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2014/06/05 05:13:06
Subject: Where do orks get fuel for their vehicles?
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Likely they fill up the tank on Oil Squig mush, then drive until they get out and the engine doesn't turn back on. The chances of them, driving out to a battlezone, geared up and ready to smash face, sparing even a thought to fuel consumption is very very low. Likely, they collectively believe there is enough fuel to get them to the fightin'. Once they get back in the fuel is long gone, so they get out and give it a push and believe that'll somehow get them going, so it does.
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2014/06/05 23:15:15
Subject: Re:Where do orks get fuel for their vehicles?
If memory serves, there are accounts of Orks fighting over fossil fuel deposits and refining facilities, implying that Promethium is as worthy to them as it is to the Imperium. On the other side, Orks don't seem the ones to be stopped by petty inconveniences like fuel shortages, broken supply lines or faulty logistics. What they don't have, they improvise on spot, so I suppose their engines can run on whatever crude "synthetic" fuels the orks may gather. Like methane from squig (and ork) droppings, alcohol, or fermented organic matter.
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2014/06/06 19:57:03
Subject: Where do orks get fuel for their vehicles?
Deadshot wrote: Likely, they collectively believe there is enough fuel to get them to the fightin'. Once they get back in the fuel is long gone, so they get out and give it a push and believe that'll somehow get them going, so it does.
That's not quite how it works. Orks don't magically create fuel, but their crude vehicles work surprisingly well when they operate them. A human would be terrified of using anything so badly made, rightfully suspecting it's going to either blow up, malfunction in some other interesting way or just refuse to start since there's squigs in the engine. An ork knows a proper vehicle has no sound dampening and no spring suspension so he's assured everything is OK when hurtling along in a hearing-destroying thing that shakes like hell on any uneven surface.
Kind of like old Soviet stuff - clunky and crude but it works. The UAZ jeep copies I've driven are terrific at going through terrain, but the fuel consumption is horrible and the electrical system is weak. The upside is they start pretty well even in the sort of weather where diesel fuel has problems and when your "fuses" consist of plywood with iron wire on it you can replace them with anything metal.
2014/06/06 22:17:33
Subject: Where do orks get fuel for their vehicles?
Deadshot wrote: Likely, they collectively believe there is enough fuel to get them to the fightin'. Once they get back in the fuel is long gone, so they get out and give it a push and believe that'll somehow get them going, so it does.
That's not quite how it works. Orks don't magically create fuel, but their crude vehicles work surprisingly well when they operate them. A human would be terrified of using anything so badly made, rightfully suspecting it's going to either blow up, malfunction in some other interesting way or just refuse to start since there's squigs in the engine. An ork knows a proper vehicle has no sound dampening and no spring suspension so he's assured everything is OK when hurtling along in a hearing-destroying thing that shakes like hell on any uneven surface.
Kind of like old Soviet stuff - clunky and crude but it works. The UAZ jeep copies I've driven are terrific at going through terrain, but the fuel consumption is horrible and the electrical system is weak. The upside is they start pretty well even in the sort of weather where diesel fuel has problems and when your "fuses" consist of plywood with iron wire on it you can replace them with anything metal.
I'm not saying they conjure up fuel out of thin air...simply that the belief of the orks, that there is still fuel in the tank (because they don't check the needle pointing to E, if there is a gauge at all) and so it continues to run as if it had fuel.
When they get out the trukk doesn't start because no fuel but the orks now consider that the tank is empty, but a good push-start magically starts the engine.
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2014/06/06 22:29:41
Subject: Re:Where do orks get fuel for their vehicles?
Barrywise wrote: The reason that not everything works for an irk is because they're so friggin dumb.
Orks arn't dumb though. They are crude, but that's not the same as being stupid. They have force field tech far beyond any other race and constantly create everything they need out of any scrap they find lieing around. No need for big factories, just a shed and something to burn for a furnice.
Deadshot wrote: Likely, they collectively believe there is enough fuel to get them to the fightin'. Once they get back in the fuel is long gone, so they get out and give it a push and believe that'll somehow get them going, so it does.
That's not quite how it works. Orks don't magically create fuel, but their crude vehicles work surprisingly well when they operate them. A human would be terrified of using anything so badly made, rightfully suspecting it's going to either blow up, malfunction in some other interesting way or just refuse to start since there's squigs in the engine. An ork knows a proper vehicle has no sound dampening and no spring suspension so he's assured everything is OK when hurtling along in a hearing-destroying thing that shakes like hell on any uneven surface.
Kind of like old Soviet stuff - clunky and crude but it works. The UAZ jeep copies I've driven are terrific at going through terrain, but the fuel consumption is horrible and the electrical system is weak. The upside is they start pretty well even in the sort of weather where diesel fuel has problems and when your "fuses" consist of plywood with iron wire on it you can replace them with anything metal.
I'm not saying they conjure up fuel out of thin air...simply that the belief of the orks, that there is still fuel in the tank (because they don't check the needle pointing to E, if there is a gauge at all) and so it continues to run as if it had fuel.
When they get out the trukk doesn't start because no fuel but the orks now consider that the tank is empty, but a good push-start magically starts the engine.
Orks belife is kind of like the ad mech prayers. Both based on the human thing of hoping that a macine will work, even though we know it will make no diffrence. The ad mech one is praying for something to work, the Ork is when we shout and swear at something when it brakes, or ignore it when a professional would say "I don't know how it's not broken." Think of them both like people running an old car. The ad mech is like the classic car enthusiast who prays every time they hear a splutter or turn the key "please run. Oh lord please keep running". The orks like someone with an old banger "I'm sure that noise was nothing. It's fine" or "start you bastard, start or I'll scrap you!"
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insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
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2014/06/08 07:32:31
Subject: Re:Where do orks get fuel for their vehicles?
the theory is that the orks were created by the brain boyz as a slave and warrior race, and when the brain boyz realized they were dying out, they encoded entire fields of knowledge into the orks' dna. orks are not educated, in the classic sense of the term, they literally know how to do the things they do intuitively, and certain orks tend to have leanings towards particular areas of knowledge. not all are necessarily related to warfare, so there are guys you don't see doing their 'professional' acts in the game.
in the 2nd ed book 'codex imperialis', there are several castes of orks mentioned: sumboyz, brewboyz, yellerz, and others. meks, short for mekaniaks, and painboyz have jobs which can be easily applied to the battlefield, which is why they make it into your army. no doubt there's brewboyz running around there too, though, cuz when they go to war, the orks are kinda like the eldar; everyone fights, with the difference being that the eldar do it because they must. the orks do it because they love it.
the 3rd edition codex describes their reproductive process. orks shed spores throughout their lives, and release thousands of them upon their death, which then settle in nice, shady spots and begin to grow. above the ground, you'll find a colony of mushrooms. under the ground, in a sort of 'amniotic sack', an ork is growing to maturity. when the time is right, he digs his way out and goes about whatever role he feels called to. grots, snotlings, and squigs also reproduce in this way. i was cheering like an idiot when the orcs were digging the uruk hai out of mud pits in 'the fellowship of the ring', and i don't think anyone else in the theater knew why. and a some lines delivered by gimli in the two towers are also quite apt: 'some people think there are no dwarf females, and that dwarves just spring out holes in the ground, which is, of course ridiculous!'
well, in the case of orks and other greenskins, not so ridiculous after all...
on the subject of psychic abilities, all orks generate a sort of low-level psychic hum, and, as noted, it affects how the things they build work. basic mechanical things work because the orks using them think they should work. and some even might actually work under normal circumstances. when it comes to more advanced technology, things that baffle the imperium's scientists, things don't always go according to plan, which is evident in things like the shock attack gun, which is an example of orks tinkering with teleportation. tractor beams and force fields are the other areas where their technology far outstrips the imperium. all of those, on some level, deal with bending reality, which humans seem to have little luck with, as it tends to thin the barrier between the material universe and the warp, something the orks have no fear of at all. one thing i've always found curious is their resistance to demonic influence, especially that of khorne.
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2014/06/11 22:19:12
Subject: Where do orks get fuel for their vehicles?
They use whatever fuel they can get their grubby hands on. Petroleum? Nice, burny and you can take it anywhere. Natural Gas? Harder to use but it's burny. Coal? Steam engines are right Orky. Grots? Sure, why not.
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