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This is why 3D printing is becoming so much more prevalent. I already have a friend with 3 printed Leviathans, and now that Russes are going up I think I might be downloading those files tonight.
   
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Sigh. I was in a GW store and noticed the Chaos Rhino, a 15+ year old model is $39...


 
   
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This is unfortunate news.

At first glance I noticed that the list was all of their Made in China products and chalked it up to tariffs, but the further I got down the list I see now that it's a nearly across the board increase.

I think these price increases are a combination of China tariffs and high demand. So, while unfortunate, it's understandable. I don't like it, but there's nothing any of us can do about it. An individual can "vote with your wallet", but at this point your personal protest only hurts your LGS.

Personally, their release schedule has been so rapid that I've stopped buying new models anyway.
   
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Sucks that eBay stopped doing the monthly 15% off, would’ve relieved some of the sting of these unnecessary markups.
   
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terry wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
terry wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
seems odd they're hiking the space marine tac squad pack but not the space wolf pack pack

the same goes for the deamons, bloodletters and plaguebearers are on the list, but deamonettes and pink horrors aren't


iirc demonettes and pink horrors are newish, but the space wolf pack is already cheaper then a tactical marine squad. and arguably better if you don't mind the wolf iconography.


deamonettes and pink horrors are almost the same age as bloodletters and plaguebearers(1 year between deamonettes and bloodletters)


This is untrue. Plastic Daemonettes and Bloodletters marked the beginning of the plastic Daemon range together with 4th ed 40k and 7th Ed fantasy. They came out on the same day.

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Did those China tariffs on gaming products actually happen or were they just talk?

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They happened as far as I'm aware.
   
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Apparently they were 'suspended'. The article is from Xinhua (state-owned media) but the news is legit.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-07/02/c_138192483.htm

 
   
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Seems about par for the course with GW.

They are surging in their popularity with all the great new games, KillTeam, BloodBowl, Shadespire, so the number of players has been increasing, and lots of supply issues.

Makes perfect sense to take the air out of that balloon by raising prices.
Then they won't have supply issues, because players will stop buying new stuff and simply play with what they have, or get out while there is still a seller's market.

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In the 2019 survey i told them that the prices were too high. Guess they didn't take into account my feedback

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From the looks of things they're raising prices on stuff that sells well.
   
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And the kits are becoming less useful. It's nice to have extras but these days you end up with 10 finished models and a dozen sets of useless heads and arms.

 
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
And the kits are becoming less useful. It's nice to have extras but these days you end up with 10 finished models and a dozen sets of useless heads and arms.


If you just assembled your Space Marines with three heads and five arms that wouldn't be an issue. Stop being so conservative!

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 SleeperAgent wrote:
Do things like The Lord of Change suddenly come with more plastic? What justifies raising the retail price $25?
Annnnnnnd in response to this news I just ordered three LoC from my FLGS

Gods dammit GeeDub

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Some of these price hikes make no sense to me. From the perspective of a Guard player, the base Cadian kit is going up 6$, the Command Squad is going up 10$, and the Heavy Weapon Teams are going up 50 cents? I'd say they are looking for round numbers, but from the list several items are still listed with 25 cents etc.

Also man, the Guard Infantry and Sentinels are now around 1 dollar per point. Same goes for the new Termagant price...

I'm probably gonna do one last order to round out stuff I want before the price hikes and then cease purchases for a good long while. All this means to me is that in the long term I save money by not buying.
   
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Yeah. Warcry is the last stop for me as a core product. I will keep an eye out for AoS WHQ in the future, but that’s it for me.
   
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 Stus67 wrote:
This is why 3D printing is becoming so much more prevalent. I already have a friend with 3 printed Leviathans, and now that Russes are going up I think I might be downloading those files tonight.


Hmm ever considered that 3D printing is the cause and not the solution....
People want to play, people love the fluff,people love the models, people love the hobby...just not enough to hand over the money to keep all that good stuff flowing.
   
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Obispudkenobi wrote:
 Stus67 wrote:
This is why 3D printing is becoming so much more prevalent. I already have a friend with 3 printed Leviathans, and now that Russes are going up I think I might be downloading those files tonight.


Hmm ever considered that 3D printing is the cause and not the solution....
People want to play, people love the fluff,people love the models, people love the hobby...just not enough to hand over the money to keep all that good stuff flowing.


More likely its a circle; Prices are high, people 3d print, people are 3d printing, prices go up, prices go up... ect
   
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Nah, it's funny to me to think that 3d printing is even a factor. GW's been very pleased with their finances as of late so people are definitely buying a lot. Probably there are a lot of reasons why the price hike is happening but IMO it is simply because GW can(all finances factored in) and are willing to (more profit) rather than they have to due to rising costs of development, production, logistics distribution etc (which may also be factored in).
   
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss? Sad to see this returning, but after SC boxes getting adjusted, figure these were returning.

What this sadly means that the Roundtree expansion is over and GW is returning to it's old methods to increase sales. It was what, about a decade of price hikes before things were about to fall apart? Worried this may be worse than the post-LotR bubble. Even though sales might not drop as much as the LotR crash, they got a lot more attention in the stock market now. They may be punished worse for not delivering continued growth.
   
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Lord Kragan wrote:
MongooseMatt wrote:
UK retailers have just been hit with the price rises too...


So its been confirmed it's actually happening?


If a rumour is concerning GW increasing prices, simpmy take it as gospel, it just saves time. Even if that rumour is wrong now it'll probably be right eventually.

Still, there's a wonderful world outside of the GW ecosystem, and if a few people explore that because of this, then that's a decent silver lining.

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I thought I’d read that these price rises are to 3rd party stores.
So not affecting GW stores themselves.
Is that not the case?
   
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Well, how do you think they are going to pay for all these painting videos, web comics, teaser trailers, how to play videos, global events, plastic sisters models, etc? All that community engagement that everyone loves costs money. Developing all those new model lines and paint lines costs money. It has to come from somewhere. And if they're selling out some of their new stuff as fast as their factory can make it...
   
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Obispudkenobi wrote:
 Stus67 wrote:
This is why 3D printing is becoming so much more prevalent. I already have a friend with 3 printed Leviathans, and now that Russes are going up I think I might be downloading those files tonight.


Hmm ever considered that 3D printing is the cause and not the solution....



What, because it wasn't recasting, and it wasn't scratch building, and it wasn't unofficial models and third party bits, maybe it's 3D printing?

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 Azreal13 wrote:
Obispudkenobi wrote:
 Stus67 wrote:
This is why 3D printing is becoming so much more prevalent. I already have a friend with 3 printed Leviathans, and now that Russes are going up I think I might be downloading those files tonight.


Hmm ever considered that 3D printing is the cause and not the solution....



What, because it wasn't recasting, and it wasn't scratch building, and it wasn't unofficial models and third party bits, maybe it's 3D printing?


They're all getting to be high quality and cheaper.. so yes. Forgeworld resin is so bad that buying an average 3D printer can get you comparable models these days.

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 Azreal13 wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
MongooseMatt wrote:
UK retailers have just been hit with the price rises too...


So its been confirmed it's actually happening?


If a rumour is concerning GW increasing prices, simpmy take it as gospel, it just saves time. Even if that rumour is wrong now it'll probably be right eventually.

Still, there's a wonderful world outside of the GW ecosystem, and if a few people explore that because of this, then that's a decent silver lining.


Maybe. Unfortunately, a lot of that outside ecosystem died off recently.

In addition, the organisms that survived tend to be the ones that raise prices themselves to fill the room below GW's new prices. GW is not the only miniature company worth quitting on.

   
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 Kirasu wrote:
Spoiler:
 Azreal13 wrote:
Obispudkenobi wrote:
 Stus67 wrote:
This is why 3D printing is becoming so much more prevalent. I already have a friend with 3 printed Leviathans, and now that Russes are going up I think I might be downloading those files tonight.


Hmm ever considered that 3D printing is the cause and not the solution....



What, because it wasn't recasting, and it wasn't scratch building, and it wasn't unofficial models and third party bits, maybe it's 3D printing?


They're all getting to be high quality and cheaper.. so yes. Forgeworld resin is so bad that buying an average 3D printer can get you comparable models these days.


Nah. It's just another in the laundry list of big bads people blame when trying to apologise for GW acting like a company that likes money and knows they have a substantial part of their customer over a barrel.

The drawbacks inherent to FDM technology haven't gone anywhere, and while they're getting cheaper, they're still firmly in the hobbyist/enthusiast category when it comes to usability Nobody with any standards is going to enjoy 32mm scale infantry models unless they're specifically sculpted to work around the limitations, and for a community that gets irritated by mold lines, a SM shoulder pad with about 40 visible layer lines won't pass muster.

Now SLA/DLP works around that to an acceptable degree, but then you encounter much smaller build volumes for the money, making them inappropriate for larger things like tanks etc, as well as accounting for the time, power and raw material costs making it less appealing than just buying a kit off the shelf.

Don't get me wrong, my FDM is an asset to my hobbying, but there's a looong way to go before they're any significant threat to the people who think 40K is a hobby. .

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Obispudkenobi wrote:
 Stus67 wrote:
This is why 3D printing is becoming so much more prevalent. I already have a friend with 3 printed Leviathans, and now that Russes are going up I think I might be downloading those files tonight.


Hmm ever considered that 3D printing is the cause and not the solution....
People want to play, people love the fluff,people love the models, people love the hobby...just not enough to hand over the money to keep all that good stuff flowing.


GW has been posting record revenue for the past couple years. They are not hurting for revenue
   
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Devon, UK

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Spoiler:
 Azreal13 wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
MongooseMatt wrote:
UK retailers have just been hit with the price rises too...


So its been confirmed it's actually happening?


If a rumour is concerning GW increasing prices, simpmy take it as gospel, it just saves time. Even if that rumour is wrong now it'll probably be right eventually.

Still, there's a wonderful world outside of the GW ecosystem, and if a few people explore that because of this, then that's a decent silver lining.


Maybe. Unfortunately, a lot of that outside ecosystem died off recently.

In addition, the organisms that survived tend to be the ones that raise prices themselves to fill the room below GW's new prices. GW is not the only miniature company worth quitting on.


Depends where you're looking I guess, I've a long list of non GW games I want to explore should the current non GW games I enjoy either cease to cut it or fail to provide me opponents. Even before I canned 40K I was thoroughly enjoying the choice offered by third party manufacturers, and there's still no shortage of those.

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The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox

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Are any of the new sector imperialis buildings in the list.
   
 
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