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I do not believe in them.

But I do love reading a good story about paranormal events. I wish they were real :(

This thread title is misleading...

I intend to become a poltergeist when I die. I'll rearrange furniture, hide TV remotes and clog the shower drain with shoes.

I don't. UFO's maybe but its extremely unlikely that they are buzzing about making pretty patterns in crops/abducting rednecks.

Aside from anything else if supernatural being exist they are then by definition natural (or artifical).

I like to wish some of it was true, just because I like the idea. Something along the lines of Charmed.

Demons? No.

Ghosts? Not bloody likely.

Aliens?I absolutely believe there are sentient life forms on other planets. They have never been to earth and, unless they've developed faster than light travel or communications they will never contact us, and at our current technology level, we sure as hell will never contact them. Also, FTL is unlikely, and, in fact, according the laws of physics, (if I remember high school physics correctly ) impossible... though sometimes the laws of physics don't behave as they should.

Essentially, yes, there are probably aliens, but at this point it's utterly irrelevant to humanity.

Palindrome wrote:I don't. UFO's maybe but its extremely unlikely that they are buzzing about making pretty patterns in crops/abducting rednecks.

IF they are, then hat make rednecks so special? Why are they always the ones being abducted,
Unless of course my suspicions are correct and rednecks are a different species.

RatBot wrote:. Also, FTL is unlikely, and, in fact, according the laws of physics, (if I remember high school physics correctly ) impossible... though sometimes the laws of physics don't behave as they should.
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FTL is impossible but at 1/10th of the speed of light time appears to slow and distances shorten, yeah go figure :L

kronk wrote:How empty coat hangers will reproduce in your closet when no one watches!

Well at least they're doing it while nobody's watching, unlike dogs.

LoneLictor wrote:I intend to become a poltergeist when I die. I'll rearrange furniture, hide TV remotes and clog the shower drain with shoes.

I want to be a Poltergeist that annoys other ghosts...

Peeves?

I don't believe in ANYTHING supernatural. Which isn't explicitly stating that I don't believe in spirits or ghosts. I doubt their existence, but if they do exist, they would be part of the natural world in some way or another and there would be a scientific explanation for them if we studied long and hard enough.

Now aliens/UFOs:

I cannot see how there couldn't be intelligent life somewhere out there, after all, it happened once on our planet, so it therefore can happen anywhere given the right conditions. I am doubtful that they have ever been to Earth however.

To anyone who says they don't believe in UFOs, I'll ask you this: You really don't believe that there have been unidentified flying objects? Of course there is such a thing as UFOs. It is generally the government messing around or an otherwise human-constructed aircraft that looks unconventional enough.




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Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:

RatBot wrote:. Also, FTL is unlikely, and, in fact, according the laws of physics, (if I remember high school physics correctly ) impossible... though sometimes the laws of physics don't behave as they should.
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FTL is impossible but at 1/10th of the speed of light time appears to slow and distances shorten, yeah go figure :L

FTL travel is impossible, but there are physically possible ways of traveling vast distances quickly other than traveling faster than light. Wormhole travel, for instance, or other things we haven't thought of.

I believe that when you die everything upstairs that made you you goes out with a fizzle and all that’s left is a rather stiff and cold flabby body that rapidly becomes putrid.

And it would take the ghost of my dead grandmother popping out of the wall and smacking me in the gob before I believe otherwise.

Not too keen on UFO's either, I do believe that there is life elsewhere in the universe but, I don't believe that they pop down to earth every once in a while to annoy mad photographers.

As a Christian I certainly believe in Demons. Satan after all is a Demon. Do I believe in the hollywood/games workshop version of demons...no.

Ghosts could possibly be a sign of demonic influence...not sure though.

GG

GalacticDefender wrote:

Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:

RatBot wrote:. Also, FTL is unlikely, and, in fact, according the laws of physics, (if I remember high school physics correctly ) impossible... though sometimes the laws of physics don't behave as they should.
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FTL is impossible but at 1/10th of the speed of light time appears to slow and distances shorten, yeah go figure :L

FTL travel is impossible, but there are physically possible ways of traveling vast distances quickly other than traveling faster than light. Wormhole travel, for instance, or other things we haven't thought of.

Also a warp drive (probably the only thing in Star Trek that is actually based on real physics)

generalgrog wrote:As a Christian I certainly believe in Demons. Satan after all is a Demon. Do I believe in the hollywood/games workshop version of demons...no.

Ghosts could possibly be a sign of demonic influence...not sure though.

GG

Satan is not a demon, he is an angel, a fallen one, but by no means a demon which according to Abrahamic beliefs are separate entities.

OT: No I do not believe in the supernatural.

I'm of the religious sorts, and i am told that demons do exist to tempt us, that being really all and that the great human spirit can ward them away etc etc.

EDIT: Also told that sometimes spirits in purgatory perform their penance one earth in some fashion, one story being that a priest who took stipends or some such even though he did not perform his services and basically was all ghost priest like performing them in an empty church at night.

+1 to Satan being a fallen angel. Now that that's over with...

My step brother took pictures of a supposedly haunted building, snapped one photo down a totally empty hallway and looked at the picture when he got back to his room. See-through human shape in the middle of the hall. Nobody believed it until he passed the picture around. Kind of hard not to believe after seeing it...

When I was in college I worked in two buildings that were haunted-one ghost only watched me as I closed up at night (not friendly-it was very creepy), the other screwed around with us-my stupidly brave friend tried to run away, I fell over (never having experienced vertigo before and having near perfect balance) and it manifested in front of another friend and shrieked at him.

So yes...I believe in ghosts. And aliens are a given-anyone who believes this planet is the only one capable of supporting life in the entire universe is either arrogant or stupid beyond belief. Possibly both. Demons? Only Satan's minions in hell. No Constantine-type stuff.

kronk wrote:

Perkustin wrote:Like how headphone wires always get tangled up in a drawer?

How empty coat hangers will reproduce in your closet when no one watches!

How USBs will re-orient themselves so that you get it wrong the first two times you try to plug into your computer!

How 2 socks go into the washing machine but only 1 ever comes out

I believe in the paranormal and the Extraterrestrial. My girlfriends old house had a ghost and would be quite irritating when I would stay there. He was a bit jealous.

If they do I would think it's not down to Supernatural reasons, but more to do with physics. As we all break down to atoms when we die I wonder if it's possible that these atoms could come together to create a "ghost". Am I correct in thinking that they have some sort of electrical charge in them? If so it act like some sort of recording device. Could also explain reincarnation.

Whatever it is I've always thought that the government should find out one way or the other and put it to bed.

Of course I don't. What is this; the dark ages?

Wolfstan wrote:If they do I would think it's not down to Supernatural reasons, but more to do with physics. As we all break down to atoms when we die I wonder if it's possible that these atoms could come together to create a "ghost". Am I correct in thinking that they have some sort of electrical charge in them? If so it act like some sort of recording device. Could also explain reincarnation.

Whatever it is I've always thought that the government should find out one way or the other and put it to bed.

I've always wondered about this a bit too. I'm not a scientist or know much about anything so the following statements/questiosn may be grossly negligent.

Since energy can never be destroyed, only converted; and all "thought" is just electrical synapses firingas a form of energy; aren't all thoughts essentially immrotal (until they are converted into something else, like matter?)? If a human consciousness is only a certain format of electrical impulses at a particular time and place, is it possible for these "energy" patterns to be reproduced someplace else by mere chance?

timetowaste85 wrote:+1 to Satan being a fallen angel. Now that that's over with...

My step brother took pictures of a supposedly haunted building, snapped one photo down a totally empty hallway and looked at the picture when he got back to his room. See-through human shape in the middle of the hall. Nobody believed it until he passed the picture around. Kind of hard not to believe after seeing it...

When I was in college I worked in two buildings that were haunted-one ghost only watched me as I closed up at night (not friendly-it was very creepy), the other screwed around with us-my stupidly brave friend tried to run away, I fell over (never having experienced vertigo before and having near perfect balance) and it manifested in front of another friend and shrieked at him.

So yes...I believe in ghosts. And aliens are a given-anyone who believes this planet is the only one capable of supporting life in the entire universe is either arrogant or stupid beyond belief. Possibly both. Demons? Only Satan's minions in hell. No Constantine-type stuff.

Nice that you have photographic evidence, care to share it with the rest of us?


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Easy E wrote:

Wolfstan wrote:If they do I would think it's not down to Supernatural reasons, but more to do with physics. As we all break down to atoms when we die I wonder if it's possible that these atoms could come together to create a "ghost". Am I correct in thinking that they have some sort of electrical charge in them? If so it act like some sort of recording device. Could also explain reincarnation.

Whatever it is I've always thought that the government should find out one way or the other and put it to bed.

I've always wondered about this a bit too. I'm not a scientist or know much about anything so the following statements/questiosn may be grossly negligent.

Since energy can never be destroyed, only converted; and all "thought" is just electrical synapses firingas a form of energy; aren't all thoughts essentially immrotal (until they are converted into something else, like matter?)? If a human consciousness is only a certain format of electrical impulses at a particular time and place, is it possible for these "energy" patterns to be reproduced someplace else by mere chance?

It might be just me, but that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

When we die we don't break down into atoms any more that the chicken that I ate for dinner yesterday did! When we die, our bodies and are used as nutrients by either animals, plants or microbes of various types, that's what decomposition is all about.

And our thought patterns are only bio-electrical impulses going around in our brain, that is true, but what do you mean by "reproduced someplace else by mere chance"? Those patterns don't just happen out of thin air, you need to have the correct electrochemical environment...

Yes, but we've ventured into that territory once before.

PhantomViper wrote:

It might be just me, but that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

When we die we don't break down into atoms any more that the chicken that I ate for dinner yesterday did! When we die, our bodies and are used as nutrients by either animals, plants or microbes of various types, that's what decomposition is all about.

And our thought patterns are only bio-electrical impulses going around in our brain, that is true, but what do you mean by "reproduced someplace else by mere chance"? Those patterns don't just happen out of thin air, you need to have the correct electrochemical environment...

Nothing is ever completely destroyed. Have you not ever heard of the saying about us being made from Stardust? We are made up from Stardust and that gets recycled, whether it's back into a living breathing human or in ten million years into a rock.

Easy E wrote:

Wolfstan wrote:If they do I would think it's not down to Supernatural reasons, but more to do with physics. As we all break down to atoms when we die I wonder if it's possible that these atoms could come together to create a "ghost". Am I correct in thinking that they have some sort of electrical charge in them? If so it act like some sort of recording device. Could also explain reincarnation.

Whatever it is I've always thought that the government should find out one way or the other and put it to bed.

I've always wondered about this a bit too. I'm not a scientist or know much about anything so the following statements/questiosn may be grossly negligent.

Since energy can never be destroyed, only converted; and all "thought" is just electrical synapses firingas a form of energy; aren't all thoughts essentially immrotal (until they are converted into something else, like matter?)? If a human consciousness is only a certain format of electrical impulses at a particular time and place, is it possible for these "energy" patterns to be reproduced someplace else by mere chance?

Technically yes in a "infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters" kind of way, practically speaking an exact copy of your brain at any given time is so incredibly unlikely that it may as well be impossible.

Wolfstan wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:

It might be just me, but that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

When we die we don't break down into atoms any more that the chicken that I ate for dinner yesterday did! When we die, our bodies and are used as nutrients by either animals, plants or microbes of various types, that's what decomposition is all about.

And our thought patterns are only bio-electrical impulses going around in our brain, that is true, but what do you mean by "reproduced someplace else by mere chance"? Those patterns don't just happen out of thin air, you need to have the correct electrochemical environment...

Nothing is ever completely destroyed. Have you not ever heard of the saying about us being made from Stardust? We are made up from Stardust and that gets recycled, whether it's back into a living breathing human or in ten million years into a rock.

Stardust?

Stars made all the atoms in the universe (aside from hydrogen). Therefore everything is made from stardust.

But only stardust from stars that went nova

PhantomViper wrote:

Wolfstan wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:

It might be just me, but that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

When we die we don't break down into atoms any more that the chicken that I ate for dinner yesterday did! When we die, our bodies and are used as nutrients by either animals, plants or microbes of various types, that's what decomposition is all about.

And our thought patterns are only bio-electrical impulses going around in our brain, that is true, but what do you mean by "reproduced someplace else by mere chance"? Those patterns don't just happen out of thin air, you need to have the correct electrochemical environment...

Nothing is ever completely destroyed. Have you not ever heard of the saying about us being made from Stardust? We are made up from Stardust and that gets recycled, whether it's back into a living breathing human or in ten million years into a rock.

Stardust?

The stuff that the universe is made up of.

Krellnus wrote:

generalgrog wrote:As a Christian I certainly believe in Demons. Satan after all is a Demon. Do I believe in the hollywood/games workshop version of demons...no.

Ghosts could possibly be a sign of demonic influence...not sure though.

GG

Satan is not a demon, he is an angel, a fallen one, but by no means a demon.

Trying to post from iPhone..so sorry for short response but according to tChristian belief a fallen angel is by default a demon. Satan fell to earth with 1/3 of the angels(don't remember exact text right now). So Satan and 1/3 of the angels being all fallen angels are considered demons.
GG