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While the game seems to repel most females, not everyone is. My sister absolutely adores CSMs, although she seems to have a thing for Nurgle...
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.'
Yeah, and you can't discount the slow but steady rise of the nerd chic chick. Women have been getting into roleplaying (not that kind), anime (likewise), and a bunch of other nerdy things that were once the pure domain of socially awkward guys. It wouldn't surprise me if we start seeing a slow but steady rise in female wargammers as well.
Ailaros wrote:Yeah, and you can't discount the slow but steady rise of the nerd chic chick. Women have been getting into roleplaying (not that kind), anime (likewise), and a bunch of other nerdy things that were once the pure domain of socially awkward guys. It wouldn't surprise me if we start seeing a slow but steady rise in female wargammers as well.
Nothing wrong with that...in fact I'm a bit disappointed whenever someone says that 40k isn't for women. I expected we'd be above such petty ideas.
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.'
Hello all! I love the fact that this thread has gained so much attention and I'd like to introduce myself. I am the OP's wife I have just recently begun learning 40k and I am beginning with the Ork army. Please excuse any improper terminology as I have quite literally just begun playing. I brought up the fact that this hobby could have the potential to bring in more females if there were more female models. We discussed the possible profitability of sculpting breasts out of green stuff and had a laugh. From this I have gained some insight and some of the lines of thought are disturbing but all are helpful!
kronk wrote:Considering orks grow from fungus and not breeding, there's no need for male or female "parts", are there?
I've seen some IG "female" bits in the form of some catachan models from GW and some 3rd party bits. Dark Eldar have female characters and several troop bits.
I would bet money that the next Cadian set would have them. Not sure why the current set doesn't.
Awesome! I appreciate that there are some female troops and bits available to mod with, however your first statement does make a lot of sense as far as the orkz go. My only complaint is that they are distinctly labeled as "boyz" which thusly engenders them. My other line of thinking is that being plant life and having that as the explanation, could they be a bit more androgynous? They are clearly males, so maybe that extra fungus downstairs could migrate North a half inch or so?
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Harriticus wrote:Hopeless cause this hobby and ladies will never go together no matter what you do
Yeah, this.
They don't mix at all, except in rare cases. The old Arundel Mills GW had a lady working there. She was pretty cool, and took her hobby seriously, but I don't think I've ever met another serious female gamer.
The first bit makes me sad. This is the type of thinking that excludes us initially and drives us away if we dare tread on your territory. The second bit is encouraging but still sad. There should be many examples of women that are into gaming, but I do feel that there is a lot of adversity that we face when entering your sanctuaries.
Actinium wrote:Space marines by fluff can't be girls so the vast majority of armies being played and models being made can't be girls.
There's a few concessions to gender diversity in the fighting forces, shadowsun, deamonettes, sisters, banshees, half the guardian/dire avenger torsos have tatas, etc.
Totally understand the inability for Space Marine ladies, and I am excited to hear that there are some female models that you can think of easily. I would love to see some of these!
Testify wrote:Girls who ARE into 40k stay away from the GW shops because they're full of neckbeards who'll stare at them.
But there are some.
Sadly, this is true of most game stores. I went to our local store to meet some of the guys my husband was playing D&D with and one of them swept low and tried to take my hand to kiss it while saying, "Enchante". The rest of them just stopped what they were playing and there was about 15 seconds of silence as I made my way through. I feel excessively uncomfortable being there, but if the guys would stop looking at me as a female and just be accepting of the gaming part, they might be able to get to know me. This is true of all female gamers. We are into the same things you are. If you can show that you are interested in talking about commonalities as opposed to being preoccupied by my boobs, we may get along quite well. However, we can't get to that point if the guys glom onto us like we are a collector's edition figure or worse, stare at us as though attempting to summon us to them with Jedi mind powers.
Soccerlfb6 wrote:...all girls want is money...u spend a ton on this hobby...itll piss em off and c it as a waste...end of story ur money goes to them not models..
Wow. Actually, a lot of girls want a guy who can spell and speak properly. I see this as being a reply from a very bitter person and I am sorry that your experiences have hardened you. Did you actually read the OP?
TedNugent wrote:
Soccerlfb6 wrote:...all girls want is money...u spend a ton on this hobby...itll piss em off and c it as a waste...end of story ur money goes to them not models..
Exactly. Women like diamonds and shiz.
Again, I am sorry that you share this sad point of view. This is an expensive hobby, but I take pride in saying that my husband is a stay at home dad and I have financed all of his figures. as he said when I showed him this post, "These are my diamonds!" I must agree whole heartedly <3
Meade wrote:
TedNugent wrote:
Think hard, here. Is this for men or for women?
Both. Women love imagining themselves as attractive just as much as we men do, they like to feel sexy and powerful, not look like men for the most part. I doubt many militant feminist lesbians play this game anyway.
But 40k would be awesome for having more female, black, and asian models in it. ANGRY ones.
While I would agree that both sexes enjoy being attractive imagining themselves as such, I would have to say those models are for men. When my husband first started looking at the different armies he found these and showed them to me. I appreciate them, but I can't say I would ever play them. I find them to be masculine and intended to appeal to men who have dom fetishes. They are much to hard and they are even postured like men. On the other hand, I would love to also see racial diversity. It is not just the way you paint your models but in the unique facial features as well!
Mr Nobody wrote:Tau could have plenty of female models, maybe they just look very similar to males. Add all that armour and no one can tell the difference.
Good point! Although, as my husband pointed out, my play style is more balls to the wall which is well suited to the Boyz.
Ailaros wrote:The main problem is that women haven't traditionally been warriors in most places at most times throughout history. Not only does this mean that it will culturally drive men rather than women to play a war game (and thus the company will want to make their product relatable to their main demographic), but it makes it much easier to just assume that everyone is male.
Of course, your hubby can always make an all-female army. As mentioned, there are conversion kits for guard, SoB is obviously all ladies, and it's also very possible to make an all-female eldar army, as not only is there blatantly female units, but guardians come with male and female torsos, making it pretty easy to kitbash. Likewise, there are plenty of female options for dark eldar as well.
If she wants the orks, though, just give them lipstick, and, well...
It's not that hard to have ladies in a 40k army.
This made me laugh so hard!! Thank you!
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Gymnogyps wrote:The whole thing is circular. Women don't play, there are relatively few female models. What came first? Doesn't matter, it is what it is. If GW could be convinced they could expand to include females as customers (themselves, not buying for a male), we would likely see more female models. But trying to integrate females into this hobby is difficult.
Ya'll are forgetting what happens when a female does play. Not only is she stared at, she is treated like prey. There inevitably is one or more dude who will not back off on demanding her attention. Makes any woman uncomfortable. Then there are the jerks who just have to "help". Constant, non stop, condescending remarks. Why play a game just to be treated like an idiot?
There are creative intelligent women who would be interested, such as those who play wow, d&d, etc. But not with the treatment they experience from the males in the hobby.
This is a major problem! We are constantly being lorded over and being treated as inferior or even stupid. Someone asked me if I was comfortable playing because it was something that smart guys play. I was so hurt. I realized that in some people's eyes not only was my gender holding me back but that they thought I was not clever or intelligent enough to play war games...
Grey Templar wrote:Hobbywise, this just isn't something your typical female is going to be interested in. There are a few here and there but it is a male centric hobby by attribute.
Modelwise,
Tau: There is almost no outward physical difference between male and female Tau, certaintly none that would show through the armor they wear.
Eldar and Dark Eldar: The model ranges are about 60/40 male female.
Space Marines: The process only works on males.
Orks: As a species they are asexual. No male or female.
Nids: Similer to orks, they are devoid of sexual definitions. You could see Termagants and Tervigons as being Female because they do reproduce but overall the Nids are devoid of this sort of thing. Genestealers hijack whatever reproduction system their targets happen to have so they would have females with certain races.
IG: This is due to GW not making plastic female sculpts. Some of the older ranges had some female models. There is also a partial fluff reason, women are seen as more valuable for making babies then as soldiers. On some planets the only women in the IG are those who are unable to have children. Even Cadia, a planet that is 100% militarized, keeps it's women close to home so the birth rate can be maintained.
Thank you for this! I love learning about lore no matter what realm, so I found this interesting and I want to look into IG now.
Tadashi wrote:
Ailaros wrote:Yeah, and you can't discount the slow but steady rise of the nerd chic chick. Women have been getting into roleplaying (not that kind), anime (likewise), and a bunch of other nerdy things that were once the pure domain of socially awkward guys. It wouldn't surprise me if we start seeing a slow but steady rise in female wargammers as well.
Nothing wrong with that...in fact I'm a bit disappointed whenever someone says that 40k isn't for women. I expected we'd be above such petty ideas.
I have also heard this, and it is very discouraging. I mean, doesn't every guy that is into war gaming or any other subculture hobby want more females around so that they can find someone who can relate to what they are into? It's entirely counterintuitive to furthering the nerd species to exclude us
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Fang, son of Great Fang, the traitor we seek, The laws of the brethren say this: That only the king sees the crown of the gods, And he, the usurper, must die.
Mother earth is pregnant for the third time, for y'all have knocked her up. I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe, but I was not offended. For I knew I had to rise above it all, or drown in my own gak.
Fang, son of Great Fang, the traitor we seek, The laws of the brethren say this: That only the king sees the crown of the gods, And he, the usurper, must die.
Mother earth is pregnant for the third time, for y'all have knocked her up. I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe, but I was not offended. For I knew I had to rise above it all, or drown in my own gak.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
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Testify wrote:Somewhat OT but they're both somewhat masculine and unattractive.
Like you'd kick either of them out of bed.
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kitsunecutie wrote:... If you can show that you are interested in talking about commonalities as opposed to being preoccupied by my boobs, we may get along quite well.
Here is a hint. All straight males are " preoccupied by boobs" It is in our nature, we can not help it...
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My mom made a similar comment about the WHFB Dwarf range when I was showing it to her on GW's website. I was curious to see if she'd be interested enough in the dwarves for me to start up a Dwarf army for her to use when we play WHFB instead of our usual WH40k, since I know she likes dwarves.
Fortunately, my mom and I don't play with anyone else, so it would be quite feasible for me to pick up some female dwarf minis from Reaper Miniatures and use them here and there in place of GW dwarves.
kitsunecutie wrote:
While I would agree that both sexes enjoy being attractive imagining themselves as such, I would have to say those models are for men. When my husband first started looking at the different armies he found these and showed them to me. I appreciate them, but I can't say I would ever play them. I find them to be masculine and intended to appeal to men who have dom fetishes. They are much to hard and they are even postured like men. On the other hand, I would love to also see racial diversity. It is not just the way you paint your models but in the unique facial features as well!
Lol, they are battle sisters after all... in a sexist, racist, totalitarian, grimdark future... they need to be a bit tough. I suppose that a better way to make my point is to say that every woman is different, period. There are even women with dom fetishes. It's a bit of a niche market to be sure, but that's why you have space elves! Anyway I think there are better examples of battle sisters models than the example there, which is admittedly a bit extreme. Anyway, men (who tend to be overweight and have beards), play as 8-foot tall, square-jawed genetically engineered perfect specimens of male physique. They don't play with tiny versions of themselves. Although they may play with models that are bearded (it's the one ethnic minority that GW does a good job representing).
Yeah with all the talk about Eldar and female IG (and that one disturbing female ork *shudder*) people have overlooked the army that is 98% female? Sisters of Battle? Angry bitches with fire. 24/7 period, 100% flame.
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I should hope that women would be supported for expressing interest in this hobby.
I know I would feel loved if a spouse supported me in my hobby.
But, it comes down to a matter of whether or not you, personally, are interested in the hobby. Have you found any reason to get excited about 40k? If this game does it for you, as is, then there's no reason you shouldn't be able to grow a neckbeard and join the slovenly nerd masses in tabletop carnage.
Fang, son of Great Fang, the traitor we seek, The laws of the brethren say this: That only the king sees the crown of the gods, And he, the usurper, must die.
Mother earth is pregnant for the third time, for y'all have knocked her up. I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe, but I was not offended. For I knew I had to rise above it all, or drown in my own gak.
come to think of it now, if you count tyranids, then DE, Eldar, battle sisters, Daemons, and the inquisition part of grey knights, all have great Fem options If you group marines into one, then marines, guard, orks and necrons are all dudes. So that seems pretty even. And you know Tyranids are all girls... they are the only race that has babies on the tabletop, and if they are anything like social insects all of them are female
Orks are technically sexless but the imagery is masculine, same goes for 'crons
My girlfriend plays Necrons. She isn't particulary interested in female armies.
And tomorrow I'm playing a game with my friend and his girlfriend, her first time. Doesn't seem that rare to me but I haven't played in any stores yet.
As for the models, I have a female commissar and a female lasgun warrior. Helps diversify my guard up.
I don't see why a female has to play a female army, that's like looking at a male who plays Sisters of Battle strangely. The gender, or lack thereof, in your armies doesn't reflect upon the player at all.
Shadowbrand wrote:Space Marines can't have secks.
I don't think that's every been said for certain, as far as I can recall.
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Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.
But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
Really, cause my friends wife plays Menoth in Warmachine and Dark Eldar/ Space Marines in 40k. We played a team game last night against her husband. We had a four way team game, it was sexy. Wait...
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kronk wrote:Considering orks grow from fungus and not breeding, there's no need for male or female "parts", are there?
I've seen some IG "female" bits in the form of some catachan models from GW and some 3rd party bits. Dark Eldar have female characters and several troop bits.
I would bet money that the next Cadian set would have them. Not sure why the current set doesn't.
Awesome! I appreciate that there are some female troops and bits available to mod with, however your first statement does make a lot of sense as far as the orkz go. My only complaint is that they are distinctly labeled as "boyz" which thusly engenders them. My other line of thinking is that being plant life and having that as the explanation, could they be a bit more androgynous? They are clearly males, so maybe that extra fungus downstairs could migrate North a half inch or so?
And what, have it hang out of their navels I joke
Really with enough willpower, greenstuff, and time, you can make any army look however you want.
However you have picked one of the most testosterone infused armies in 40k (second only to the “sphess mahreins”) to play. You have to realize that everything about them, from the rules, to the fluff (lore/backstory) to the models is going to drip with manly stank. GW did not really create the ork range with female players in mind. Tbh they didn’t really create any of the armies with female players in mind. It’s just how it is unfortunately.
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Hazardous Harry wrote:I don't see why a female has to play a female army, that's like looking at a male who plays Sisters of Battle strangely. The gender, or lack thereof, in your armies doesn't reflect upon the player at all.
Shadowbrand wrote:Space Marines can't have secks.
I don't think that's every been said for certain, as far as I can recall.
It hasn't and it annoys me that people keep saying it.
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Hazardous Harry wrote:I don't see why a female has to play a female army, that's like looking at a male who plays Sisters of Battle strangely. The gender, or lack thereof, in your armies doesn't reflect upon the player at all.
Shadowbrand wrote:Space Marines can't have secks.
I don't think that's every been said for certain, as far as I can recall.
It hasn't and it annoys me that people keep saying it.
They are chemically castrated, as was listed in the 2nd edition dex.
As it hasn't been proven to have a space marine with someone, it's still pretty much canon.
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Ma55ter_fett wrote:Really with enough willpower, greenstuff, and time, you can make any army look however you want.
However you have picked one of the most testosterone infused armies in 40k (second only to the “sphess mahreins”) to play. You have to realize that everything about them, from the rules, to the fluff (lore/backstory) to the models is going to drip with manly stank. GW did not really create the ork range with female players in mind. Tbh they didn’t really create any of the armies with female players in mind. It’s just how it is unfortunately.
Huh... My mom likes the Orks. And the Space Marines.
Sorry to keep bringing up my mom, it's just that I don't really socialize much outside the house, so I don't have many friends of any gender.
Unreg1stered wrote:My girlfriend plays Necrons. She isn't particulary interested in female armies.
And tomorrow I'm playing a game with my friend and his girlfriend, her first time. Doesn't seem that rare to me but I haven't played in any stores yet.
As for the models, I have a female commissar and a female lasgun warrior. Helps diversify my guard up.
I know other girls who play as well, the problem is that they don't seem to stay interested for long with games like 40k for whatever reason. It's usually the modeling aspect that they like but playing is a a part they do just to get to spend time with their significant other and share in something they enjoy. Which is not a bad thing at all, it's just that most girls I've met who "play" really only play as long as they can stand it, which for some has only been a few games. As someone else mentioned it's truly a male targeted and focused game. I know guys who knit, but that doesn't mean it's the norm =/
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Ma55ter_fett wrote:Really with enough willpower, greenstuff, and time, you can make any army look however you want.
However you have picked one of the most testosterone infused armies in 40k (second only to the “sphess mahreins”) to play. You have to realize that everything about them, from the rules, to the fluff (lore/backstory) to the models is going to drip with manly stank. GW did not really create the ork range with female players in mind. Tbh they didn’t really create any of the armies with female players in mind. It’s just how it is unfortunately.
Huh... My mom likes the Orks. And the Space Marines.
Sorry to keep bringing up my mom, it's just that I don't really socialize much outside the house, so I don't have many friends of any gender.
*insert joke about how we all love bringing up your mom*
*insert joke about how the only things you can socialize with in Canada are moose, beavers, and maple syrup*
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I'm a woman who loves 40k... so I'll try to offer my perspective on this as concisely as I can.
Seriously, let her pick her own army!
I don't think advising anyone on which army they choose is a really effective way of getting them into the hobby at all. Choosing one's army is a personal thing: you have to feel attached to them, right? You want to feel like those are YOUR guys on the battlefield: like you are ONE of them... that would never work if someone chose an army because someone else said they should.
It's perfectly within the realms of possibility for women to become attached to armies strongly composed of males.
Also, in my view, there is absolutely NO shortage of "lecherous gawking". I assume (so take this with a pinch of salt - it has been the way for me, it may not be this way for other women), it's already a huge reason as to why women are so repelled by taking this whole thing up in the first place. -
I'd hate for miniatures to exist purely because of either "gawking" purposes, (there is only war! If there's time to just stand there with yer tits out, GTFO the battlefield!) or the hopes that that particular race will encourage more female players... for the male players to gawk at the moment they enter the store and creep them out / be massively intimidating...
...Oh.. well what a piece of crap my daemon is turning out to be. :( Clicks may help improve him... He is clearly suffering.
Huh... My mom likes the Orks. And the Space Marines.
Sorry to keep bringing up my mom, it's just that I don't really socialize much outside the house, so I don't have many friends of any gender.
Your mother has fine taste.
WAAAGH
Fang, son of Great Fang, the traitor we seek, The laws of the brethren say this: That only the king sees the crown of the gods, And he, the usurper, must die.
Mother earth is pregnant for the third time, for y'all have knocked her up. I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe, but I was not offended. For I knew I had to rise above it all, or drown in my own gak.
TheSinheizer wrote:I'm a woman who loves 40k... so I'll try to offer my perspective on this as concisely as I can.
Seriously, let her pick her own army!
I don't think advising anyone on which army they choose is a really effective way of getting them into the hobby at all. Choosing one's army is a personal thing: you have to feel attached to them, right? You want to feel like those are YOUR guys on the battlefield: like you are ONE of them... that would never work if someone chose an army because someone else said they should.
What army do you play?
Maybe you could give the OP some ideas
Fang, son of Great Fang, the traitor we seek, The laws of the brethren say this: That only the king sees the crown of the gods, And he, the usurper, must die.
Mother earth is pregnant for the third time, for y'all have knocked her up. I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe, but I was not offended. For I knew I had to rise above it all, or drown in my own gak.
kitsunecutie wrote:
The first bit makes me sad. This is the type of thinking that excludes us initially and drives us away if we dare tread on your territory. The second bit is encouraging but still sad. There should be many examples of women that are into gaming, but I do feel that there is a lot of adversity that we face when entering your sanctuaries.
I really do feel like I'm treading on thin ice or something when I sometimes interact with other male gamers.
kitsunecutie wrote:
Sadly, this is true of most game stores. I went to our local store to meet some of the guys my husband was playing D&D with and one of them swept low and tried to take my hand to kiss it while saying, "Enchante". The rest of them just stopped what they were playing and there was about 15 seconds of silence as I made my way through. I feel excessively uncomfortable being there, but if the guys would stop looking at me as a female and just be accepting of the gaming part, they might be able to get to know me. This is true of all female gamers. We are into the same things you are. If you can show that you are interested in talking about commonalities as opposed to being preoccupied by my boobs, we may get along quite well. However, we can't get to that point if the guys glom onto us like we are a collector's edition figure or worse, stare at us as though attempting to summon us to them with Jedi mind powers.
LOL! Made me crack up!! XD
kitsunecutie wrote:
Soccerlfb6 wrote:...all girls want is money...u spend a ton on this hobby...itll piss em off and c it as a waste...end of story ur money goes to them not models..
Wow. Actually, a lot of girls want a guy who can spell and speak properly. I see this as being a reply from a very bitter person and I am sorry that your experiences have hardened you. Did you actually read the OP?
TedNugent wrote:
Soccerlfb6 wrote:...all girls want is money...u spend a ton on this hobby...itll piss em off and c it as a waste...end of story ur money goes to them not models..
Exactly. Women like diamonds and shiz.
Again, I am sorry that you share this sad point of view. This is an expensive hobby, but I take pride in saying that my husband is a stay at home dad and I have financed all of his figures. as he said when I showed him this post, "These are my diamonds!" I must agree whole heartedly <3
You are so badass, and I conquer! Sometimes, just sometimes... 40k is a girls best friend. ^_^
The only time a diamond would be my best friend, might be if my boyfriend were to propose to me by hiding the ring inside a drop pod.
kitsunecutie wrote:
While I would agree that both sexes enjoy being attractive imagining themselves as such, I would have to say those models are for men. When my husband first started looking at the different armies he found these and showed them to me. I appreciate them, but I can't say I would ever play them. I find them to be masculine and intended to appeal to men who have dom fetishes. They are much to hard and they are even postured like men. On the other hand, I would love to also see racial diversity. It is not just the way you paint your models but in the unique facial features as well!
I've actually never heard that perspective before! To me, their stance and posture were spot-on for being in battle... I think some muscularity can logically only be a good and relevant thing for women who are fighting. The only gripe I have would be sexiness, like as in.. bare boobs, slender bodies, not much armour and so on. Although I don't have an issue with Slaanesh (the new ones; I can't stand some of the old ones - they just look way too conventional for my liking). It just seems to match their fluff more.
kitsunecutie wrote:
This is a major problem! We are constantly being lorded over and being treated as inferior or even stupid. Someone asked me if I was comfortable playing because it was something that smart guys play. I was so hurt. I realized that in some people's eyes not only was my gender holding me back but that they thought I was not clever or intelligent enough to play war games...
This actually infuriates me... I've never known the likes of this with ANY other hobby. It's just so unfortunate.
kitsunecutie wrote:
I have also heard this, and it is very discouraging. I mean, doesn't every guy that is into war gaming or any other subculture hobby want more females around so that they can find someone who can relate to what they are into? It's entirely counterintuitive to furthering the nerd species to exclude us
Here's to furthering the nerd species!
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...Oh.. well what a piece of crap my daemon is turning out to be. :( Clicks may help improve him... He is clearly suffering.
TheSinheizer wrote:
I really do feel like I'm treading on thin ice or something when I sometimes interact with other male gamers.
Then lighten up. Nobody likes walking on eggshells.
Believe me, I find them even less attractive then you do.
I used to work with girls at a videogame store. It's no problem. You're there, you work, you chat about stuff. If they're socially awkward or incapable of communicating with you in a sensible way, that's their problem. If you're incapable of being around men, well - maybe that's your problem. You're going to see a lot of men throughout your life, you might as well learn how to deal with it.
Fang, son of Great Fang, the traitor we seek, The laws of the brethren say this: That only the king sees the crown of the gods, And he, the usurper, must die.
Mother earth is pregnant for the third time, for y'all have knocked her up. I have tasted the maggots in the mind of the universe, but I was not offended. For I knew I had to rise above it all, or drown in my own gak.
Fang, son of Great Fang, the traitor we seek, The laws of the brethren say this: That only the king sees the crown of the gods, And he, the usurper, must die.
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