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2012/11/13 21:26:27
Subject: Re:Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
KalashnikovMarine wrote: I protest being characterized as an ignorant American fethhead there. I just said that they (Roos) were more aggressive then a North American deer.
Any way you lot have spiders that eat birds. I have no further questions.
I think an easier list would be "Animals of Australia that won't kill you".
As to bears I find that especially with the far northern variants in Alaska, pepper spray will just make the furry hate machine about to ruin your universe that much angrier with you. For the most part though bears will usually leave you alone if you leave them alone.
Mythology wise I run into more ignorance the other way, people not respecting how dangerous a wild animal is enough. This is especially true with wolves and coyotes in North America, and I'd bet it goes for dingos down under with people who aren't used to them as part of the local fauna. Wild dogs are smart, agile and very adaptive predators. Wolves are something we don't remember the need to be scared of any more in the Americas because they've been gone for so long, but a single human alone? Well the Liam Neeson flick "The Grey" was more accurate in certain parts then most people thought. I see it even more with Yotes then wolves because Yotes are prevalent everywhere, but they're getting bigger, and are starting to work in packs more and more often. Which is actually quite fascinating from a study perspective but if you're a pet owner or a parent, even in suburbia, if you're out towards the plains or the foothills in the American West you need to keep an eye out.
Then you get the people that like to have a wolf or coyote/dog crossbreed and have them around kids. That's always a good time when the feral nature kicks in.
2012/11/13 22:47:06
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
So your ancestors didn't hunt all your dangerous native wildlife to extinction before conservationists came into existence? Opportunity missed. Did you never get taught the one about The Ant and the Grasshopper?
2012/11/13 23:44:41
Subject: Re:Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
whembly wrote: What about the Tasmanian Devil? Aren't they dangerous? (I have no idea)
Might have been, i think they are extinct now.
The Tasmanian tiger is extinct (supposedly. You still hear of the occasional unconfirmed sighting). The Tassie devil is endangered (largely due to a nasty face cancer that is spread by contact... in a pool of creatures that solve territory disputes by biting each other in the face) and is a cantankerous little bugger. They're listed as potentially dangerous, in that they can give you a nasty bite if you piss them off, but they're also fairly shy.
2012/11/14 00:06:19
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
Frazzled wrote: I had a chicken hawk fly low and give TBone the evil eye once. I threw a rock at it and grabbed up the wieners. When I came out with the Remy it had boogied.
A hawk almost ate my dachshund once while my family was camping.
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2012/11/14 00:19:35
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
Frazzled wrote: I had a chicken hawk fly low and give TBone the evil eye once. I threw a rock at it and grabbed up the wieners. When I came out with the Remy it had boogied.
A hawk almost ate my dachshund once while my family was camping.
YOU BASTARDS!
I had owls make moves when camping on a little dog we had when I was a kid. Little dog turned the tables and grabbed a hold of it and Frazzled Sr. then demonstrated how you can in fact grab and eat an owl after a nice roasting. Yea Dad!*
*Mess with our dogs and we'll cook you and serve you for dinner, a family tradition for two generations.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2012/11/14 10:29:33
Subject: Re:Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
whembly wrote: What about the Tasmanian Devil? Aren't they dangerous? (I have no idea)
Might have been, i think they are extinct now.
The Tasmanian tiger is extinct (supposedly. You still hear of the occasional unconfirmed sighting). The Tassie devil is endangered (largely due to a nasty face cancer that is spread by contact... in a pool of creatures that solve territory disputes by biting each other in the face) and is a cantankerous little bugger. They're listed as potentially dangerous, in that they can give you a nasty bite if you piss them off, but they're also fairly shy.
Shy? I don't think they are that shy, in documentaries on them they seem very scary
And really? A hawk would go for a dog? I thought they went for things the size of rats more than the size of dogs...
Isn't there some fat yellow/black lizard which is crazy poisonous in the southern parts of the states/in mexico? Gila monster or something?
I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own...
2012/11/14 10:30:52
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
Frazzled wrote: I had a chicken hawk fly low and give TBone the evil eye once. I threw a rock at it and grabbed up the wieners. When I came out with the Remy it had boogied.
A hawk almost ate my dachshund once while my family was camping.
YOU BASTARDS! I had owls make moves when camping on a little dog we had when I was a kid. Little dog turned the tables and grabbed a hold of it and Frazzled Sr. then demonstrated how you can in fact grab and eat an owl after a nice roasting. Yea Dad!*
*Mess with our dogs and we'll cook you and serve you for dinner, a family tradition for two generations.
^I lol'd.
And let us not forgot the Saltwater Croc, putting 'Gators to shame since forever.
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2012/11/14 11:09:33
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
motyak wrote: Ok this is kind of spawned by the chat between kalashnikov and insaniak in another thread, about how kalashnikov thought roo's would beat you/drown you, because of what he'd head.
Insaniak set him straight, that you are more likely to die from one of the dumb fethers jumping infront of your car at 120km down a country road than beating you down.
Yeah, you're not likely to die from them (there's only one recorded case in history), but wild Kangaroos CAN be dangerous, especially the males of some of the larger breeds. They will scratch the fark out of you however, and give you some bruised kidneys if you try to mess with them. The thing is that they're not generally aggressive to people, so it makes attacks very rare, however if they want something from you, or you're provoking them, you might end up in a bad state.
I know that back in the 1970s, my mother was feeding a kangaroo while traveling around the outback. The roo finished eating the bread she gave him, saw another loaf in the back of the car, and decided the quickest way to get it was just to throw her out of the way, which left her on the ground and bleeding. That's not to say they're going to attack on sight, they're actually not very aggressive generally, but like any wild animal (especially ones with claws and powerful limbs), treat them with some caution.
Image for example only, blatantly stolen off the interwebs.
Anyway, for other dangerous creatures, don't forget our seas! We also get box jellyfish, Irukandji jellyfish and the Blue Ringed Octopus:
The blue-ringed octopus is 12 to 20 cm (5 to 8 inches), but its venom is powerful enough to kill humans. There is no blue-ringed octopus antivenom available.
The octopus produces venom that contains tetrodotoxin, 5-hydroxytryptamine, hyaluronidase, tyramine, histamine, tryptamine, octopamine, taurine, acetylcholine, and dopamine. The major neurotoxin component of blue-ringed octopus venom was originally known as maculotoxin but was later found to be identical to tetrodotoxin,[4] a neurotoxin which is also found in pufferfish that is 10,000 times more toxic than cyanide.[5] Tetrodotoxin blocks sodium channels, causing motor paralysis and respiratory arrest within minutes of exposure, leading to cardiac arrest due to a lack of oxygen. The toxin is produced by bacteria in the salivary glands of the octopus.[6] Their venom can result in nausea, respiratory arrest, heart failure, severe and sometimes total paralysis and blindness and can lead to death within minutes if not treated. Death is usually from suffocation due to lack of oxygen to the brain.
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2012/11/14 11:13:05
Subject: Re:Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
And the stone fish. Because why wouldn't one of the world's most poisonous fish live around here as well. They seem to like to do nothing more than wait in the sand with some of the other things so you can accidentally step on them.
Stonefish stings in Australia can cause poisoning and death if not treated. The stonefish is one of the most venomous fish in the world.[8] The stonefish has venom in its dorsal spines; when stepped on by a human, the venom is forced into the foot. Most stonefish stings occur when stepped on. It is less common for the fish to sting when it is picked up.[9] Stonefish stings can occur on the beach, not just in the water, with stonefish being able to stay out of the water for up to 24 hours. They often cannot be seen easily as they look similar to rocks or coral. Stonefish antivenom is the second-most administered in Australia.
whembly wrote: What about the Tasmanian Devil? Aren't they dangerous? (I have no idea)
Might have been, i think they are extinct now.
The Tasmanian tiger is extinct (supposedly. You still hear of the occasional unconfirmed sighting). The Tassie devil is endangered (largely due to a nasty face cancer that is spread by contact... in a pool of creatures that solve territory disputes by biting each other in the face) and is a cantankerous little bugger. They're listed as potentially dangerous, in that they can give you a nasty bite if you piss them off, but they're also fairly shy.
They solve everything with face biting. Which makes it so effective at removing them sadly.
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n0t_u wrote: And the stone fish. Because why wouldn't one of the world's most poisonous fish live around here as well. They seem to like to do nothing more than wait in the sand with some of the other things so you can accidentally step on them. Stonefish stings in Australia can cause poisoning and death if not treated. The stonefish is one of the most venomous fish in the world.[8] The stonefish has venom in its dorsal spines; when stepped on by a human, the venom is forced into the foot. Most stonefish stings occur when stepped on. It is less common for the fish to sting when it is picked up.[9] Stonefish stings can occur on the beach, not just in the water, with stonefish being able to stay out of the water for up to 24 hours. They often cannot be seen easily as they look similar to rocks or coral. Stonefish antivenom is the second-most administered in Australia.
Definitely one of the biggest pricks in our country.
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2012/11/14 11:34:18
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
whembly wrote: What about the Tasmanian Devil? Aren't they dangerous? (I have no idea)
Might have been, i think they are extinct now.
The Tasmanian tiger is extinct (supposedly. You still hear of the occasional unconfirmed sighting). The Tassie devil is endangered (largely due to a nasty face cancer that is spread by contact... in a pool of creatures that solve territory disputes by biting each other in the face) and is a cantankerous little bugger. They're listed as potentially dangerous, in that they can give you a nasty bite if you piss them off, but they're also fairly shy.
Shy? I don't think they are that shy, in documentaries on them they seem very scary
And really? A hawk would go for a dog? I thought they went for things the size of rats more than the size of dogs...
Isn't there some fat yellow/black lizard which is crazy poisonous in the southern parts of the states/in mexico? Gila monster or something?
Chicken hawks and eagles will go for larger prey. It should be remembered, Our masters (wiener dogs) come in full size, tweener (15-25), and mini (about 8 lb). Minis were designed to go after rabbits, but aren't terribly large (and look like a child's picture of a dog-outsized head, elephant like ears, trunk feet, and er very manly parts, on a small body). TBone's ears are as big as our mountain dogs. Unfortunately his farts our outsized as well, and have been recently delared as a violation of human rights by the UN. But hey, when you're 98, have three teeth, a fethed up heart from heart worms, seizures and cancer, but you're still tough enough not to put up with anyone's gak, you're allowed a few idiosyncracies.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/11/14 12:10:35
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
Eiríkr wrote: Thank you thread. Never have I been more averse to visiting Australia...
Oh come on, we have some cute and cuddly creatures. Like the platapus:
Oh, except the Platypus has a large venomous spike on it's back foot, and the venom causes severe pain that doesn't respond to pain killers (up to and including morphine).
But besides that, yeah, cute and cuddly.
Looking for a club in Brisbane, Australia? Come and enjoy a game and a beer at Pubhammer, our friendly club in a pub at the Junction pub in Annerley (opposite Ace Comics), Sunday nights from 6:30. All brisbanites welcome, don't wait, check out our Club Page on Facebook group for details or to organize a game. We play all sorts of board and war games, so hit us up if you're interested.
Pubhammer is Moving! Starting from the 25th of May we'll be gaming at The Junction pub (AKA The Muddy Farmer), opposite Ace Comics & Games in Annerley! Still Sunday nights from 6:30 in the Function room Come along and play Warmachine, 40k, boardgames or anything else!
2012/11/14 12:16:12
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
At least it's only the male ones. They're also filthy "psykers"; thanks in part to electrolocation. In short they can sense the electric fields generated by muscle movement.
Their venom can't kill humans though, but stuff like dogs it can.
Ok, I call foul on that Koala eating whatever that is. Koala's are strict herbivores, and drop bears are just a story told to frighten tourists. Like Hoopsnakes and jackalopes.
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2012/11/14 12:51:35
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Ok, I call fowl on that Koala eating whatever that is. Koala's are strict herbivores, and drop bears are just a story told to frighten tourists. Like Hoopsnakes and jackalopes.
But its a great picture to pivot too from a cute koala. You have to give me that.
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2012/11/14 12:53:04
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Ok, I call fowl on that Koala eating whatever that is. Koala's are strict herbivores, and drop bears are just a story told to frighten tourists. Like Hoopsnakes and jackalopes.
But its a great picture to pivot too from a cute koala. You have to give me that.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Ok, I call foul on that Koala eating whatever that is. Koala's are strict herbivores, and drop bears are just a story told to frighten tourists. Like Hoopsnakes and jackalopes.
Hah hah, you think Jackalopes aren't real? Thats a story we put out for foreign devils er tourists, else they would never come here. Of course they're real!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/11/14 13:17:18
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
Ohgodmysides. Bloody well serves him right too. They're all cute n cuddly till they start humping your leg. Man i love this country.
Also we shouldn't forgot Perenties. 4th largest lizard in the world clocking in at more 2.4 metres. While not dangerous as such they will bite if threatened and have recently found to have a slightly poisonous bite and they are FAST.
Eiríkr wrote: Thank you thread. Never have I been more averse to visiting Australia...
Oh come on, we have some cute and cuddly creatures. Like the platapus:
Oh, except the Platypus has a large venomous spike on it's back foot, and the venom causes severe pain that doesn't respond to pain killers (up to and including morphine).
But besides that, yeah, cute and cuddly.
Wow... I had no idea that the platapus are venomous! Why wasn't I told on phineas and ferb?
ARe you yanking my chain here? (goes off to do some google-fu)
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2012/11/14 16:09:19
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
Eiríkr wrote: Thank you thread. Never have I been more averse to visiting Australia...
Oh come on, we have some cute and cuddly creatures. Like the platapus:
Oh, except the Platypus has a large venomous spike on it's back foot, and the venom causes severe pain that doesn't respond to pain killers (up to and including morphine).
But besides that, yeah, cute and cuddly.
Wow... I had no idea that the platapus are venomous! Why wasn't I told on phineas and ferb?
ARe you yanking my chain here? (goes off to do some google-fu)
Yeah, they are. No idea why they need a stinger, but they do.
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2012/11/14 16:20:11
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
Dont they also have bugs the size of vans that carry off small children?
This also leads to proof of my theory that austraila was gods dumping ground for all his failed animals.
Seriously, Why do people live there?
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2012/11/14 16:24:16
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
hotsauceman1 wrote: Dont they also have bugs the size of vans that carry off small children?
This also leads to proof of my theory that austraila was gods dumping ground for all his failed animals.
Seriously, Why do people live there?
It wasn't by choice. Australia was a prison at first, and then they discovered that the coast isn't that bad compared to the rest of the continent, and began to build.
Also, minerals. Lots of nice minerals.
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2012/11/14 16:31:19
Subject: Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
hotsauceman1 wrote: Dont they also have bugs the size of vans that carry off small children?
This also leads to proof of my theory that austraila was gods dumping ground for all his failed animals.
Seriously, Why do people live there?
No... that's Alaska... they have skeeters that attacks birds. (not really, but they are fething big).
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2012/11/14 16:36:16
Subject: Re:Dangerous Animal myths of Australia and elsewhere
whembly wrote: What about the Tasmanian Devil? Aren't they dangerous? (I have no idea)
Might have been, i think they are extinct now.
The Tasmanian tiger is extinct (supposedly. You still hear of the occasional unconfirmed sighting). The Tassie devil is endangered (largely due to a nasty face cancer that is spread by contact... in a pool of creatures that solve territory disputes by biting each other in the face) and is a cantankerous little bugger. They're listed as potentially dangerous, in that they can give you a nasty bite if you piss them off, but they're also fairly shy.
Shy? I don't think they are that shy, in documentaries on them they seem very scary
And really? A hawk would go for a dog? I thought they went for things the size of rats more than the size of dogs...
Isn't there some fat yellow/black lizard which is crazy poisonous in the southern parts of the states/in mexico? Gila monster or something?
This critter here, it's fairly poisonous but it's slow and really doesn't have the urge to feth with any one. Rattlesnakes, scorpions, tarantulas and various small spiders like the black widow are more dangerous for the average person in the desert. Across the US our major direct threats are focused into a couple species of fairly dangerous snake, major carnivores (mountain lions, bears, wolves, coyotes in certain circumstances), and some very small and very dangerous spiders that also happen to be tiny and love nothing more then sneaking into your bed at night.
Other lethal eight leggers in the US include the brown recluse, while merely dangerous spiders include the large and amusingly named hobo spider and a variety of tarantulas located in the desert southwest.
The lead for dangerous snakes is a species of pit viper, known variously as the Water Moccasin and the cottonmouth, there are three subspecies in the United States and all are pretty high up the lethality chart. The popular image of the Rattlesnake, while dangerous, and not pleasant at all to receive a bite from is almost never lethal to humans.
Personally I'm hoping to get my tags for mountain lion at some point. Gotta be rather careful with that hunt though. The hunter can very easily become the hunted.
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
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