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kenshin620 wrote:

wretrop wrote:

I really dug Space Crusade as a kid! Still have 4 or 5 copies of the game running around somewhere...

And this is why GW never did TV commercials again

ah man! That was the gak back in the early 90's! I particularly like the sheer 'Children Of The Corn' type nastiness of the kid that says 'Dreadnought!'......

Gonna eBay that sucker, have not played it for years!

So what was the difference between "Advanced Space Crusade" (with its scouts infiltrating a hive ship with organic tunnels and rooms and sphincter doors) and Tyranid Attack?

I've also got a copy of "Lost patrol" somewhere.
Card hex tiles, plastic scouts and counters for greeblies.

Nothing really. As far as I know, Tyranid Attack was just Advanced Space Crusade rebranded.

Helbig wrote:Battle Masters for Warhammer Fantasy!! That's what got me into the Hobby.

My dad and I broke that out last Christmas and played quite a few games of it before I headed back to Boston! It's a really simple but fun game.

I played battle masters! was my first actual wargame. also played hero quest. still have some of the pieces for both. only issue we ever had was the ogre not staying together, but mom fixed that with a pink hair band (what? the ogress happened to LIKE her tutu!!)

Helbig wrote:Battle Masters for Warhammer Fantasy!! That's what got me into the Hobby.

Holy crap I remember this game! Played this with a friend in freaking grade school. Thanks for reminding me.

That Space Crusade trailer made me chuckle (bolters making zapping noises, lol). The sad thing is that I remember thinking it was pretty amazing when it was on TV.

Back then those WERE amazing effects.

Kind of like watching Bab 5.

Compared to current digital effects the effects are a bit dodgy, but for its time they were seriously impressive

The genestealer is a bit cuddly though.

Howard A Treesong wrote:The genestealer is a bit cuddly though.

Yes, needs more drool.

Incidentally, I know those skeletal miniatures are androids, but they were remarkably close in look to a certain race that was still some way off being released.

space slaan i think?

The Epic chaos androids were proto-necrons too

Ascalam wrote:space slaan i think?

Nope, definitely Space Crusade Android - or at least, that's what came up when I typed Space Crusade Android into Google Image

The resemblance is uncanny, no?

Ok, looked a bit froggish. Could jsut be the paintjob.

The Chaos Androids are chaos-painted necrons, and that guy is a close match too, you're right

I had a copy of Kerrunch and if I recall, it was pretty good. I seem to remember bastardizing the contents when I got a copy of Blood Bowl proper.

Yep space fleet, keeerunch and ultramarines as well as a fantasy one I can't remember the name of were the 4 GW release ones "for the kids".
Advanced space crusade was more to get the space crusade kids more into 40K (buy our space marine army!!!) but they did release some extra attacker stuff for other armies like the guard and orks I think for both space crusade and advanced space crusade in WD. Then it ofcourse got repacked with some space hulk terminator and genestealer hybrid sprues as tyranid attack. For the price you got a nice amount of models too. Unlike todays amazing all in one set...
Hero quest had advanced heroquest, again something which got a lot of WD coverage back in the day. Forerunner to warhammer quest after GW realised they could do similar again with "added roleplaying section". They really should have stuck with WHFRP though.
I remember battlemasters too, but never got round to picking it up.
I still have space crusade, advanced space crusade, heroquest and advanced heroquest under my bed even after all these years

I think the Chaos Androids were available for Epic too.

Great thread! You folks in the UK had alot more of the GW sub-games than we did on this side of the pond.

I did play Battlemasters, however, and still have it on a shelf. I plan on using it to introduce my son to wargames when he is old enough. In my memory, no other "regular" game came close to Battlemasters when I was a kid.

I also have plans to expand it with additional units, but those kind of projects don't have a good track record of actually happening.

Howard A Treesong wrote:I think the Chaos Androids were available for Epic too.

Certainly are - I have a bunch of them in a box.

As do I, along with tiny epic SM Dreadnoughts that now resemble these guys.

Vermillion wrote:...but they did release some extra attacker stuff for other armies like the guard and orks I think for both space crusade and advanced space crusade in WD.

Yes they did. Issue 145 (Jan '92) has a bunch of Space Crusade stuff, and the issue is billed as a 'Heroquest/Space Crusade' issue. It has a stack of new missions and full rules for Librarians and various types of psychic powers. Amusingly that issue also had the Tyranid army list (by Jervis Johnson and Andy Chambers) for use in Rogue Trader (aka. 1st Ed 40K). Later on, issue 162 (June '93) has rules (by Jervis Johnson) for using Dreadnoughts in Tyranid Attack (aka. Advanced Space Crusade), including rules for Chaos Dreadnoughts, Ork Dreadnoughts, Space Marine Dreadnoughts, Screamer Killers (ie. Carnifexes) and Eldar Dreadnoughts (before they were called Wraithlords).

These are some of the oldest issues of WD I own. I'm amazed I found them...

Wow battlemasters, what a great memory.

I still use the goofy Nid warriors from Tyranid attack hehe

H.B.M.C. wrote:As do I, along with tiny epic SM Dreadnoughts that now resemble these guys.

Vermillion wrote:...but they did release some extra attacker stuff for other armies like the guard and orks I think for both space crusade and advanced space crusade in WD.

Yes they did. Issue 145 (Jan '92) has a bunch of Space Crusade stuff, and the issue is billed as a 'Heroquest/Space Crusade' issue. It has a stack of new missions and full rules for Librarians and various types of psychic powers. Amusingly that issue also had the Tyranid army list (by Jervis Johnson and Andy Chambers) for use in Rogue Trader (aka. 1st Ed 40K). Later on, issue 162 (June '93) has rules (by Jervis Johnson) for using Dreadnoughts in Tyranid Attack (aka. Advanced Space Crusade), including rules for Chaos Dreadnoughts, Ork Dreadnoughts, Space Marine Dreadnoughts, Screamer Killers (ie. Carnifexes) and Eldar Dreadnoughts (before they were called Wraithlords).

These are some of the oldest issues of WD I own. I'm amazed I found them...

Thought 134 had some stuff too? Chucked my WD's in '98 and not bought any since so can't check . But two issues had the space crusade and heroquest slant, one red covered, one blue covered to help you narrow the search

That's right, 134 had extra rules for Space Crusade, Heroquest and Adv. Heroquest.

http://www.gamehobby.net/white_dwarf_magazine/white_dwarf_134.html

Happy days

For those who are nuts for Space Crusade, here's a pretty extensive fan expansion called "rules crusade" that brings it into the wider 40k world and even Necromunda, Gorkamorka, Mordheim and chaos settings.

http://ironhands.com/rcintro.htm

Vermillion wrote:Thought 134 had some stuff too? Chucked my WD's in '98 and not bought any since so can't check . But two issues had the space crusade and heroquest slant, one red covered, one blue covered to help you narrow the search

Ok, that one I don't have. Weirdly I do remember the cover though. Guess I never bought it.

Might see if I actually kept those ones as i kept the games. Doubtful but I did keep the copy of 139 for the advanced heroquest treasure charts so tis possible .

I'm sure I had a spare copy of #139, but I do have a spare of #145.

I mean look at this gak! Space Crusade missions and rules of librarians, pages of psychic cards.

Then there's extra counters for some game called Dragon Masters that clearly passed me by because I don't remember it.

Holy crap now it's an Tyranid and Genestealer army list!! Squig swarms and mind slaves, the lot.

Ooh, here's the Heroquest now. Few maps, rules of ogres and trolls.

And now Advanced Heroquest as well?!! More rules and dungeons.

Then there a few pages covering the new Genestealers and tyranids etc.

If you cut everything out of this issue the magazine would fall apart. It's pretty much cover to cover with goodies.

If anyone is interested in this oldschool goodness, I have a few other old WDs, I'd do a trade for something.










Funny thing is, there's a half page piece advertising for retail staff in this issue of White Dwarf, and there's a picture of a chap call Ed Spettigue who is a manager of the Croyden store. SO I though, I wonder if he's real and what became of him. Well apparently there's not a lot of nice things about him online, he's now head of US retail and to quote one person from 2009...

To the downsizing. Ed Spettigue, the head of US Retail is also known as the assassin. Before he crossed the ocean he had no problem depopulating whole stores or even regions in the UK if he didn't like how something was going. That probably accounts for some of the wave of firings going on right now. Also, based on emails and meeting some of them, alot of the upper management for GW in the US are people that I wouldn't normally want to hang around.

Failing upwards I see.


EDIT: Heh! You were right. Page 52. Hilarious!