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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/04 21:08:55
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Ruthless Interrogator
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Oof, big whiff by the Necrons on turn one. I think they've still got a chance, but it'll be uphill from here. Great batrep as always, eagerly anticipating the rest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/04 22:41:35
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Dakka Veteran
Huntsville, AL
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Man what in the world ... getting the wraiths into charge range of the pali squads??!?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/04 23:00:07
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Huge Hierodule
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Moving wraiths vs enemy assault units is a delicate tap dance to try and assure they get the charge bonus. it's all too easy to misjudge and move a bit too far with them.
I'm eager to see the conclusion of this battle Royale.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/04 23:48:36
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
New York, USA
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Man, it seems Draigo scares the dice gods into submission... Wraiths continue to impress however, can't wait for second wave!
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"Surrender and Die."
"To an Immortal, to one among a legion, honor and your word are all that matter" - Phaeron Orionis of the Brotherhood
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 00:17:24
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Dakka Veteran
Huntsville, AL
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Screw the second wave, I just bought me some of those big snake doods from tomb kings in the fantasy range. Working out pretty sweet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 02:16:45
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Isn't that a 50-60 dollar kit? I think they should just make the models already. Though that is a clever idea I think it is rather expensive for a counts as place holder. Although who knows, the new models may suck lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 02:46:21
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Huge Hierodule
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$54 USD if i recall correctly. $18 per model, which is probably right where a 3 model box will cost. Compare to a Trygon kit, which just makes 1 monstrous creature, and costs nearly $60.
GW is just getting expensive. My army expansion has greatly slowed in the past 2 years.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 03:26:08
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Bounding Assault Marine
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hmm I think going first as the crons was important for another critical reason:
preventing the stormraven from moving 6-12" and blasting the scarabs or whatever out the yazoo to dump all its anti-psycher missisiles (not let Anrakyr have his fun) and possibly preventing a Str8 Ap1 shot from the Potms onto one of the doom scythes.
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Gwar: "Of course 99.999% of players don't even realise this, and even I am not THAT much of an ass to call on it (unless the guy was a total dick or a Scientologist, but that's just me)"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 03:48:12
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Dakka Veteran
Huntsville, AL
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Well I get 30% off, I work weekend at the flgs teaching paint. I am pretty pissed second wave has not hit or even been given a date yet. Wouldnt it be nice for all these wraithwing lists?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 05:29:54
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Bounding Assault Marine
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I'm not too jazzing for that to happen just yet myself. I own 18 old wraiths, 10 tomby spyders, ....er.. lots of scarabs... well over 200 necron warriors... er..lots of destroyers... a few destroyer lords... and hmm maybe ten or so necron lords and 15 pariah (now cryptech models).
oh. and 15 immortals.
I enjoy being able to use my stuff while I can because I'm sure I'm going to get screamed down at tourneys into using whatever new ghastly models they come up with.
oh... pro tip: use the ancient destroyer models (jetbikes) for doomblades. They're epic fun.
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Gwar: "Of course 99.999% of players don't even realise this, and even I am not THAT much of an ass to call on it (unless the guy was a total dick or a Scientologist, but that's just me)"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 06:41:59
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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If I had 18 old wraiths I would not buy any of the new ones regardless of what they look like. I like the old ones and they will always be legal.
Yea I laughed when I saw the art for the tomb blades, my bro and I were disappointing that the artwork looked like the old models pitched forwards.
Kind of surprised this report hasn't progressed at all yet. Though the outlook looks pretty trivial now that the paladins have already dealt with the wraiths.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 07:50:48
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Fixture of Dakka
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I apologize for the wait, but I came back very late today so didn't have time to work on the report. I will probably try to get in a couple of turns tonight before I go to sleep and finish it tomorrow morning.
As a little treat, I would like to introduce to you my new Wraith conversions (from the Tomb King Sepulchral Stalkers). 6 down....6 more to go.
The Dragon wrote:hmm I think going first as the crons was important for another critical reason:
preventing the stormraven from moving 6-12" and blasting the scarabs or whatever out the yazoo to dump all its anti-psycher missisiles (not let Anrakyr have his fun) and possibly preventing a Str8 Ap1 shot from the Potms onto one of the doom scythes.
Yeah, that's another reason (though a minor one) to go first. You want to make sure the doom scythes get first strike. Going second and you risk losing 1 as the stormraven can move 24" and PotMS one of the doom scythes to death or the opponent rolls high for their Night-fight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 07:56:06
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Nasty Nob
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No worries  Now that I understand how you batreps work and get posted - theyre a lot of fun. I like the pre-game hype and analyses.
Those Wraiths blend in nicely with the Necron Feng Shui - especially their Warsythes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 08:44:25
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 09:24:38
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Sweet! Me likey likey.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 12:21:51
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Rogue
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Epic wraiths by the way do any of you have a clue when the triarch stalkers come out? (I need two for 1500 point army)
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"I'm making a Tau army in Warhammer 40k, is this a good idea?" No tau army's a good idea
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 13:45:25
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Tower of Power
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Today is Thursday, well it is in my time zone!
How you finding the Wraiths?
I also wouldn't say Grey Knights are the strongest army at the moment. That award goes to Imperial Guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 15:34:16
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Battle report completed.
nurglerulesslaneshdrools wrote:Epic wraiths
by the way do any of you have a clue when the triarch stalkers come out?
(I need two for 1500 point army)
They're saying the next release, though no one knows when exactly that will be.
mercer wrote:Today is Thursday, well it is in my time zone!
How you finding the Wraiths?
I also wouldn't say Grey Knights are the strongest army at the moment. That award goes to Imperial Guard.
I guess people will never agree on the top armies. It's usually one of the 3 - IG, SW or GK. That's also why I usually preface these type of statements with "arguably", "possibly", "probably" and "perhaps".
Wraiths are just awesome. IMO, they are the best unit in the codex and the strongest necron lists will use some form of "wraithwing".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 15:40:56
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Wow. Great job even with those two big mistakes (Wraiths getting assaulted and forgetting to fire mindstrikes) you tabled the GKs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 15:48:11
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Huge Hierodule
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Great game!
About those sepulcheral Stalkers, what part was a 'converson'? I know the actual models are big snakes, did you just take part of the bits and make them look submerged in the ground?(representing wraithflight, i like it if so).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 15:50:25
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Fixture of Dakka
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It helped that the 5-man paladin squad and Draigo were failing in assault (and that my wraiths were making their saves) and also that 2 of my units (Overlord and 1 cryptek) actually got back up from Reanimation Protocols. That helped a lot.
Automatically Appended Next Post: tetrisphreak wrote:Great game!
About those sepulcheral Stalkers, what part was a 'converson'? I know the actual models are big snakes, did you just take part of the bits and make them look submerged in the ground?(representing wraithflight, i like it if so).
Yeah, that's exactly right. I made them seem as if they were phasing/tunneling through the ground. Not really a whole lot of converting so it was quite easy to do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 15:57:52
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Its great to see Xenos (Especially Necrons, who generally lack in CC) Wipe out paladins, I feel significant pride in being a Xenos player, and I hope that Eldar and Tau are as good as the new Necrons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:01:31
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Huge Hierodule
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Lord Magnus wrote:Its great to see Xenos (Especially Necrons, who generally lack in CC) Wipe out paladins, I feel significant pride in being a Xenos player, and I hope that Eldar and Tau are as good as the new Necrons.
Seconded! I have a tau army that is gathering dust as i Paint up my necrons. I'd love to have 2 armies that are both worth putting on the table and using. I've lost all hope for my 'nids until 6th edition, and even then I'm not sure it'll help much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:01:52
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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jy2 wrote:Yeah, that's exactly right. I made them seem as if they were phasing/tunneling through the ground. Not really a whole lot of converting so it was quite easy to do.
I dunno, I know you have them all finished up at this point, but I would have liked to see more conversion in there. Right now they basically just look like Tomb Kings models in your 40k army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:03:02
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Rogue
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/01/05 16:03:52
"I'm making a Tau army in Warhammer 40k, is this a good idea?" No tau army's a good idea
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:03:58
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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nurglerulesslaneshdrools wrote:the only good tau combat units are kroot
In this codex. I think the point is that there might be new and different units in the new one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:04:28
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Huge Hierodule
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pretre wrote:jy2 wrote:Yeah, that's exactly right. I made them seem as if they were phasing/tunneling through the ground. Not really a whole lot of converting so it was quite easy to do.
I dunno, I know you have them all finished up at this point, but I would have liked to see more conversion in there. Right now they basically just look like Tomb Kings models in your 40k army.
I don't see what else he could really do to make them more necron-y other than a head swap or something.
Honestly though Necrons ARE tomb kings with tech, so to me it fits the theme of the army just fine. I wouldn't have any problem with someone using those models to represent wraiths, especially while the kit is nowhere to be seen (hopefully 2nd wave).
Until i know for sure wraiths are or aren't getting a new sculpt, i'll just keep using my 6 that i have from the old codex. Not a true wraith-wing but a great counter-assault unit addition to any necron list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:06:22
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Rogue
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nurglerulesslaneshdrools wrote:Epic wraiths
by the way do any of you have a clue when the triarch stalkers come out?
(I need two for 1500 point army)
They're saying the next release, though no one knows when exactly that will be.
thanks mate
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:06:58
Subject: The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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tetrisphreak wrote:I don't see what else he could really do to make them more necron-y other than a head swap or something.
Honestly though Necrons ARE tomb kings with tech, so to me it fits the theme of the army just fine. I wouldn't have any problem with someone using those models to represent wraiths, especially while the kit is nowhere to be seen (hopefully 2nd wave).
Oh, I would have absolutely no problem playing against them. I think they look fine. They just feel out of place currently.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/05 16:07:06
Subject: Re:The Grey Knight Challenge Part I - 2K MTO Necrons vs Draigowing! (Coming Wednesday)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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nice batrep but i'm not surprised that your "new necron list" won. i say this because there is a rather game changing rules issue that led to the Draigowing list being "target saturated" when it shouldn't have been.
now i'm no rules guru but how in the world do you rule that the necron warriors and ajoined crypteks don't remain one unit (under it's original deployed unit strength) just because one model has a rule that lets it stand back up? that kind of rules mongering is exactly why people stop playing against certain people who bend rules in their favor whenever it "can" benefit them. you can sight, "show me proof" but the same can be said against you...the burden of proof would be to show me how a model that joins another unit and cannot be seperated or distinguished from that unit (as an IC could) can somehow not count against a unit when it would matter? not only did you get an extra scoring unit out of the rules lawyering but you ended up with x2 scoring units when they should have just ran off the board! no need for killing, shooting, assaulting whatsoever.
I'm not entirely sure what effect it would have made on the game but not having those warriors rapid firing, swinging in CC, being in the way, etc make this game's resault void in my opinion. I think it could have been a draw at best for the GKs however.
The good and bad from the rep, in my eyes of course:
1) the flyers harrassed and getting first turn meant they got to do something positive other than harrassing.
2) the barges were not harassed and went on their merry way. very impressed with them. almost scared of them.
3) Draigo and paladins losing/tieing back to back combats vs. ID able targets is a laugher but not unheard of.
4) Mindstrikes should have been fired off by either player.
5) the ammount of 1's rolled by those Staves in CC had to of been horribly high.
6) good, close battle...all the more reason why the rules choice was a complete shame.
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