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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 10:03:10
Subject: Re:Best overall HQ
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Space Marine Librarians, a brilliant force multiplier.
Pedro Kantor, makes sternguard scoring, and who doesn't like sternguard?
Vulkan is great with an army built around him
Zahndrehk is my favourite Necron HQ, handing out USR's to friendlies, and stripping them from enemies, and phased reinforcements, and his synergy with Obyron, who is nasty to boot makes him one of the best Necron HQ's, probably a little more situational than the stormlord, but very strong.
Eldrad is a nightmare!
I'm not so sure you can say there is a 'best' hq, there are so many variables to take into account. certainly there are very strong choices, and weak ones, but i doubt there is a best
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/18 15:40:09
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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I gotta say Eldrad is sounding better and better, but my choice still rests on Skarbrand, no other HQ could beat him 1 on 1 in combat, and I think he could easily take entire squads down with him, and he really makes back his points too.. A lot of HQs coming up here that I hadn't thought of before, Necron ones (Wardex), GK ones (Wardex), SM ones (Wardex), there seems to be a trend on who makes the 'best ' HQs for the least points.. xD Not seen the Smurf Daddy come up yet, is this because people don't like him or because he's just really bad? :S
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Muh Black Templars
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 02:24:10
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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I just had a quick read and I fail to see what is so special about eldrad....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 02:29:29
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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Juggalo17 wrote:I just had a quick read and I fail to see what is so special about eldrad....
Probably because you're a juggalo.
Slights to intelligence and taste aside; The ability to cast two of the same psychic power a turn, + normal farseer schtick.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 02:35:10
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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And so much hatred
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Muh Black Templars
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 02:39:18
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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I fail to see what my taste in music has to with anything at all. And the fact that you assume im of lesser intelligence simply based on user name only makes you look immature and pathetic. That being said I see that he can cast multiple powers etc but I still think compared to some of the other HQs mentioned he is somewhat under par
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 02:54:17
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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Juggalo17 wrote:I fail to see what my taste in music has to with anything at all. And the fact that you assume im of lesser intelligence simply based on user name only makes you look immature and pathetic. That being said I see that he can cast multiple powers etc but I still think compared to some of the other HQs mentioned he is somewhat under par
Cast multiple Psychic powers, 4 Divination powers, and Runes of Warding, which cripples enemy psykers, makes him a very good HQ. He is quite heap for what he does.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 03:18:26
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Asmodai Asmodean wrote: Juggalo17 wrote:I just had a quick read and I fail to see what is so special about eldrad....
Probably because you're a juggalo.
Slights to intelligence and taste aside; The ability to cast two of the same psychic power a turn, + normal farseer schtick.
Its nothing to do with him being a juggalo he plays khorne marines and daemons hence only worrying about models statlines rather than their special abilities and powers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 03:46:58
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Major
Fortress of Solitude
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ShadarLogoth wrote:
On a more serious note, I really, really love Imotekh. He makes my CC crons work the way they are suppose to, single handedly, by himself, and he is one of the hardiest Warlords in the game (with a chrono backing him up of course). He's pricey, but man, he exerts his influence on every one of your units via night fighting protection, and every one of there units via lighting. Not to mention the buffs he brings to a Warrior blob.
I love me some Imo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 03:47:53
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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Everyone knows that the correct answer is Kheradruakh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 04:40:51
Subject: Re:Best overall HQ
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Slightly off here, as the Overlords are great, but dont compare to the other HQs listed. I will say that the MSS is the best piece of war gear in the game, bar none.
As to the topic, eh, Id have to go with Trayzn. The survivability he brings is unmatchable in any of the HQs, plus, *IF* he gets to attack, chances are hes gona wreck a blob.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 04:41:19
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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Eldrad is not the most points cheap character but for what he does, he's still a bargain. Boardwide anti-psyker ability is good, sticking him to a D-Cannon squad to abuse T7? Even better.
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Eldar (Craftworld Sahal-Deran) 2500pts. 2000pts Fully Painted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 08:43:53
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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This thread probably would have been better as,
"Who is the best HQ for each codex"
and then had a head-to-head elimination tournament to see who the winner would be.
Anyway, if we're talking CC, then an Overlord bearing Mindshackle Scarabs wins hands down.
If it's tactical superiority, then I'm not sure (I'd vote Zahndrekh, but there's probably better HQ out there... I'm hearing good/broken things about this Eldrad guy... but who knows what will happen once the new Elder dex drops?)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 09:11:33
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Stalwart Strike Squad Grey Knight
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Hang on what what? Space Marine Librarians...????
Way more expensive than a Dark Angels Librarian to name one but more than that, I can't figure out how to use him really well. That is quite possibly more my failure than theirs.
Coteaz is great but at T3 he is a touch weak but I can really get him, bubble wrap him in henchmen and go to town and use all those multipliers. But a SM Librarian.
Some one help me out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 11:12:16
Subject: Re:Best overall HQ
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Imperial Agent Provocateur
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I'm just going to say creed, he's even got a body guard but c'mon a man who can anything even emperor titans
behind sandbags which are behind the enemy deserves a medal......CCCRRREEEEEEEEEEDDDDD
+he beat tzeentch in chess
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 11:26:51
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Stalwart Strike Squad Grey Knight
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but c'mon a man who can anything even emperor titans
behind sandbags which are behind the enemy deserves a medal
That makes absolutely no sense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 11:29:21
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Marbo. Not a HQ choice, but.. MARBO
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Muh Black Templars
Blacksails wrote:Maybe you should read your own posts before calling someone else's juvenile. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 11:32:46
Subject: Re:Best overall HQ
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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This thread has veered so far off a discussion of competitive HQs and become just another ' MY HQ IZ BESTEST' thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 12:29:19
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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There should be a poll here to figure it out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 12:37:23
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 15:01:12
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Best HQ in BA: level 1 libby. /cry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/19 18:02:50
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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skoffs wrote:This thread probably would have been better as,
"Who is the best HQ for each codex"
and then had a head-to-head elimination tournament to see who the winner would be.
Anyway, if we're talking CC, then an Overlord bearing Mindshackle Scarabs wins hands down.
If it's tactical superiority, then I'm not sure (I'd vote Zahndrekh, but there's probably better HQ out there... I'm hearing good/broken things about this Eldrad guy... but who knows what will happen once the new Elder dex drops?)
head to head would be rough with drazher (no clue how to spell without codex) the elite incubi hq (240pts holy crap) the stats and abilies are pretty legit though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 01:13:50
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Exalbaru wrote: skoffs wrote:This thread probably would have been better as,
"Who is the best HQ for each codex"
and then had a head-to-head elimination tournament to see who the winner would be.
Anyway, if we're talking CC, then an Overlord bearing Mindshackle Scarabs wins hands down.
If it's tactical superiority, then I'm not sure (I'd vote Zahndrekh, but there's probably better HQ out there... I'm hearing good/broken things about this Eldrad guy... but who knows what will happen once the new Elder dex drops?)
head to head would be rough with drazher (no clue how to spell without codex) the elite incubi hq (240pts holy crap) the stats and abilies are pretty legit though.
Head to head against ANYTHING carrying MSS would mean all it would take is one failed leadership test (taken on 3D6, no less) and it would be all over, though...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 03:42:05
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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Gotta agree with the Eldrad votes. HATE trying to kill that little (*&@#$.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 03:52:45
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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Lord of Change, Greater Daemon of Tzeentch with one lesser daemonic reward, two greater daemonic rewards and mastery level 3 is a pretty impressive HQ.
Good chance of having two of +1 wound and it will not die, 4+ FNP, re-roll failed saves or a 3+ save.
S8 AP2 with 5 attacks in close combat. WS6 I6. T6.
Brings divination so prescience to buff either himself or his army. Can get Bolt of Tzeentch to snipe heavy weapons and icons, or flickering fire for a ton of S5 AP4 shooting. Possibility of getting S8 AP1 18" lance to shoot down flyers or land raiders.
Flies 24" and can really pick his combats, tough to kill without skyfire, can kill just about anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 09:19:07
Subject: Re:Best overall HQ
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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Nitros14 wrote:Lord of Change, Greater Daemon of Tzeentch with one lesser daemonic reward, two greater daemonic rewards and mastery level 3 is a pretty impressive HQ.
Good chance of having two of +1 wound and it will not die, 4+ FNP, re-roll failed saves or a 3+ save.
S8 AP2 with 5 attacks in close combat. WS6 I6. T6.
Brings divination so prescience to buff either himself or his army. Can get Bolt of Tzeentch to snipe heavy weapons and icons, or flickering fire for a ton of S5 AP4 shooting. Possibility of getting S8 AP1 18" lance to shoot down flyers or land raiders.
Flies 24" and can really pick his combats, tough to kill without skyfire, can kill just about anything.
very true
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 12:06:31
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Nitros14 wrote:Lord of Change, Greater Daemon of Tzeentch with one lesser daemonic reward, two greater daemonic rewards and mastery level 3 is a pretty impressive HQ.
Good chance of having two of +1 wound and it will not die, 4+ FNP, re-roll failed saves or a 3+ save.
S8 AP2 with 5 attacks in close combat. WS6 I6. T6.
Brings divination so prescience to buff either himself or his army. Can get Bolt of Tzeentch to snipe heavy weapons and icons, or flickering fire for a ton of S5 AP4 shooting. Possibility of getting S8 AP1 18" lance to shoot down flyers or land raiders.
Flies 24" and can really pick his combats, tough to kill without skyfire, can kill just about anything.
Unless GK or a Farseer with runes of warding are around.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 12:29:40
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
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wuestenfux wrote: Nitros14 wrote:Lord of Change, Greater Daemon of Tzeentch with one lesser daemonic reward, two greater daemonic rewards and mastery level 3 is a pretty impressive HQ.
Good chance of having two of +1 wound and it will not die, 4+ FNP, re-roll failed saves or a 3+ save.
S8 AP2 with 5 attacks in close combat. WS6 I6. T6.
Brings divination so prescience to buff either himself or his army. Can get Bolt of Tzeentch to snipe heavy weapons and icons, or flickering fire for a ton of S5 AP4 shooting. Possibility of getting S8 AP1 18" lance to shoot down flyers or land raiders.
Flies 24" and can really pick his combats, tough to kill without skyfire, can kill just about anything.
Unless GK or a Farseer with runes of warding are around.
I played a LoC against GK recently (my last game actually), and it's just a matter of using his mobility to pick your fights. It's obviously not a great match up, but he can kite like a champion.
Runes of Warding, yeah, you've now got a 300 point vector strike. Ha. (I'm bringing my Demon Flying Circus against a Dark Harliestar on Friday, not looking to losing all my shooting)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 12:33:30
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Dakka Veteran
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Best in DE: Baron. He's cheap, helps his unit, gives +1 to go first and is decent in a fight.
Best in Eldar: Eldrad (we'll see what happens to him though).
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Playing: Droids (Legion), Starks (ASOIAF), BB2
Working on: Starks (ASOIAF), Twilight Kin (KoW). Droids (Legion)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/20 18:09:08
Subject: Best overall HQ
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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I would do a poll, but I have ABSOLUTELY no idea how, only been on this thing for a couple of weeks xD If I could I would to be honest, but I don't think I'd be able to list down all the viable HQs, I don't know that much about the game.. Maybe I should take a look, figure it out, and then take all the HQs mentioned here and make a new topic with a poll?? :3
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