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2019/06/16 19:06:08
Subject: Re:Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder the 29th
Biggest flaw wlth these for me is rather unfortunate timing. By the time these comes out i'm in japan. If l order them they will be sent to sender before i come home. And unlikely any left on august :/
Wonder if independent stores don't mind delaying shipping by month? Probably do...
2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2019/06/16 19:27:41
Subject: Re:Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder next week
Dakka Flakka Flame wrote: Since the Battalion boxes are limited in numbers I hope they don't include highly desirable special rules with them.
I am pretty excited for this overall.
They did say the following in the Warhammer Community article...
We are making all of the datasheets for Apocalypse available as FREE downloads at launch, so you’ll be able to start playing straight away. Some of the more popular units will also have cards of their datasheets available to buy if you want a handy physical reference.
Yes, but while all the datasheets are free I'm a little concerned it will be like Kill Team where the individual boxes contain special rules. Since these Battalion boxes are a limited release I doubt they will do that (or at least I hope they won't).
Does it say anywhere that they do?
No. So they won't. They always advertise that fact when it's a thing. Plus 40k sets aren't really getting them as much these days.
2019/06/16 19:28:59
Subject: Re:Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder the 29th
I'm keen to see whether the new rules mechanics will work at the usual 40k sizes. If this can
a) speed up battles to the point where people who have very little time to play (like me, say) and
b) let me get some use out of cool units that always die immediately in regular 40k well, then I'm in!
Bharring wrote: At worst, you'll spend all your time and money on a hobby you don't enjoy, hate everything you're doing, and drive no value out of what should be the best times of your life.
2019/06/16 19:31:36
Subject: Re:Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder next week
Soooo, does the new box and Apoc mean that the Baneblade might be available at third party sellers again? I won't ever get one at German GW prices, but at a nice discount from the UK...hmh. I never ordered one while the pound was 1.08€ and my brother still complains about not having a Baneblade because of that.
Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights.
2019/06/16 19:57:03
Subject: Re:Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder the 29th
Snugiraffe wrote: I'm keen to see whether the new rules mechanics will work at the usual 40k sizes. If this can
a) speed up battles to the point where people who have very little time to play (like me, say) and
b) let me get some use out of cool units that always die immediately in regular 40k well, then I'm in!
That’s an interesting question. How far down will this scale?
This release will mean that there’ll be 3 tiers of game using the same miniature range; Kill Team, 40k and Apocalypse. Kill Team definitely has its own niche and will continue to be played. I can’t see Apocalypse and 40k not treading on each other’s toes somewhat, however.
2019/06/16 20:09:27
Subject: Re:Apocalypse and other reinforcements coming next week
Theophony wrote: Just in time with the new paints to get all that grey taken care of.
Another nail in the old marines coffin as they get no bundles.
Drukhari didn't get any bundles either.
Nor did any of the non-Codex Chapters.
Oh man and I guess Custodes are gone too, they didn't get one!
Death Guard and Thousand Sons? No bundles, gone!
There's a Start Collecting Space Marines set that gives you old marines.
Just to clarify, you actually think that normal size marines are still going to get new production models? He's merely pointing out that the classic marine line is no longer expanding and will only be in decline. He's correct. Why be an ass?
2019/06/16 20:15:47
Subject: Re:Apocalypse and other reinforcements coming next week
Just to clarify, you actually think that normal size marines are still going to get new production models? He's merely pointing out that the classic marine line is no longer expanding and will only be in decline. He's correct. Why be an ass?
Did the line really need to be expanded? No. And yet we not long ago got the Deathwatch range, which brought in old Marines despite being released not long before Primaris got unveiled. We got a new GK character and a whole range that is specifically stated to not be getting Primaris anytime soon.
He "merely pointed out" nothing.
Did you really expect there to be bundles for "old Marines" when they still have Start Collecting sets across C: SM, BA, SW, and Deathwatch?
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2019/06/16 20:36:11
Subject: Re:Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder next week
Tyranids- Tyrant, Trygon, 3x Tyrannofex (with Tervigon parts I assume)
57.75*4+53.75= $284.75
I'm seeing two carnifexes & one Tyrannofex
Bah, so they are. There are enough similar features that I just thought they were further back in the picture.
Fixed:
Tyranids- Tyrant, Trygon, 2 Carnifexes, 1 Tyrannofex (with Tervigon parts I assume)
57.75*2+90+53.75= $259.25
Makes more sense as a 40K detachment, yet I'm somewhat disappointed regardless.
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2019/06/16 20:37:45
Subject: Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder the 29th
I'm actually kind of interested in those movement trays, slightly more for AOS than 40K. Wonder how much those are gonna run and exactly how many are in the box (the side has several pics and then a "x2" on one corner, but not sure if that means "all of the above x2" or "all of the above plus 2 of this one").
2019/06/16 20:46:43
Subject: Re:Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder the 29th
Valander wrote: I'm actually kind of interested in those movement trays, slightly more for AOS than 40K. Wonder how much those are gonna run and exactly how many are in the box (the side has several pics and then a "x2" on one corner, but not sure if that means "all of the above x2" or "all of the above plus 2 of this one").
I just can't imagine they'll charge an arm and a leg for those movement trays that everyone and their grandmother is making movement trays out of plastic or MDF.
However, it is GW...
2019/06/16 21:48:00
Subject: Re:Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder the 29th
Great, just when I think I might be done buying miniatures for a while, along come some big new bundle boxes to test my resolve.
I'm immediately tempted whenever there's a Craftworlds box. It's nuts, because I've already got 20 Wraithguard, 3 Wraithlords and the Spiritseer, I really don't need this one. Yet, the temptation is still there. The knights too - I've got Renegade still in the box, and this would add to it nicely and make it into a decent little knight army.
It's nice to see the new baneblade box, if only because (as someone already mentioned) it may mean it's no longer a webstore exclusive and can be had for FLGS discount.
The Apocalypse box itself... well... I guess it's fitting for my massive pile of models to own the Apocalypse rules, but it does look like an uninspiring box of cards to me at this point. I wonder what they'll be charging for it.
I'm curious how many D12s will be needed. I've got a few kicking around somewhere, but will likely need to order more. Will it really need as many as 25 like the one dice pack they're selling?
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2019/06/16 22:06:06
Subject: Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder the 29th
Don't want any of that stuff in terms of apocalypse the actual game system or even Abby if the battle force boxes but I do want the new marine tank for sure.
2019/06/16 22:29:44
Subject: Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder the 29th
H.B.M.C. wrote: I bought in heavily the last time GW did Apoc.
Never even opened the cards before 7th Ed hit.
Not again...
On the other hand, this appears to be its own complete ruleset, and would be unaffected by any shift in the standard 40K rules. Appears to be, anyway. It's odd, though, how GW seems to be underhyping this in comparison to, say, a new range of paints.
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
2019/06/16 22:40:18
Subject: Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder the 29th
H.B.M.C. wrote: I bought in heavily the last time GW did Apoc.
Never even opened the cards before 7th Ed hit.
Not again...
On the other hand, this appears to be its own complete ruleset, and would be unaffected by any shift in the standard 40K rules. Appears to be, anyway. It's odd, though, how GW seems to be underhyping this in comparison to, say, a new range of paints.
I'm actually intensely curious if it will be a better way of playing sensible scale 40k than 40k is.
Efficiency is the highest virtue.
2019/06/16 23:21:53
Subject: Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder the 29th
H.B.M.C. wrote: I bought in heavily the last time GW did Apoc.
Never even opened the cards before 7th Ed hit.
Not again...
On the other hand, this appears to be its own complete ruleset, and would be unaffected by any shift in the standard 40K rules. Appears to be, anyway. It's odd, though, how GW seems to be underhyping this in comparison to, say, a new range of paints.
Probably because it’s the latest summer box shifter and not something they have great plans to hugely support, as with every other permutation of Apocalypse. Get people to buy a big box, an army bundle of miniatures they already produce, and some absurdly-marked-up Movement Trays, then laugh all the way to the bank.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I bought in heavily the last time GW did Apoc.
Never even opened the cards before 7th Ed hit.
Not again...
On the other hand, this appears to be its own complete ruleset, and would be unaffected by any shift in the standard 40K rules. Appears to be, anyway. It's odd, though, how GW seems to be underhyping this in comparison to, say, a new range of paints.
I'm actually intensely curious if it will be a better way of playing sensible scale 40k than 40k is.
Our group has had the same thought!
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Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
2019/06/16 23:47:00
Subject: Apocalypse and other reinforcements going up for preorder the 29th
I kinda find it humorous that these Apocalypse army sets have so few models. “Play massive games!” and the classic horde armies have a dozen or less models