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A conversation I had with my fiancee while watching Ultramarines.

'So, who are these guys'
'They're Space Marines. Basically Warrior Monks bred to fight. their whole life is spent training to fight, or actually fighting.'
'Do they get paid?'
'No.'
'Do they get time for women?'
'No. They're chaste.'
'Do they get anything for fighting their whole lives?'
'No, they're warrior monks. Their reward is service in the name of mankinds Emperor.'
'They need to form a union.'

Observation from wife with an MBA:

"Let me get this straight: you put together models possibly change them using sculpting putty and 1,000 tools, paint them using 10,000 paints, memorize this coffee table-back-breaker-book, memorize this smaller but similar Codex and other ones your opponents use, cobble together terrain using 50,000 items of junk, argue incessantly over the finer points of rules, calculate army lists with arcane points values using excel or a dedicated database, models must look like they have what you chose, OH WHEN IN GOD'S NAME DO YOU ACTUALLY GET TO PLAY A GAME??"

It is not the dumbest thing I ever heard but a heck of an observation...

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:

 kronk wrote:
"So, is this an expensive game to get into?"

Had someone mention that at a local gaming convention this weekend, I pointed out that it in the end is much cheaper than the game he was playing(Magic the Gathering) because though there is a huge upfront cost after the army is built you dont need to invest much money besides the occasional new unit or maintinance costs(glue paint etc for repairs).

It's not really cheaper. I invested about $500 a while ago in Magic and I haven't paid a dime since. And yes, I have strong current Standard decks.
And Modern and a few others.

 Talizvar wrote:
Observation from wife with an MBA:

"Let me get this straight: you put together models possibly change them using sculpting putty and 1,000 tools, paint them using 10,000 paints, memorize this coffee table-back-breaker-book, memorize this smaller but similar Codex and other ones your opponents use, cobble together terrain using 50,000 items of junk, argue incessantly over the finer points of rules, calculate army lists with arcane points values using excel or a dedicated database, models must look like they have what you chose, OH WHEN IN GOD'S NAME DO YOU ACTUALLY GET TO PLAY A GAME??"

It is not the dumbest thing I ever heard but a heck of an observation...

Hmm very astute observation.

 Talizvar wrote:
Observation from wife with an MBA:

Well, they don't call them "Master of Bugger-ALL" for nothing ... (Bugger-all is a more polite way of saying SFA.).

 Marshal Farrow Calahan wrote:
5 year old Sister asks me "Why do the 'Nids have so many Tentacles?"

To that I had no answer...

'Because Hentai', with tentacles the answer is always 'Because Hentai'.

rigeld2 wrote:

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:

 kronk wrote:
"So, is this an expensive game to get into?"

Had someone mention that at a local gaming convention this weekend, I pointed out that it in the end is much cheaper than the game he was playing(Magic the Gathering) because though there is a huge upfront cost after the army is built you dont need to invest much money besides the occasional new unit or maintinance costs(glue paint etc for repairs).

It's not really cheaper. I invested about $500 a while ago in Magic and I haven't paid a dime since. And yes, I have strong current Standard decks.
And Modern and a few others.

500 dollars buys a large chunk of an army that will never cycle out.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:

 kronk wrote:
"So, is this an expensive game to get into?"

Had someone mention that at a local gaming convention this weekend, I pointed out that it in the end is much cheaper than the game he was playing(Magic the Gathering) because though there is a huge upfront cost after the army is built you dont need to invest much money besides the occasional new unit or maintinance costs(glue paint etc for repairs).

It's not really cheaper. I invested about $500 a while ago in Magic and I haven't paid a dime since. And yes, I have strong current Standard decks.
And Modern and a few others.

500 dollars buys a large chunk of an army that will never cycle out.

Until the next codex or ruleset comes out of course.

Not if you use that $500 for "core units".
My 100 space marines with bolters are still space marines with bolters, 5 editions after I started collecting them.

The models may have changed, but the core rules for them are essentially the same.

What exactly do you do with those toy soldiers?

Why do you need so many of the same toy soldier?

Asked by the GF...

Overheard a conversation between that kid (you know the one...smelly, spends ages "just looking", pesters customers...) and the FLGS owner.

"This is too expensive. Couldn't you sell it to me for a penny?"

"To YOU? No."

 DarknessEternal wrote:
500 dollars buys a large chunk of an army that will never cycle out.

And? I haven't spent a dime (aside from drafts which I do about as often as I do 40k tournaments and the cost is the same - and I'm guaranteed to get at least 4 packs for Magic) in years. And even buying core units - I have 70 Genestealers. That kind of army isn't as effective in 6th, so it's essentially cycled out.

rigeld2 wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:
500 dollars buys a large chunk of an army that will never cycle out.

And? I haven't spent a dime (aside from drafts which I do about as often as I do 40k tournaments and the cost is the same - and I'm guaranteed to get at least 4 packs for Magic) in years. And even buying core units - I have 70 Genestealers. That kind of army isn't as effective in 6th, so it's essentially cycled out.

So we should compare Standard magic to games of 40k
vs
Legacy/Modern to Apoc Games of 40k

Regarldess if you want to play competitive standard you're looking @ 500+ on a deck.

If you want to play competitive Modern think about 600+

Legacy 95% of the competitive decks land base will be 500+ Decks altogether prolly around 1300-1500 sometimes more, especially if you want to play blue.

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:
Regarldess if you want to play competitive standard you're looking @ 500+ on a deck.

If you want to play competitive Modern think about 600+

Legacy 95% of the competitive decks land base will be 500+ Decks altogether prolly around 1300-1500 sometimes more, especially if you want to play blue.

That's really not true whatsoever. We're straying really far from the topic, but http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=1062609 for example took 1st in a PTQ qualifier.

Thats not true about Legacy either - there are a lot of strong decks that don't need all dual lands.

 brainscan wrote:
What exactly do you do with those toy soldiers?

Why do you need so many of the same toy soldier?

Asked by the GF...

Chrissake, I ask myself that question all the time. It's why my Imperial Fists are getting a quick paint job on their shoulders to become a DIY chapter.

Conversation with wife:

"What's your book about?"

"Spess mahreens.(the only way I can pronounce this now)"

"What colour are they?"

"Red"

"So not black like the ones you have?"

"No, red."

"And not blue like the ones that look like little smurfs?"

"No, red"

"So, what are the red ones like?"

At this point I launch into a lecture on the creation of the primarchs, the inception of the legiones astartes and the terrible curse that afflicts the blood angels, along with the tragic fate of their primarch.

I eventually stop talking, looking into my wife's glazed-over eyes.

Wife: "I like the blue ones"

After playing 4th edition for a good number of months, gaining confidence in the game slowly as my buddy was playing nidzilla to my space marines, a new player shows up. A young teen, 12-14 years old, comes in saying he bought a new army and wants to know if someone can teach him how to play. Having a fim-ish grip on the rules I offer. As he is bringing in his models I notice that to my horror they are tyranids. Turns out the kid happen to run nidzilla as well, oh joy <sarcasm>. I put on a good face and teach him the game, getting tabled roughly on turn 3 or 4. Afterwards I asked him if he had any questions and he responded thus, out loud and for the entire store to hear. "Are you new at this game or do you just suck?" The laughter was deafening.

 LoneLictor wrote:
Why doesn't everyone play Ultramarines?

I would laugh but It's true. Too many smurfs.

"SO are purity seals another way of saying they are virgins or is that a fetish for marines?"

 Asherian Command wrote:
"SO are purity seals another way of saying they are virgins or is that a fetish for marines?"

Heh. Actually It's a bit of both. Thats actually a good question! lol

"What is the best army" is always kind of a face palm comment for me.

"Can you build and paint my models for me?" I understand a lot of people aren't good with a brush, Emporer knows I haven't won any Golden Demon awards, but it just seems to take away from the point of the hobby. Little kids and friends I can help, but guys who are my age......I give them a couple links to painting tutorials.

"Why aren't these models painted like in the book?" Referring to NIB models.

some kid asked me if my saint celestine model was ghazgul thraka..... beat that

 DPBellathrom wrote:
some kid asked me if my saint celestine model was ghazgul thraka..... beat that

Still not as fail as the question I was asked ( read the 1'st post ).

One guy at our 40k Facebook group write that he was asked by some guy who watched his game: "Is this chess?"

-Loki- wrote:'They need to form a union.'

My best two are


then-girlfriend: "Is this game very hard?"

me: "Well, there are a lot of rules, but you don't need to use all of them, so it can be kind of easy if you keep things simple."

then-girlfriend: "So, like scrabble?"


and


young guy at game store: "What army do you play?"

me: "I play Imperial Guard" (take out miniature and show him)

guy: "Huh. Are they any good?"

me: "Not individually, but they have a lot more of them than most other armies, so they're strong as a whole."

guy: "So, why do you play this army if it isn't any good?"

Because dey has tanks!

I got asked if my Green Tide (being used against Eldar in heavy fortified trench/bunker positions) were LOTR.

'This is Helm's Deep, right?'

Now, i could have missed it, but i'm pretty sure the Uruk Hai didn't have a Stompa and three bommers zooming overhead

Nah they were there. How else would the Uruk Hai have blown up the wall? That guy looking like the Olympic Torch barer? No, no, no that was merely a sports fanatic. <Sarcasm sign>
IIII
Remembered another good one. Someone walked into the store one time and started watched what everyone was doing. He went around to each game group and asked what each was doing. When he got to us 40K players he asked "Hey this some kinda super sci-fi chess?" Our only response... kinda, sorta, not really.

"Most of you guys in the military are trained for this?"

 arinnoor wrote:
Nah they were there. How else would the Uruk Hai have blown up the wall? That guy looking like the Olympic Torch barer? No, no, no that was merely a sports fanatic. <Sarcasm sign>
IIII
Remembered another good one. Someone walked into the store one time and started watched what everyone was doing. He went around to each game group and asked what each was doing. When he got to us 40K players he asked "Hey this some kinda super sci-fi chess?" Our only response... kinda, sorta, not really.

I remember once somebody walked into my FLGS and asked if we had any [picture] painting supplies...

Lord Castellan wrote:

 arinnoor wrote:
Nah they were there. How else would the Uruk Hai have blown up the wall? That guy looking like the Olympic Torch barer? No, no, no that was merely a sports fanatic. <Sarcasm sign>
IIII
Remembered another good one. Someone walked into the store one time and started watched what everyone was doing. He went around to each game group and asked what each was doing. When he got to us 40K players he asked "Hey this some kinda super sci-fi chess?" Our only response... kinda, sorta, not really.

I remember once somebody walked into my FLGS and asked if we had any [picture] painting supplies...

But you do! You have supplies for painting really small pictures!

I don't deal with a lot of people who don't know anything about 40k on a regular basis, but I can tell you that the stupidest question I've ever seen on this forum is whether the Tau are too 'good' for 40k. Some people have clearly never read Orwell or Huxley. At least not enough to see the similarities.

 brainscan wrote:
What exactly do you do with those toy soldiers?

Why do you need so many of the same toy soldier?

Asked by the GF...

For the same reason you need so many shoes. I need to accessorize certain units!