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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 20:20:34
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
The Internet- where men are men, women are men, and kids are undercover cops
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I'm now 8 beers in.
Time to go to work!!!!
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Jon Garrett wrote:Perhaps not technically a Marine Chapter anymore, but the Flame Falcons would be pretty creepy to fight.
"Boss, we waz out lookin' for grub when some of them Spice Marines showed up and shot all the lads."
"Right. Well, did you at least use the burnas?"
"We tried, but the gits was already on fire."
"...Kunnin'." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 20:29:22
Subject: Re:Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Lord of the Fleet
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I'm proud of you.
Same time next week for the AA meeting?
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Mordian Iron Guard - Major Overhaul in Progress
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 20:41:52
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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I guess it will be CSM.
They are not one of the GW beloved factions.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
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Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 20:45:40
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Surprised nobody said Hive Fleet Cruddace III.
Tyranids.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 20:59:18
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Davor wrote:Surprised nobody said Hive Fleet Cruddace III.
Tyranids.
I doubt we'll see a new 'nid dex anytime soon, why update the codex when, as things stand they can make you buy the codex AND shield of bhaal
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 21:01:15
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Funny that the cynics in most of us say CSM.
I feel so helpless as a CSM player deciding my fate. Can't even get excited about the possibility of a future book :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 21:13:10
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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I'm kicking myself for never looking at my 4th edition CSM army and saying aloud in my best Nicholson impression "what if *this* is as good as it gets?!?"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 21:18:53
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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It was blood Angels
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 21:57:51
Subject: Re:Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Chaos because the gods are fickle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 22:00:58
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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blood angels came out before the necrons though, they where more the codex before GW decided to ramp things up to 11
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 22:01:06
Subject: Re:Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Dark Eldar. CSM will get a clearly superior one, but will doggedly maintain that theirs is the worst.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 22:32:31
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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Sisters getting a new Codex.  Good one. Maybe they'll get a data slate or a White Dwarf article. Automatically Appended Next Post: Or a nice FAQ, if we're lucky.
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40k is 111% science.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 23:10:23
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
Little Rock, Arkansas
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BrianDavion wrote:
blood angels came out before the necrons though, they where more the codex before GW decided to ramp things up to 11
What he said. We were on hard avenue right before the bus turned onto easy street with the cron book. As for when they're going to come back, I'm gonna say the tau. Riptides and broadsides are like the only real competitive things, and they're gonna do something dumb like make riptides GC's, so any "no super heavies" group or tourney where they restrict sh lords of war will be sad times for them.
For them to be in against crons and eldar, they'd need the ability to cap objectives by shooting at them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 23:21:43
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Orkz has been that codex 4 editions, tyranids and csm for 2. It's not toning down guys, its your fault for picking an evil faction. Give in to your fate and accept the fact that child-friendly elves are always going to win the day, being overpowered 7 editions straight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/26 23:43:32
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
York
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Its always us! Go Chaos :( fighting the long war with one hand tied behind our backs!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 00:08:40
Subject: Re:Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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I'm gonna go with CSM's. They seem to like to use that book to pivot design paradigms.
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 00:28:48
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Edgarion wrote:Its gonna be Tau. Their playstyle is inheritedly broken as they only compete in a single phase.
Lorewise they cant assault or use psychic powers. Suits are too heavy an investment for the amount of meq-killers that run around in the current meta. Which means they rely solely on riptides and they will propably get nerfed.
My bet is that the next Tau codex will give them psychic guns.
'Cause warp 'n' stuff... Automatically Appended Next Post: BrianDavion wrote:I'd argue it's already happened. the space Marine formation boosts aren't that great. the only real stand out thing is the free transports if you run a very suboptimal army. (when's the last time anyone has seen a battle company on the board?)
Me.
I hate smurfs.
My friend practically had a boner when I got the new SM codex. Couldn't stop fingering the pages.
He's 19.
Feth. Automatically Appended Next Post: Debilitate wrote:Funny that the cynics in most of us say CSM.
I feel so helpless as a CSM player deciding my fate. Can't even get excited about the possibility of a future book :(
I turned all my remaining CSM stuff into zombies for custom games. I have no hope.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 03:59:10
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Didn't a ridiculous Orks/CSM/Demon army just win War-gamesCon? It's not so bad, just have to be obnoxiously creative/hateful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 10:56:35
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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OK, here is what I think will happen IMHO:
Blood Angels - nothing happens, you got your hard back codex so zip
Tyranids - formations which grant free drop beasties, improved shadow of the warp and better synaptic control over the critters
Dark Eldar - formations which turn them into a highly manouverable force, improved webway deployment for alpha strike but still glass cannon
Chaos SM - fetched, another mishmash of units with very little synergy, warp talons can assault the turn they arrive if in a formation and bias toward renegades as opposed to legions
Orks - improved waaaaaagh and better leadership formation, possibility of granting usr fearless
No opinion on impy guard other than more orders per turn and possibly free chimeras
Just my two.
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Please note, for those of you who play Chaos Daemons as a faction the term "Daemon" is potentially offensive. Instead, please play codex "Chaos: Mortally Challenged". Thank you. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 11:45:19
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Krazed Killa Kan
Homestead, FL
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Well Im going to have to go with Orks because if I remember correctly, they came out with 7th edition and the ork codex dropped giving us a huge power nerf.
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I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you mess with me, I'll kill you all
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 20:25:12
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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If we're mentioning IG, the pessimist in me says it's back to cannon fodder for us humies.
The optimist thinks there's going to be some kind of Russ formation.
All the Russ.
It's hard to have a gimped codex *and* Russes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 20:34:30
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Cosmic Joe
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I like how the poll chart looks like a giant middle finger to Chaos players.
Appropriate.
Also fitting is that SOB aren't on the list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 20:38:10
Subject: Re:Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Last Sisters Codex was not weak - just limited on options...........Still makes a useful / formidable ally select.
That being said trying to second guess GW is a pretty fruitless exercise................
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 20:44:22
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Every CSM player and their mother's been complaining about GW and the state of the codex. GW decides that it's time the CSM players felt what that was like. To accomplish this, they will make the codex so OP that everyone including the CSM players mother will complain to them for even using such a broken ass codex.
Top units will include:
Mutilators (4D6 charge range and ignore the "unwieldy special rule)
Thousand sons (Getting AP2 bolters)
Warp Talons (No scatter on deepstrike and all units within 6" must test for initiative followed by toughness or be removed as a casualty)
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You don't have to be happy when you lose, just don't make winning the condition of your happiness. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 20:47:24
Subject: Re:Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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I think formation building is here to stay, I think it's gonna just be what armies get what formations etc.
obviously some armies are gonna be better then others. I mean it's hard to beat the ressurection protocal bonus necrons have.
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 21:10:02
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Foxy Wildborne
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Chaos. It will be the first codex of the new cycle without formations, I guarantee it
They might even cut out a random* god entirely to split him off into a different book.
* by random I mean Khorne. It's always Khorne.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 23:20:14
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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lord_blackfang wrote:Chaos. It will be the first codex of the new cycle without formations, I guarantee it
They might even cut out a random* god entirely to split him off into a different book.
* by random I mean Khorne. It's always Khorne.
Oh feth me.
There's going to be four books of chaos. Welp. There goes either all the Chaos player's bank accounts, or all the Chaos players...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/28 06:10:13
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Lol, everyone voted pretty much the same!
Same here. All the heretics are hunched up in the shadows doing insane amounts of nefarious hand waving and muttering stuff about cereal and anime memes. Just waiting for the moment the 7th ed Chaos Space Marine Codex drops and they get all the sweet game breaking formations, anticipating it with frightful vigor...
.. And then?
Codex: Copy & Paste. New formations? Okay Spikey Marines, take x amount of whatever we feel like selling and get free Drop Pods!
What's that? We forgot to put Drop Pods in the book? Oh well! Give us $70. Now. Because it's a limited run. And we hate you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/28 08:49:57
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
New Zealand
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Nurgle will get a sick new formation and extra buffs to MoN.
Other gods will be DLC with lackluster options
Undivided will no longer be a thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/28 09:04:40
Subject: Which codex will be the "It's time to tone it down" codex?
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I think it could be IG. I'm leaning towards CSM instead though. The reason I say IG is that everything that made them op when they first came out, other armies now copy. Three tanks for heavy support and the such. Also the introduction of such high toughness monstrous and gargantuan creatures means flashlight do even worse now. I don't know could go anyway.
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