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Seriously, with the success of the walking dead and the general zombie high going on right now, making a good zombie action flick wouldn't be hard. Put Brad Pitt in there and you have a sure home run.

That doesn't mean you have to take an existing IP and change basically everything about it.

Make an Ex Heroes movie and ride the Avengers wave too. Pitt could make a great Dragon.

What if they purposefully designed the marketing campaign to be misleading? What if the whole 'one man saving the world' is just the first ten minutes and then they realize that it is to late and the rest of the film is something else? It seems odd that people have such obstinate and absolute opinions on something that is months away based on .1% of the finished product. This isn't even a trailer, it is a commercial for a trailer.

 Ahtman wrote:
What if they purposefully designed the marketing campaign to be misleading? What if the whole 'one man saving the world' is just the first ten minutes and then they realize that it is to late and the rest of the film is something else? It seems odd that people have such obstinate and absolute opinions on something that is months away based on .1% of the finished product. This isn't even a trailer, it is a commercial for a trailer.

I like pizza. If someone hands me a box with "pizza" written on it, and it smells funky and when I open it up it looks like a slightly rotten hoagie, I don't need to eat all of it and spend an afternoon ruminating on it to decide that it isn't pizza.

That was just....just awful.

 Bromsy wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
What if they purposefully designed the marketing campaign to be misleading? What if the whole 'one man saving the world' is just the first ten minutes and then they realize that it is to late and the rest of the film is something else? It seems odd that people have such obstinate and absolute opinions on something that is months away based on .1% of the finished product. This isn't even a trailer, it is a commercial for a trailer.

I like pizza. If someone hands me a box with "pizza" written on it, and it smells funky and when I open it up it looks like a slightly rotten hoagie, I don't need to eat all of it and spend an afternoon ruminating on it to decide that it isn't pizza.

You are a poet

Can't understand why Brad Pitt's production company would buy the rights for this years ago, then make a film that looks like it has nothing in common except the title and the fact that it has zombies in it?

Apparently it is part of a trilogy. Did you guys watch LOTR, the fellowship.

Kinda like that I guess. I dunno though, even if I am a fan of pitt, I really am annoyed at the premise and the execution.

The book I know is kind of confusing to turn into a movie, and still remain a solid zombie flick (having many different heroes doesn't help a movie) and the length as well....urgh.

I think it does merit a watch, but as a straight to DVD release, rather than the 30 dollar movie ticket.

 infinite_array wrote:
Holy hellfire! That's not a horde, that's a friggin wave of zombies!

C'mon Hollywood, why couldn't we have nice slow zombies?

They turned zombies into ripper swarms! Holy jehuzifats. I don't know if I like that. Part of the charm of the Zombie games is that you can release your inner psycho. Now they're killing machines that would give the Alien Queen pause.


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 Ahtman wrote:
Why can't everything be the same? I hate anything that expands on an idea, or changes it even remotely. Without seeing it I will know that it is terrible since it isn't something I already know. Certainly I will never let it stand on its own merits to determine its value, just that it isn't a transliteration of another work is enough for me to know that it is the worst thing that has happened ever.

Looks godawful.....

Time to polish up on my surfing skills..... Hey surfing Zombies will be a cool way to get to college
But more to the point since when did zombies come in TSUNAMIS!!!!

I might watch this later when it comes out just for the pure sake of it

 master of ordinance wrote:
Time to polish up on my surfing skills..... Hey surfing Zombies will be a cool way to get to college
But more to the point since when did zombies come in TSUNAMIS!!!!

Lets go surfing now, everybody surfing now, come on go surfing with me....

One man does save the world in the book:


As for the waves, having been in the odd crowd surge in my time allot of human bodies cane move at a suprising lick, and that's with the participants resisting it!

I'll give it a chance, the whole rescue my daughter thing could be a bit of a bore but hey it's a zombie movie: not many of them are masterpieces but most are enjoyable.

That said if none of it is about the Queen holding out and kicking arse at Windor Castle then I may change my mind!

While I'm not entirely against deviation from source material ( I belive The Walking Dead series has done a nice job), I'd have prefered that the makers of WWZ had stuck closer to Brooks' work, which by the ( admitedly limited) information I have both seen and read , they have'nt.
Now as he often does, Ahtman brings up some good points, and I will reserve "final judgement" until I've actually seen the movie...but...I'm honestly not very hopeful about this one and will enter the theatre expecting to be dissapointed.

The book was in documentary form chronicling the plight of various people around the world.

The movie looks like one surfer dude trying to catch the gnarliest wave of undead ever while his girlfriend frets about missing her manicure appointment.

Totally disassociated Hollywood interpretations subject to interpretation of course.

 notprop wrote:

That said if none of it is about the Queen holding out and kicking arse at Windor Castle then I may change my mind!

What? I just ordered the book based on that little note alone.

They had to re-shoot the movie last year (some parts... ).

Usually when that happens, it's not a good sign.

 notprop wrote:
One man does save the world in the book:

Spoiler:

The Apartite South African chap who came up with the save what you can and move to a safe haven plan

As for the waves, having been in the odd crowd surge in my time allot of human bodies cane move at a suprising lick, and that's with the participants resisting it!

I'll give it a chance, the whole rescue my daughter thing could be a bit of a bore but hey it's a zombie movie: not many of them are masterpieces but most are enjoyable.

That said if none of it is about the Queen holding out and kicking arse at Windor Castle then I may change my mind!

I can understand a realistic wave. Superfast ninja ripper swarm waves (like the second scene coming down the alley and going up the wall) thats harder.

 Frazzled wrote:

 notprop wrote:

That said if none of it is about the Queen holding out and kicking arse at Windor Castle then I may change my mind!

What? I just ordered the book based on that little note alone.

Well, there's one of the other elements I've wondered about...given that the book encompasses a " World view" of the Apoc I honestly hope thhat the film won't just become a " Murica!! Feth yeah!! BOOMPOWBANG!!" mess.
I still belive the best way to have done this film would have been to cast Pitt in the role of the interviewer and have all the action occur in flash back sequences.

I agree...instead I expect they'll have Brad Pitt attaching chainsaws to a Seabreacher and riding the waves of zombies to freedom with his daughter

Were those zombies I saw, or a telekinetic force field using corpses as material to form pseudopods.

 Orlanth wrote:
Were those zombies I saw, or a telekinetic force field using corpses as material to form pseudopods.

The Lord of Change Arises!

It all makes sense now, they aren't Zombies the're Weegies. I suppose the CGI was there to tone them down so that their mass behaviour was more 'realistic'. I suppose in the plot origin is based around someone founding a way of mixing crack with Buckfast and unleashed a shitstorm of global payback.

If they just wanted to make a crazy special effect driven zombie movie they easily could have done that without the world war z IP.......I don't get it. Zombies can't climb in world war z, you could find safety by climbing a tree. This movie has Zombicanes that can apparently fly! No Bueno!

 Andrew1975 wrote:
If they just wanted to make a crazy special effect driven zombie movie they easily could have done that without the world war z IP.......I don't get it.

It isn't that difficult to understand. An original title would get less funding, but you take a licensed product plus a few well known names and you can get the money to make a big movie. These things aren't free, you know.

I still have trouble believing this is going to be "I Am Legend: Zombie Edition" with the one man saving the world. We still have so little info to go on, and I can think of movies that were purposefully marketed one way to avoid spoilers (Cabin in the Woods) or badly marketed as something other then they were (Looper, 12 Monkeys) that at this point looking at the people involved and looking at the source material I have to believe it isn't a gneric zombie film with a big FX budget. Brad Pitt has been pretty choosey about his roles for some time, and I don't see why he would suddenly fall back to generic Hollywood action/horror all of a sudden.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Andrew1975 wrote:
If they just wanted to make a crazy special effect driven zombie movie they easily could have done that without the world war z IP.......I don't get it.

It isn't that difficult to understand. An original title would get less funding, but you take a licensed product plus a few well known names and you can get the money to make a big movie. These things aren't free, you know.

I still have trouble believing this is going to be "I Am Legend: Zombie Edition" with the one man saving the world. We still have so little info to go on, and I can think of movies that were purposefully marketed one way to avoid spoilers (Cabin in the Woods) or badly marketed as something other then they were (Looper, 12 Monkeys) that at this point looking at the people involved and looking at the source material I have to believe it isn't a gneric zombie film with a big FX budget. Brad Pitt has been pretty choosey about his roles for some time, and I don't see why he would suddenly fall back to generic Hollywood action/horror all of a sudden.

He's had to be. Every "epic" film he's been in for several years has bombed (and this is from someone who thinks he's an excellent actor actually). He really needs to approve stay in better films.

 Ahtman wrote:
Why can't everything be the same? I hate anything that expands on an idea, or changes it even remotely. Without seeing it I will know that it is terrible since it isn't something I already know. Certainly I will never let it stand on its own merits to determine its value, just that it isn't a transliteration of another work is enough for me to know that it is the worst thing that has happened ever.

I'm generally with you there, but in this case I can understand why some might be disappointed. The trailer looks like straightforward zombie fare, and the book tended to come at the subject from an angle. That has nothing to do with whether the film is good or bad, but again, I can understand why some might be disappointed by the approach the trailer suggests.

Admittedly, my recommendations of the book to non-geeks ("It's well-written and not quite what you think.") have gone largely ignored. So Hollywood may be wi$e to give people a movie that meets with their expectations. Or, as you suggested later, at least give them a trailer that meets with their expectations.

Actually, almost none of them have 'bombed'. They weren't blockbusters (though this is what I have been saying) but I don't think any of them were ever meant to be. Tree of Life, Moneyball, Burn After Reading, Curious Case of Benjamin Button, and Inglorious Basterds all did well and made money. I'm not sure if I should count the voicework in Megamind or not. The only film that didn't make money was The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, which was an amazing movie and the fact it underperformed is criminal. The closest thing to generic Hollywood action films are the Ocean's films, and those all did we, economically.

 Ahtman wrote:
Actually, almost none of them have 'bombed'. They weren't blockbusters (though this is what I have been saying) but I don't think any of them were ever meant to be. Tree of Life, Moneyball, Burn After Reading, Curious Case of Benjamin Button, and Inglorious Basterds all did well and made money. I'm not sure if I should count the voicework in Megamind or not. The only film that didn't make money was The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, which was an amazing movie and the fact it underperformed is criminal. The closest thing to generic Hollywood action films are the Ocean's films, and those all did we, economically.

and Fight Club... awesome film man.

 Frazzled wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
Time to polish up on my surfing skills..... Hey surfing Zombies will be a cool way to get to college
But more to the point since when did zombies come in TSUNAMIS!!!!

Lets go surfing now, everybody surfing now, come on go surfing with me....

Zak don't surf...

I could have sworn Troy flopped even though I liked it. But I could be wrong.....it's happening a lot today...