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I know there was a topic previously about the best 1v1 combat HQ, because I posted in it, I'm saying, which is the best HQ *overall*, so you can factor in psykers, special abilities etc which help your army.. In my opinion, Skarbrand, he's just a combat tank, absolutely unstoppable, hits Swarmy on 3s, wounds on 4s, my friend disagrees xD

My vote (from experience only) is Vulkan. Great character and so many buffs. Any list that is built around his abilities is pretty tough.

Almost forgot to say: Mephiston. A librarian with the statline of an MC.. He has 5 attacks, T5, S5!! And he has 3 psychic power (which I usually roll on the Biomancy table to get either Endurance or Iron Arm, which are both awesome!!)

 BrotherOfBone wrote:
I know there was a topic previously about the best 1v1 combat HQ, because I posted in it, I'm saying, which is the best HQ *overall*, so you can factor in psykers, special abilities etc which help your army.. In my opinion, Skarbrand, he's just a combat tank, absolutely unstoppable, hits Swarmy on 3s, wounds on 4s, my friend disagrees xD

Skarbrand hits on 3's with rr's wounds on 2's(fleshbane)

Eldrad by a MILE. No other HQ comes close to the amount of hatred Eldrad brings to the table. What a D*ck.

Best HQ overall:

Rune Priest. 100 points for a 4+ psychic negation, divination table or JotWW, wounds daemons on 2+ in CC. The ability to join blob squads and dish out ATSKNF.

Like, what can compete in efficiency? They're fantastic HQ choices that aren't just points efficient, but also highly adaptable to multiple situations. The icing on the cake, is that you can take two per HQ FOC slot.

I'm intrigued to see Eldrad. For some reason I've not encountered an Eldar player since...3rd edition, so I have no idea how good he can be in game.

It depends on what you mean by "overall." Do you mean fluff+model+abilities+tactics? Or just strictly in a battlefield army setting?

For main characters I would say:

For fun time murder I would say Ghazkull Thrakka is pretty cool. He's got some fun flavor rules and can krump stuff pretty hard.

For being a massive d***k Draigo is pretty high up there with his fluff and combat stuff (less so now). Same with Creed in Apoc

Guys like Vulkan He'Stan, Sammael, Belial, Shadowsun etc. are good because they are decent heroes but give great rules to your army as a whole (terminators / bikes as troops, or masive buffs to weapons etc).

For wackiness / fun, someone like Old Zogwart can be hilarious too.

It really depends on what you value, but those are a few to bring up.

In just blanketed HQs I would say that Rune Priests take the cake (as do most SW units) simply because they are so damn efficient for their cost and have a great selection of powers to choose from, which makes them even better. Plus, in a competitive setting, you can take up to four under 2000 points and they are perfect for spamming in lists due to their efficiency.

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
Eldrad by a MILE. No other HQ comes close to the amount of hatred Eldrad brings to the table. What a D*ck.

He does do all of these things, but he's FAR too easy to kill in my opinion, just put a unit of CSMs with Uber Grit into his unit and he'll die, especially if they're supported by a (cheap) character like Kharn..

Coteaz.

For 100pts, what you get from him isn't even funny.

And, in a statline, math hammer combat setting stylie, no fluff involved, just the best HQ (in your opinion) in the game ;3

Counting Special Characteters? Coteaz, Huron, or Eldrad probably.

Normal HQs? Rune Priest.

Best HQ?

Celestine.

Best Warlord period and cheap as all hell. Plus she's pretty killy and synergizes great with any unit she can attach to.

If she had EW, the game would implode.

Eldrad easy to kill??? Tell that to his 3+ re-rollable invul! And yeah a CC monster like Kharn will kill him, but not as fast as you think. Getting wounds past that 3+ re-rollable is hard and being t4(!) he wont be insta-gibbed by him.

But he is mainly a support character who is the master of the psychic phase. While he is on the field other psychers are irrelevant *except other elder* thanks to RoW, RoWitnessing make him super reliable and having ALL the elder powers is just dandy. Have you seen the damage a full squadron of warwalkers with scatter lasers does with guide? Not to mention he can skip these to go full rule book for a great chance of invisibility or misfortune, or any number of EXTREAMLY potent powers. I'd even say he is one of the few units keeping elder competitive!

Id say eldrad, vulkan, rune priests or a tervigon. They offer alot to the army as whole. Not the best fighters however.

I would say Typhus.
Xtra tough, Zombie maker, murders in cc, psyker ML2...

Logan Grimnar, the great wolf. /thread

I like a level 3 Chaos Sorcerer. Cheap and can buff up their squad. I don't need a beast on combat from my HQ. Just make the other units better.

I'm going to say Abaddon, despite his lack of arms he wrecks in combat and makes chosen troops, which means 5 plasma guns in one squad as a troop choice.

 Jabbdo wrote:
Coteaz.

For 100pts, what you get from him isn't even funny.

Exactly my thought. He's a bargain for what you get. There is a corresponding thread at the 40k discussion board.

Eldrad, Corteza, Rune Priest, all good

New ideas
CCS, 50 points for 7 wounds a bunch of guns and so many special abilities. Pretty awesome

Baron. 2++, stealth, hit and run, assault and defensive grenades to the whole unit, jump troop, +1 to go first for 100 points. He isnt bad.

1v1 against other HQ's? Overlord with mindleshackle scarabs 2+ armor and 3+ invul with warscythe... Kill yourself why dont ya!

I don't think anyone has agreed with anyone else yet except Eldrad and Corteaz (GK char??), loving this discussion :3

I'll throw a vote for Eldrad. He is an absolute beast. Re-rolling saves, re-rolling to hit, and/or re-rolling to wound. In combat he tends to do better than I expect due to his great save, t4 (impressive for Eldar), and ignoring armor saves he can hold his own.

Dark Angel Librarian, 60 points of re-rollable to hit goodness.

Illuminor Szeras. Hands down.

/thread

I agree with the op. Skarbrand is an absolute beast. And giving everyone within 12 rage is brilliant if you use it right

Coteaz. So much for so little.

 ImotekhTheStormlord wrote:
Coteaz. So much for so little.

On a more serious note, I really, really love Imotekh. He makes my CC crons work the way they are suppose to, single handedly, by himself, and he is one of the hardiest Warlords in the game (with a chrono backing him up of course). He's pricey, but man, he exerts his influence on every one of your units via night fighting protection, and every one of there units via lighting. Not to mention the buffs he brings to a Warrior blob.

I love me some Imo.

Rune Priest, Dark Angels Librarian, Coteuz, Eldrad, Sevrin Loth, Destroyer Lord, and the Baron.

Point for point first prize goes to Coteaz. Eldrad is good but more than double Coteaz in points.