In rejecting the Sig Sauer appeal, the ATF noted the following from their agent test results:

11 of the 20 test shooters experienced stoppages with Sig Sauer's handguns--in some cases, as many as 10 stoppages."

Other peoples' opinions...

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=71295

http://www.ak47.net/mobile/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1211109&page=1

Hypothetically let's say that JW777 was on the range with some guys who hypothetically know about a hypothetical government agency that's hypothetically testing some handguns to look at hypothetically purchasing a bunch of 'em. Hypothetically let's say that the P250 came up in a hypothetical conversation...and hypothetically the conversation wandered to the hypothetical incident report sheets and hypothetically how the hypothetical testers ran out of forms to document the hypothetical malfunctions being experienced by the P250.

...hypothetically.

So now that we had that neat academic exercise...wasn't that fun?...my advice is to run, not walk, away from the idea of a P250. Drive a railroad spike through the part of your brain that is infatuated with that thing if you must, but for God's sake don't go anywhere near it. Sig has tried to sell that gun all over Europe...and noooobody's buying.

Clue. JW777 regularly shoots with gov't acronym types -nuggz

Just sayin'...

There are so many fantastic guns out there at that price point: why risk it?

That's much better than anecdotal evidence, thanks.