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TheAngrySquig wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:It's a captain in power armour with a thunder hammer, those aren't going to be uncommon in the IoM, so I dont think you can really say that it's based on that guy, especially seeing as they're from two completely seperate chapters

Thunderhammers are extremely rare what are you talking about?

Thunder hammers are rare, and yet there is more than one of them and more than one captain that carries them.

They are rare. Only heroes that prove themselves in combat can use one. Its just in the game people use them all the time. But in the fluff they are rarely seen.

And never mind, he took a few terminators with him, that's clearly enough to fight a full black crusade and live, I stand corrected #Sarcasm

TheAngrySquig wrote:It's a captain in power armour with a thunder hammer, those aren't going to be uncommon in the IoM, so I dont think you can really say that it's based on that guy, especially seeing as they're from two completely seperate chapters

Thats only painted as a Ultramarine the modle itself hasnt got any chapter defineing emblems and I assure you it has everything is the same.

The hammer is the same, chest emblem is the same, the shoulder pauldrons are the same, the pistols holster is the same, the scroll on his left leg is the same, Even the Head is similar only hes in a yelling stance.

Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:It's a captain in power armour with a thunder hammer, those aren't going to be uncommon in the IoM, so I dont think you can really say that it's based on that guy, especially seeing as they're from two completely seperate chapters

Thunderhammers are extremely rare what are you talking about?

Thunder hammers are rare, and yet there is more than one of them and more than one captain that carries them.

They are rare. Only heroes that prove themselves in combat can use one. Its just in the game people use them all the time. But in the fluff they are rarely seen.

Rarely seen does not equal only one. The eldar are rarely seen, but there's more than one of them

TheAngrySquig wrote:And never mind, he took a few terminators with him, that's clearly enough to fight a full black crusade and live, I stand corrected #Sarcasm

It was only one ship dude.

Plus the Gamesday model was fanatastic I gave him a mk8 helmet
Though sadly he broke off his stand he was going to get painted up.

And yes terminators in the fluff = op.


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TheAngrySquig wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:It's a captain in power armour with a thunder hammer, those aren't going to be uncommon in the IoM, so I dont think you can really say that it's based on that guy, especially seeing as they're from two completely seperate chapters

Thunderhammers are extremely rare what are you talking about?

Thunder hammers are rare, and yet there is more than one of them and more than one captain that carries them.

They are rare. Only heroes that prove themselves in combat can use one. Its just in the game people use them all the time. But in the fluff they are rarely seen.

Rarely seen does not equal only one. The eldar are rarely seen, but there's more than one of them

You have never read the space marine fluff have you?

Yak9UT wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:It's a captain in power armour with a thunder hammer, those aren't going to be uncommon in the IoM, so I dont think you can really say that it's based on that guy, especially seeing as they're from two completely seperate chapters

Thats only painted as a Ultramarine the modle itself hasnt got any chapter defineing emblems and I assure you it has everything is the same.

The hammer is the same, chest emblem is the same, the shoulder pauldrons are the same, the pistols holster is the same, the scroll on his left leg is the same, Even the Head is similar only hes in a yelling stance.

The gigantic U on his shoulder is pretty clear chapter iconography, and have you ever heard of standard equipment? I'm sure that there are hundreds of thunder hammers that look like that, being from the same forge world or what ever


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Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:And never mind, he took a few terminators with him, that's clearly enough to fight a full black crusade and live, I stand corrected #Sarcasm

It was only one ship dude.

Plus the Gamesday model was fanatastic I gave him a mk8 helmet
Though sadly he broke off his stand he was going to get painted up.

And yes terminators in the fluff = op.

I'll consent to that, still think he should have waited for reinforcements rather than being an irational hot head, but whatever

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TheAngrySquig wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:It's a captain in power armour with a thunder hammer, those aren't going to be uncommon in the IoM, so I dont think you can really say that it's based on that guy, especially seeing as they're from two completely seperate chapters

Thunderhammers are extremely rare what are you talking about?

Thunder hammers are rare, and yet there is more than one of them and more than one captain that carries them.

They are rare. Only heroes that prove themselves in combat can use one. Its just in the game people use them all the time. But in the fluff they are rarely seen.

Rarely seen does not equal only one. The eldar are rarely seen, but there's more than one of them

You have never read the space marine fluff have you?

You've never read any of the 40k fluff have you ?

TheAngrySquig wrote:

Yak9UT wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:It's a captain in power armour with a thunder hammer, those aren't going to be uncommon in the IoM, so I dont think you can really say that it's based on that guy, especially seeing as they're from two completely seperate chapters

Thats only painted as a Ultramarine the modle itself hasnt got any chapter defineing emblems and I assure you it has everything is the same.

The hammer is the same, chest emblem is the same, the shoulder pauldrons are the same, the pistols holster is the same, the scroll on his left leg is the same, Even the Head is similar only hes in a yelling stance.

The gigantic U on his shoulder is pretty clear chapter iconography, and have you ever heard of standard equipment? I'm sure that there are hundreds of thunder hammers that look like that, being from the same forge world or what ever

thats not part of the model....
It has a thunderhammer.
It was painted as an ultramarine.
There were only so many of those models out there.....
And thunderhammers in the fluff again. ARE RARE!


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TheAngrySquig wrote:
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Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:And never mind, he took a few terminators with him, that's clearly enough to fight a full black crusade and live, I stand corrected #Sarcasm

It was only one ship dude.

Plus the Gamesday model was fanatastic I gave him a mk8 helmet
Though sadly he broke off his stand he was going to get painted up.

And yes terminators in the fluff = op.

I'll consent to that, still think he should have waited for reinforcements rather than being an irational hot head, but whatever

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TheAngrySquig wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:It's a captain in power armour with a thunder hammer, those aren't going to be uncommon in the IoM, so I dont think you can really say that it's based on that guy, especially seeing as they're from two completely seperate chapters

Thunderhammers are extremely rare what are you talking about?

Thunder hammers are rare, and yet there is more than one of them and more than one captain that carries them.

They are rare. Only heroes that prove themselves in combat can use one. Its just in the game people use them all the time. But in the fluff they are rarely seen.

Rarely seen does not equal only one. The eldar are rarely seen, but there's more than one of them

You have never read the space marine fluff have you?

You've never read any of the 40k fluff have you ?

My point is proven
Thunderhammers are not mass produced. They are only given to individuals who deserved the entitlement of the thunderhammer.
The pictured Captain is based on the model produced on gamesday, and could be painted anyother color.
SO FOR THIS PICTURE! It was painted as an imperial fist. Using similar traits and then add some imperial fist stuff and boom. And Space marines are not uncommon, They are rare. And Eldar are more common than space marines.

The gigantic U on his shoulder is pretty clear chapter iconography, and have you ever heard of standard equipment? I'm sure that there are hundreds of thunder hammers that look like that, being from the same forge world or what ever

The model dosent have one! I have the model on my desk right now there is no U on it!



Wheres the U?

Oh that's a model? Sorry I got confused, I though it was one custom thing, I get it now.

And Asherian Command- Thunder hammers are given to people who have proved themselves in some way, captains have proved themselves. It is not startling for a captain to have a thunder hammer in any way. And there are about a million space marines, the Eldar are no longer that size because they all got eaten in the Fall

TheAngrySquig wrote:Oh that's a model? Sorry I got confused, I though it was one custom thing, I get it now.

And Asherian Command- Thunder hammers are given to people who have proved themselves in some way, captains have proved themselves. It is not startling for a captain to have a thunder hammer in any way. And there are about a million space marines, the Eldar are no longer that size because they all got eaten in the Fall

There are still quite a few more than a million, squig.

Also, you don't seem to grasp how rare THs are. They are probably 1-3, maybe a bit more in some chapters, with some chapters probably not having any. Obviously there are exceptions like Salamanders where they happen to be a lot more common, but still.

Including Dark Eldar, maybe, but theyre deffinitley not many. And are you saying 1-3 per chapter, or 1-3 at all?

TheAngrySquig wrote:Including Dark Eldar, maybe, but theyre deffinitley not many. And are you saying 1-3 per chapter, or 1-3 at all?

1-3 per chapter, I am not daft enough to think there are 3 in the whole imperium!

And even without dark Eldar, there would still be quite a few million of craftworld eldar.

Ok, 1-3 per chapter I can agree with, overall probably near 3000. And I'm not so sure about there being many millions of CWE, they're very small

wait, what about TH/SS termi squads?

Obsidian Raven wrote:wait, what about TH/SS termi squads?

Wait, good point, are those in fluff or just a game unit?

TheAngrySquig wrote:

Obsidian Raven wrote:wait, what about TH/SS termi squads?

Wait, good point, are those in fluff or just a game unit?

Game unit.

Even the most TH heavy chapters (Salamanders for example) would only ever put them all in one squad as a show of force. The same way you won't ACTUALLY see a BA company with 11 dreads in it.

Or 30 Death Company with them. I get that units like that are ridiculous, but I think a captain with one is far from unrealistic

Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:Because we all know how good Dorn is in a boarding actions

plus they never found his body. He wasn't confirmed in being dead. All they found was his hand, and only one imperial fist came back but he bore a body that was not the same size of the Primarch it is rumored he was captured.

They found him.
He is oh so very dead.
As dead as a very dead thing.
Dead as a dodo dancing at a disco.
Dead.
Deeeeeeeaaaaaad.
Dead.
Very dead.
100% dead.

Yeah, hes dead, we all know that

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:Because we all know how good Dorn is in a boarding actions

plus they never found his body. He wasn't confirmed in being dead. All they found was his hand, and only one imperial fist came back but he bore a body that was not the same size of the Primarch it is rumored he was captured.

They found him.
He is oh so very dead.
As dead as a very dead thing.
Dead as a dodo dancing at a disco.
Dead.
Deeeeeeeaaaaaad.
Dead.
Very dead.
100% dead.

lol NOPE.

One version has one of his hands being found and nothing else, the other has A body found.

One story is correct

purplefood wrote:
They found him.
He is oh so very dead.
As dead as a very dead thing.
Dead as a dodo dancing at a disco.
Dead.
Deeeeeeeaaaaaad.
Dead.
Very dead.
100% dead.

Blimey! So he's still alive you say?

I thought he was dead....

He's having tea at the Emperors side now

TheAngrySquig wrote:He's having tea at the Emperors side now

NOOO

INCORRECT

EVEN IF HE WERE DEAD HE WOULD NEVER DRINK TEA. NOT MANLY ENOUGH, HE DOES HAVE A MOUSTACHE AFTER ALL!!!

Asherian Command wrote:Dorn did not have white hair!

Actually, according to all of his appearances in the Horus Heresy novels, yes he did.

Asherian Command wrote:Thunderhammers are extremely rare what are you talking about?

Source? Codex: Space Marines certainly says nothing of the sort, and the Space Hulk rulebook quite specifically states that whole Terminator squads are routinely armed with thunder hammers.

Asherian Command wrote:plus they never found his body. He wasn't confirmed in being dead. All they found was his hand, and only one imperial fist came back but he bore a body that was not the same size of the Primarch it is rumored he was captured.

Source? Index Astartes quite simply states that an Imperial counter-attack recovered the Primarch's remains.

im2randomghgh wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:He's having tea at the Emperors side now

NOOO

INCORRECT

EVEN IF HE WERE DEAD HE WOULD NEVER DRINK TEA. NOT MANLY ENOUGH, HE DOES HAVE A MOUSTACHE AFTER ALL!!!

Ah but you forget he drinks tea like a hardcore son of a git, he just eats the teabag to add flavor to the ribs and other such man food

TheAngrySquig wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:He's having tea at the Emperors side now

NOOO

INCORRECT

EVEN IF HE WERE DEAD HE WOULD NEVER DRINK TEA. NOT MANLY ENOUGH, HE DOES HAVE A MOUSTACHE AFTER ALL!!!

Ah but you forget he drinks tea like a hardcore son of a git, he just eats the teabag to add flavor to the ribs and other such man food

Teabag in blood=Primarch approved.

Basically, he drinks old spice tea

English Assassin wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:Dorn did not have white hair!

Actually, according to all of his appearances in the Horus Heresy novels, yes he did.

Asherian Command wrote:Thunderhammers are extremely rare what are you talking about?

Source? Codex: Space Marines certainly says nothing of the sort, and the Space Hulk rulebook quite specifically states that whole Terminator squads are routinely armed with thunder hammers.

Asherian Command wrote:plus they never found his body. He wasn't confirmed in being dead. All they found was his hand, and only one imperial fist came back but he bore a body that was not the same size of the Primarch it is rumored he was captured.

Source? Index Astartes quite simply states that an Imperial counter-attack recovered the Primarch's remains.

Hey English. Let me tell you something.
I have the Same Index, It says a body that was thought to be Dorn's was recovered. there is still a possibility that Dorn is still alive.

Thunderhammers yes according to every book that has ever had a thunderhammer have always called them extremely rare. Space Marine which is offical canon even said that the Thunderhammer is a very rare artifact of the Space Marines.

Space Hulk rulebook quite specifically states that whole Terminator squads

Wow. You just shot yourself in the foot.
Terminator Squads are extremely rare. It matters on the chapter especially. Ultramarines they used to be able to deploy an entire company of terminators before most of them were destroyed in Tyranic Wars (Read battle of macragge)
Terminators are so rare. Its hilarious when you say that the Space Hulk Rulebook says entire squads of terminators can be equipped. Well no duh. Terminators are the elite of the chapter. Of course they would be given thunderhammers. But it is extremely rare to even have 5 entire squads of terminators with thunder hammers.
Then let us not forget that Dorn has be described in almost every single haircolor. I've always pictured him with a blonde/whitish look. He is still blonde but it is mostly white hair.


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im2randomghgh wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:Because we all know how good Dorn is in a boarding actions

plus they never found his body. He wasn't confirmed in being dead. All they found was his hand, and only one imperial fist came back but he bore a body that was not the same size of the Primarch it is rumored he was captured.

They found him.
He is oh so very dead.
As dead as a very dead thing.
Dead as a dodo dancing at a disco.
Dead.
Deeeeeeeaaaaaad.
Dead.
Very dead.
100% dead.

lol NOPE.

One version has one of his hands being found and nothing else, the other has A body found.

Yeah I read that too. There is always a mystery with 40k Primarchs of course I am one of those people that say Corax committed suicide and Alpharius is still alive.


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TheAngrySquig wrote:Or 30 Death Company with them. I get that units like that are ridiculous, but I think a captain with one is far from unrealistic

Death company are again rare. They may be a game unit. And they may be able to take one. But that is ridiciliously expensive.
Of course a captain can dual-wield thunderhammers.

im2randomghgh wrote:

TheAngrySquig wrote:He's having tea at the Emperors side now

NOOO

INCORRECT

EVEN IF HE WERE DEAD HE WOULD NEVER DRINK TEA. NOT MANLY ENOUGH, HE DOES HAVE A MOUSTACHE AFTER ALL!!!

40K is british.

of course he would drink tea.