Switch Theme:

proper annunciation  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in au
Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight





Australia

One that threw me for a loop was Catachan.

Apparently pronounced kat-eh-kan.

Also, Chimera is pronounced Ky-mere-ah. It bugs me when people say Chim-era

"Did you ever notice how in the Bible, when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel? Did you ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? A whole existence spent praising your God, but always with one wing dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?" 
   
Made in us
Mutating Changebringer





New Hampshire, USA

Kaldor wrote:One that threw me for a loop was Catachan.

Apparently pronounced kat-eh-kan.

Also, Chimera is pronounced Ky-mere-ah. It bugs me when people say Chim-era


Oh man, CHIM-era drives me up a wall.

That and "Night Sky-ths" or "War-sky-ths".

No matter how many times you correct them

Khorne Daemons 4000+pts
 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut





Vallejo, CA

I've always pronounced the "ch" in Catachan as a "ch", not a "kh".

As for chimera, you have to be really careful about beating people up about pronounciation. The letter X from ancient Greek is very, very poorly standardized.

For example, you pronounce chiropractic with a "kh" sound, but you pronounce chariot with a "ch" sound. Both of them are Greek words starting with the same letter, but they're pronounced different ways in english.

And in any case, the original greek was Khaimeira, which is how nobody pronounces it anyways, so we're all wrong...


Your one-stop website for batreps, articles, and assorted goodies about the men of Folera: Foleran First Imperial Archives. Read Dakka's favorite narrative battle report series The Hand of the King. Also, check out my commission work, and my terrain.

Abstract Principles of 40k: Why game imbalance and list tailoring is good, and why tournaments are an absurd farce.

Read "The Geomides Affair", now on sale! No bolter porn. Not another inquisitor story. A book written by a dakkanought for dakkanoughts!
 
   
Made in au
[MOD]
Making Stuff






Under the couch

Grey Templar wrote:Yeah, but if we were to use other languages it would be a S sound. Sea-tan

The only other language that matters in this particular case is the one GW made up, that the name comes from.

 
   
Made in us
Storm Trooper with Maglight





Texas.....Yall

That made up language is called Latin and I'm pretty sure it's real I used a Latin dictionary and 80% of the stuff GW uses is from that but you are correct they did make some things up like Manufactorum and the like
   
Made in au
[MOD]
Making Stuff






Under the couch

Commissar41.0 wrote:That made up language is called Latin and I'm pretty sure it's real I used a Latin dictionary and 80% of the stuff GW uses is from that but you are correct they did make some things up like Manufactorum and the like

You're thinking of Imperial Gothic, which is represented with some Latin (and some almost-Latin, and some just-not-Latin) words... but it's not Latin.

The Necrontyr were the ones who named the 'star gods' C'tan, though, and are unlikely to speak Latin. Or High Gothic.

 
   
Made in gb
Man O' War




Nosey, ain't ya?

I've always said C'tan like this k-tan. Also I know this one's been done loads but how is Roboute(?) Guilliman pronounced? Is it Row-boot Gill-ee-man? And How do you say Tyranids? I say it like Tyrannosaurus so Tie-ran-nids

Thanks for the help

I have dug my grave in this place and I will triumph or I will die!

Proud member of the I won with Zerkova club

Advocate of 'Jack heavy Khador. 
   
Made in se
Ferocious Black Templar Castellan






Sweden

The Crusader wrote:I've always said C'tan like this k-tan. Also I know this one's been done loads but how is Roboute(?) Guilliman pronounced? Is it Row-boot Gill-ee-man? And How do you say Tyranids? I say it like Tyrannosaurus so Tie-ran-nids

Thanks for the help


I'd assume Tyranids SHOULD be pronounced as "Tyrant", as they're named after the planet Tyran. We just say it the way you do around here though.

For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back. 
   
Made in ca
Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God





Inactive

Commissar41.0 wrote:hey guys I just wanted to know how you actually pronounce some of the things in the 40K universe...list some that you dont understand.

Necrontyr....is the final n silent does it sound like necro-tyr?
Macragge....I thought it was ma-craig?
Aeronautica....i think its like its spelled
Tzeentch....zz-ench?
Grimladus the Reclusiarch....Grim ladus/lettuce?


Necron T Er
Ma crag
Arrow naughty ka
zeench
grim la dus the re clue c ar ch

thats how i do it xD

Paused
◙▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
           ◂◂  ►  ▐ ▌  ◼  ▸▸
          ʳʷ   ᵖˡᵃʸ  ᵖᵃᵘˢᵉ  ˢᵗᵒᵖ   ᶠᶠ 
   
Made in gb
Moustache-twirling Princeps





Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry

Macragge....It'll be Scottish, so Mc Rag, like McDonalds. Just say Muck Rag quickly

Aeronautica.... It is made up on Aero(plane) and Nautica(l), so "Airo nought eca"

6000 pts - Harlies: 1000 pts - 4000 pts - 1000 pts - 1000 pts DS:70+S+G++MB+IPw40k86/f+D++A++/cWD64R+T(T)DM+
IG/AM force nearly-finished pieces: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-38888-41159_Armies%20-%20Imperial%20Guard.html
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw (probably)
Clubs around Coventry, UK https://discord.gg/6Gk7Xyh5Bf 
   
Made in gb
Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator





Classified

As I've mentioned before, the one which vexes me is hearing people pronounce Vindicare "vindy-care". It's "Vin-di-car-ay" (literally "to bring retribution"), with a long "a", like "justicar" (an Anglicisation of "iusticare" - literally "to bring justice").

I'll sidestep the question of whether we should pronounce the "v" with a "w" sound, since GW's Latin seems based more on early-modern neo-Latin (that of Linnaeus and his contemporaries) than classical Latin, which did the former (as, in fact did the vulgar Latin of the Republic, and as became standard in Rome under the Empire).



Red Hunters: 2000 points Grey Knights: 2000 points Black Legion: 600 points and counting 
   
Made in us
Ship's Officer





Reading, UK

English Assassin wrote:As I've mentioned before, the one which vexes me is hearing people pronounce Vindicare "vindy-care". It's "Vin-di-car-ay" (literally "to bring retribution"), with a long "a", like "justicar" (an Anglicisation of "iusticare" - literally "to bring justice").

I'll sidestep the question of whether we should pronounce the "v" with a "w" sound, since GW's Latin seems based more on early-modern neo-Latin (that of Linnaeus and his contemporaries) than classical Latin, which did the former (as, in fact did the vulgar Latin of the Republic, and as became standard in Rome under the Empire).
I always felt 'church' Latin was more appropriate to the 40k Imperium. Honestly never really liked the 'w' usage, myself. "Weni, Wini, Wichi" sounds a bit silly really.

DoW

"War. War never changes." - Fallout

4000pts
3000pts
1000pts
2500pts 
   
Made in us
Raging Ravener




Riding a Carnifex

is BAAL "bay-yul" or "ball"?

i havent been able to get a definite answer


Automatically Appended Next Post:
btw, i say tyranid "teer-rah-nid"

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/08/07 16:42:25


2400 points Tyranids
4800 points Blood Angels

Your sarcasm will not affect me, your serious will.

 
   
Made in us
Stealthy Kroot Stalker






U.S.

I'm pretty sure I heard Tyranids sounding like tyranny in DoW2 Retribution
   
Made in us
Battleship Captain





NYC

Here's one that everyone seems to have their own interpretation of: Elysian

I say it :uh-lie-sea-in

but I've heard
uh-leash-in
eh-leasy-in
and others.

Thoughts?

Dakka member since 2012/01/09 16:44:06

Rick's Cards&Games 1000pt Tourney: 2nd
Legion's Winter Showdown 1850: 2nd Place
Snake Eyes 1000pt Mixed Doubles: 3rd Place

Elysian 105th Skylance W:37-L:3-D:6 in 6th Edition

The Captain does HH:Imperial Fists! Tale of Four Gamers Plog (New Batrep posted!) 
   
Made in se
Ferocious Black Templar Castellan






Sweden

Elysium is pronounced ɪˈli.ʒi.əm. Elysian is pronounced the same way, except an at the end instad of um.

For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back. 
   
Made in us
Dakka Veteran



Eye of Terra.

Phototoxin wrote:
dpal666 wrote:Agree with the pronunciations, but one HUGE error in the thread for me.

Enunciation... ih-nuhn-see-ey-shuhn


no offense to anyone here, but that's been buggin me.


Amen

This is annunciation:


LOl, why did no one catch this?

an·nun·ci·a·tion (-nns-shn)
n.
1. The act of announcing.
2. An announcement; a proclamation.
3. Annunciation Christianity
a. The angel Gabriel's announcement to the Virgin Mary of the Incarnation.
b. The feast celebrating this event.
c. March 25, the day on which this feast is observed.


Edit: Er, no one but a few...

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/07 17:52:16


 
   
Made in au
[MOD]
Making Stuff






Under the couch

LunaHound wrote:grim la dus the re clue c ar ch

And again, it's 'Grimaldus' ... not 'Grimladus'...

 
   
Made in us
Ship's Officer





Reading, UK

dufus0001 wrote:is BAAL "bay-yul" or "ball"?

i havent been able to get a definite answer
Assuming the name is based on the prince of Hell here it's pronounced "BAYL" (or like 'bail' in a courtroom).

The Blizzard character from Diablo 2, Baal the Lord of Destruction is also pronounced the same way.

"Ball' predator sounds just as silly as when people say Imperial Guard "Chim-eras". Imperial Guard vehicles are often named after Greek or Roman Mythological beasts/characters (Chimera, Basilisk, Atlas, Gorgon, Manticore, Hydra, Medusa, Griffon, Collosus) I assume they would follow the same pronunciation.

DoW

"War. War never changes." - Fallout

4000pts
3000pts
1000pts
2500pts 
   
Made in ca
Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God





Inactive

insaniak wrote:
LunaHound wrote:grim la dus the re clue c ar ch

And again, it's 'Grimaldus' ... not 'Grimladus'...



lol oops :'D

*edit wait no, I pronounced it off OP's spelling

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/07 22:31:40


Paused
◙▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
           ◂◂  ►  ▐ ▌  ◼  ▸▸
          ʳʷ   ᵖˡᵃʸ  ᵖᵃᵘˢᵉ  ˢᵗᵒᵖ   ᶠᶠ 
   
Made in gb
Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator





Classified

dufus0001 wrote:is BAAL "bay-yul" or "ball"?

Neither. It's "Baa-l", a long "a" sound, the way an RP English accent would pronounce "bath".



Red Hunters: 2000 points Grey Knights: 2000 points Black Legion: 600 points and counting 
   
Made in us
Raging Ravener




Riding a Carnifex

English Assassin wrote:
Neither. It's "Baa-l", a long "a" sound, the way an RP English accent would pronounce "bath".


you are contradicting yourself friend. a long or hard (giggidy) 'A' sound makes the sound "aye" whereas a short or soft 'A' sound makes an "aah" sound. bath has a short 'A' sound

2400 points Tyranids
4800 points Blood Angels

Your sarcasm will not affect me, your serious will.

 
   
Made in us
Pile of Necron Spare Parts




Indianapolis, Indiana

I've always said C'Tan with an 's' sound, but I'm starting lean the other way.

I've always said "Shimaera" because of a foreword in Ender's Shadow by Orson Scott Card, but it turns out most of internet agrees it is a hard 'k' sound.

Also, Commorragh sounds like Gamora, but I prefer the way the archon says it in Soulstorm, with the emphasis on the last syllable.
   
Made in us
Ship's Officer





Reading, UK

TheCaptain wrote:Here's one that everyone seems to have their own interpretation of: Elysian

I say it :uh-lie-sea-in

but I've heard
uh-leash-in
eh-leasy-in
and others.

Thoughts?
I always pronounce it the second way this guy says it: here.

But, again, that's probably just because the first time I heard it was in reference to the Greek name for one of the parts of the Afterlife - The Elysian Fields (or Elysium, go figure).

DoW

"War. War never changes." - Fallout

4000pts
3000pts
1000pts
2500pts 
   
Made in us
The Conquerer






Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios

I always pronounced Baal like Ball.

Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines

Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.

MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





Ailaros wrote:I've always pronounced the "ch" in Catachan as a "ch", not a "kh".

As for chimera, you have to be really careful about beating people up about pronounciation. The letter X from ancient Greek is very, very poorly standardized.

For example, you pronounce chiropractic with a "kh" sound, but you pronounce chariot with a "ch" sound. Both of them are Greek words starting with the same letter, but they're pronounced different ways in english.

And in any case, the original greek was Khaimeira, which is how nobody pronounces it anyways, so we're all wrong...


Really? Wikipedia says it's Χίμαιρα, would would be khim-ai-ra.

Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:

jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics.
 
   
Made in au
Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight





Australia

dufus0001 wrote:
English Assassin wrote:
Neither. It's "Baa-l", a long "a" sound, the way an RP English accent would pronounce "bath".


you are contradicting yourself friend. a long or hard (giggidy) 'A' sound makes the sound "aye" whereas a short or soft 'A' sound makes an "aah" sound. bath has a short 'A' sound


No, the short sound of A is what you'd hear in cat or hat. Baal should be pronounced like the sound in bar, car or master.

"Did you ever notice how in the Bible, when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel? Did you ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? A whole existence spent praising your God, but always with one wing dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?" 
   
Made in us
Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





Fort Benning, Georgia

What's the concensus on Roboute Guilliman?

I go Row-boo Ghee-a-men. Anyone else?

What about Leman Russ? Lay-men Russ?

Also I haven't seen it yet, but I say Zench. One syllable.

I've also found that different parts of the world pronounce words differently (who would have thought?)
   
Made in us
Ship's Officer





Reading, UK

Kaldor wrote:
dufus0001 wrote:
English Assassin wrote:
Neither. It's "Baa-l", a long "a" sound, the way an RP English accent would pronounce "bath".


you are contradicting yourself friend. a long or hard (giggidy) 'A' sound makes the sound "aye" whereas a short or soft 'A' sound makes an "aah" sound. bath has a short 'A' sound


No, the short sound of A is what you'd hear in cat or hat. Baal should be pronounced like the sound in bar, car or master.
I have to disagree with the "bar/car/master" translation.

http://cheetah.eb.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?baal0001.wav=baal - Mirriam Webster

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Baal - Free Online Dictionary

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/baal - Dictionary.com, however, lists the first translation as Australian slang 'Bahl' (meaning 'no') with the historical/biblical/daemonic version 'BAY-uhl'.

http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=baal - lists both, but BAY-uhl first.

http://betterdaysarecoming.com/bible/pronunciation.html#b - Lists the biblical pronunciation is BAY-uhl (However the Hebrew pronunciation is "Ba'-al" with a glottal stop in the middle (imagine you're from Saff Lahndan and you're saying 'water'))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giiUTNUL1-U - Obviously someone felt the need to REALLY rub it in. The comments are the best part of this.

In the poem The Destruction of Sennacherib (1815) by Lord Byron, he rhymes it with "wail"

"And the tents were all silent, the banners alone,
The lances unlifted, the trumpets unblown.
And the widows of Ashur are loud in their wail,
And the idols are broke in the temple of Baal;
And the might of the Gentile, unsmote by the sword,
Hath melted like snow in the glance of the Lord!"

Plus we all remember the infamous quote upon discovering Duriel in Diablo II: "LOOKING FOR BAAL?" *SWIPE-SWIPE SWIPE-SWIPE OM NOM NOM!*

I squished his maggots for a good 2 minutes before wandering over to rescue Tyrael

DoW

"War. War never changes." - Fallout

4000pts
3000pts
1000pts
2500pts 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut





Biloxi, MS USA

DeffDred wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Saim Hann = Sam Hain (Celtic feast)


It's SAHwen or SAHween.

As in, Halloween.


Actually, it(the craftworld) IS pronounced Sam Hine by the studio guys if you ask them. It was also pointed out in the 3rd edition Craftworld sub-dex as the proper pronunciation.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/08 04:58:55


You know you're really doing something when you can make strangers hate you over the Internet. - Mauleed
Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring. - Aegis Grimm
Hallowed is the All Pie
The Before Times: A Place That Celebrates The World That Was 
   
 
Forum Index » 40K General Discussion
Go to: