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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/06 05:05:48
Subject: Re:proper annunciation
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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One that threw me for a loop was Catachan.
Apparently pronounced kat-eh-kan.
Also, Chimera is pronounced Ky-mere-ah. It bugs me when people say Chim-era
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/06 05:14:20
Subject: Re:proper annunciation
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Kaldor wrote:One that threw me for a loop was Catachan.
Apparently pronounced kat-eh-kan.
Also, Chimera is pronounced Ky-mere-ah. It bugs me when people say Chim-era
Oh man, CHIM-era drives me up a wall.
That and "Night Sky- ths" or "War-sky- ths".
No matter how many times you correct them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/06 05:16:23
Subject: proper annunciation
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I've always pronounced the "ch" in Catachan as a "ch", not a "kh".
As for chimera, you have to be really careful about beating people up about pronounciation. The letter X from ancient Greek is very, very poorly standardized.
For example, you pronounce chiropractic with a "kh" sound, but you pronounce chariot with a "ch" sound. Both of them are Greek words starting with the same letter, but they're pronounced different ways in english.
And in any case, the original greek was Khaimeira, which is how nobody pronounces it anyways, so we're all wrong...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/06 09:46:00
Subject: Re:proper annunciation
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Making Stuff
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Grey Templar wrote:Yeah, but if we were to use other languages it would be a S sound. Sea-tan
The only other language that matters in this particular case is the one GW made up, that the name comes from.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/06 17:55:17
Subject: Re:proper annunciation
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That made up language is called Latin and I'm pretty sure it's real I used a Latin dictionary and 80% of the stuff GW uses is from that but you are correct they did make some things up like Manufactorum and the like
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/06 20:07:27
Subject: Re:proper annunciation
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Making Stuff
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Commissar41.0 wrote:That made up language is called Latin and I'm pretty sure it's real I used a Latin dictionary and 80% of the stuff GW uses is from that but you are correct they did make some things up like Manufactorum and the like
You're thinking of Imperial Gothic, which is represented with some Latin (and some almost-Latin, and some just-not-Latin) words... but it's not Latin.
The Necrontyr were the ones who named the 'star gods' C'tan, though, and are unlikely to speak Latin. Or High Gothic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/06 21:05:22
Subject: Re:proper annunciation
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Man O' War
Nosey, ain't ya?
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I've always said C'tan like this k-tan. Also I know this one's been done loads but how is Roboute(?) Guilliman pronounced? Is it Row-boot Gill-ee-man? And How do you say Tyranids? I say it like Tyrannosaurus so Tie-ran-nids
Thanks for the help
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/06 21:08:11
Subject: Re:proper annunciation
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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The Crusader wrote:I've always said C'tan like this k-tan. Also I know this one's been done loads but how is Roboute(?) Guilliman pronounced? Is it Row-boot Gill-ee-man? And How do you say Tyranids? I say it like Tyrannosaurus so Tie-ran-nids
Thanks for the help
I'd assume Tyranids SHOULD be pronounced as "Tyrant", as they're named after the planet Tyran. We just say it the way you do around here though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/06 21:09:31
Subject: proper annunciation
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Commissar41.0 wrote:hey guys I just wanted to know how you actually pronounce some of the things in the 40K universe...list some that you dont understand.
Necrontyr....is the final n silent does it sound like necro-tyr?
Macragge....I thought it was ma-craig?
Aeronautica....i think its like its spelled
Tzeentch....zz-ench?
Grimladus the Reclusiarch....Grim ladus/lettuce?
Necron T Er
Ma crag
Arrow naughty ka
zeench
grim la dus the re clue c ar ch
thats how i do it xD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 12:02:20
Subject: proper annunciation
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Macragge....It'll be Scottish, so Mc Rag, like McDonalds. Just say Muck Rag quickly
Aeronautica.... It is made up on Aero(plane) and Nautica(l), so "Airo nought eca"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 12:27:12
Subject: proper annunciation
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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As I've mentioned before, the one which vexes me is hearing people pronounce Vindicare "vindy-care". It's "Vin-di-car-ay" (literally "to bring retribution"), with a long "a", like "justicar" (an Anglicisation of "iusticare" - literally "to bring justice").
I'll sidestep the question of whether we should pronounce the "v" with a "w" sound, since GW's Latin seems based more on early-modern neo-Latin (that of Linnaeus and his contemporaries) than classical Latin, which did the former (as, in fact did the vulgar Latin of the Republic, and as became standard in Rome under the Empire).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 12:33:17
Subject: proper annunciation
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English Assassin wrote:As I've mentioned before, the one which vexes me is hearing people pronounce Vindicare "vindy-care". It's "Vin-di-car-ay" (literally "to bring retribution"), with a long "a", like "justicar" (an Anglicisation of "iusticare" - literally "to bring justice").
I'll sidestep the question of whether we should pronounce the "v" with a "w" sound, since GW's Latin seems based more on early-modern neo-Latin (that of Linnaeus and his contemporaries) than classical Latin, which did the former (as, in fact did the vulgar Latin of the Republic, and as became standard in Rome under the Empire).
I always felt 'church' Latin was more appropriate to the 40k Imperium. Honestly never really liked the 'w' usage, myself. "Weni, Wini, Wichi" sounds a bit silly really.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 16:40:11
Subject: proper annunciation
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Raging Ravener
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is BAAL "bay-yul" or "ball"?
i havent been able to get a definite answer Automatically Appended Next Post: btw, i say tyranid "teer-rah-nid"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 16:46:52
Subject: proper annunciation
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Stealthy Kroot Stalker
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I'm pretty sure I heard Tyranids sounding like tyranny in DoW2 Retribution
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 16:49:52
Subject: proper annunciation
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Here's one that everyone seems to have their own interpretation of: Elysian
I say it :uh-lie-sea-in
but I've heard
uh-leash-in
eh-leasy-in
and others.
Thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 17:32:58
Subject: Re:proper annunciation
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Elysium is pronounced ɪˈli.ʒi.əm. Elysian is pronounced the same way, except an at the end instad of um.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 17:51:08
Subject: proper annunciation
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Dakka Veteran
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Phototoxin wrote:dpal666 wrote:Agree with the pronunciations, but one HUGE error in the thread for me.
Enunciation... ih-nuhn-see-ey-shuhn
no offense to anyone here, but that's been buggin me.
Amen
This is annunciation:

LOl, why did no one catch this?
an·nun·ci·a·tion (-nns-shn)
n.
1. The act of announcing.
2. An announcement; a proclamation.
3. Annunciation Christianity
a. The angel Gabriel's announcement to the Virgin Mary of the Incarnation.
b. The feast celebrating this event.
c. March 25, the day on which this feast is observed.
Edit: Er, no one but a few...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 20:07:58
Subject: proper annunciation
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LunaHound wrote:grim la dus the re clue c ar ch
And again, it's 'Grimaldus' ... not 'Grimladus'...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 22:23:58
Subject: proper annunciation
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dufus0001 wrote:is BAAL "bay-yul" or "ball"?
i havent been able to get a definite answer
Assuming the name is based on the prince of Hell here it's pronounced "BAYL" (or like 'bail' in a courtroom).
The Blizzard character from Diablo 2, Baal the Lord of Destruction is also pronounced the same way.
"Ball' predator sounds just as silly as when people say Imperial Guard "Chim-eras". Imperial Guard vehicles are often named after Greek or Roman Mythological beasts/characters (Chimera, Basilisk, Atlas, Gorgon, Manticore, Hydra, Medusa, Griffon, Collosus) I assume they would follow the same pronunciation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/07 22:30:23
Subject: proper annunciation
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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insaniak wrote:LunaHound wrote:grim la dus the re clue c ar ch
And again, it's 'Grimaldus' ... not 'Grimladus'...
lol oops :'D
*edit wait no, I pronounced it off OP's spelling
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 00:20:17
Subject: proper annunciation
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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dufus0001 wrote:is BAAL "bay-yul" or "ball"?
Neither. It's "Baa-l", a long "a" sound, the way an RP English accent would pronounce "bath".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 00:30:16
Subject: proper annunciation
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Raging Ravener
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English Assassin wrote:
Neither. It's "Baa-l", a long "a" sound, the way an RP English accent would pronounce "bath".
you are contradicting yourself friend. a long or hard (giggidy) 'A' sound makes the sound "aye" whereas a short or soft 'A' sound makes an "aah" sound. bath has a short 'A' sound
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 00:51:27
Subject: proper annunciation
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Pile of Necron Spare Parts
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I've always said C'Tan with an 's' sound, but I'm starting lean the other way.
I've always said "Shimaera" because of a foreword in Ender's Shadow by Orson Scott Card, but it turns out most of internet agrees it is a hard 'k' sound.
Also, Commorragh sounds like Gamora, but I prefer the way the archon says it in Soulstorm, with the emphasis on the last syllable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 02:03:19
Subject: proper annunciation
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Ship's Officer
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TheCaptain wrote:Here's one that everyone seems to have their own interpretation of: Elysian
I say it :uh-lie-sea-in
but I've heard
uh-leash-in
eh-leasy-in
and others.
Thoughts?
I always pronounce it the second way this guy says it: here.
But, again, that's probably just because the first time I heard it was in reference to the Greek name for one of the parts of the Afterlife - The Elysian Fields (or Elysium, go figure).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 02:10:24
Subject: Re:proper annunciation
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The Conquerer
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I always pronounced Baal like Ball.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 02:19:02
Subject: proper annunciation
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ailaros wrote:I've always pronounced the "ch" in Catachan as a "ch", not a "kh".
As for chimera, you have to be really careful about beating people up about pronounciation. The letter X from ancient Greek is very, very poorly standardized.
For example, you pronounce chiropractic with a "kh" sound, but you pronounce chariot with a "ch" sound. Both of them are Greek words starting with the same letter, but they're pronounced different ways in english.
And in any case, the original greek was Khaimeira, which is how nobody pronounces it anyways, so we're all wrong...
Really? Wikipedia says it's Χίμαιρα, would would be khim-ai-ra.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 03:34:41
Subject: proper annunciation
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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dufus0001 wrote:English Assassin wrote:
Neither. It's "Baa-l", a long "a" sound, the way an RP English accent would pronounce "bath".
you are contradicting yourself friend. a long or hard (giggidy) 'A' sound makes the sound "aye" whereas a short or soft 'A' sound makes an "aah" sound. bath has a short 'A' sound
No, the short sound of A is what you'd hear in cat or hat. Baal should be pronounced like the sound in bar, car or master.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 03:35:43
Subject: proper annunciation
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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What's the concensus on Roboute Guilliman?
I go Row-boo Ghee-a-men. Anyone else?
What about Leman Russ? Lay-men Russ?
Also I haven't seen it yet, but I say Zench. One syllable.
I've also found that different parts of the world pronounce words differently (who would have thought?)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 04:30:50
Subject: proper annunciation
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Kaldor wrote:dufus0001 wrote:English Assassin wrote:
Neither. It's "Baa-l", a long "a" sound, the way an RP English accent would pronounce "bath".
you are contradicting yourself friend. a long or hard (giggidy) 'A' sound makes the sound "aye" whereas a short or soft 'A' sound makes an "aah" sound. bath has a short 'A' sound
No, the short sound of A is what you'd hear in cat or hat. Baal should be pronounced like the sound in bar, car or master.
I have to disagree with the "bar/car/master" translation.
http://cheetah.eb.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?baal0001.wav=baal - Mirriam Webster
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Baal - Free Online Dictionary
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/baal - Dictionary.com, however, lists the first translation as Australian slang 'Bahl' (meaning 'no') with the historical/biblical/daemonic version 'BAY-uhl'.
http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=baal - lists both, but BAY-uhl first.
http://betterdaysarecoming.com/bible/pronunciation.html#b - Lists the biblical pronunciation is BAY-uhl (However the Hebrew pronunciation is "Ba'-al" with a glottal stop in the middle (imagine you're from Saff Lahndan and you're saying 'water'))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giiUTNUL1-U - Obviously someone felt the need to REALLY rub it in. The comments are the best part of this.
In the poem The Destruction of Sennacherib (1815) by Lord Byron, he rhymes it with "wail"
"And the tents were all silent, the banners alone,
The lances unlifted, the trumpets unblown.
And the widows of Ashur are loud in their wail,
And the idols are broke in the temple of Baal;
And the might of the Gentile, unsmote by the sword,
Hath melted like snow in the glance of the Lord!"
Plus we all remember the infamous quote upon discovering Duriel in Diablo II: "LOOKING FOR BAAL?" *SWIPE-SWIPE SWIPE-SWIPE OM NOM NOM!*
I squished his maggots for a good 2 minutes before wandering over to rescue Tyrael
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/08 04:57:28
Subject: Re:proper annunciation
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DeffDred wrote:Kroothawk wrote:Saim Hann = Sam Hain (Celtic feast) It's SAHwen or SAHween. As in, Halloween. Actually, it(the craftworld) IS pronounced Sam Hine by the studio guys if you ask them. It was also pointed out in the 3rd edition Craftworld sub-dex as the proper pronunciation.
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