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"We" being the online community centered around forums & Facebook pages.
It really is astonishing how many people still insist that such a thing is 100% participated in by everyone who plays 40k. A couple of the folks I regularly play with actively shy away from forums and groups specifically because of how the community within acts. They'll check the Warhammer Community page and the reveals there no problem though.
What I'm most curious about is if the rumour that the box has two Kill Team boards inside is true (allowing buyers to start playing right away).
Second question is whether terrain is included, and how much.
Hrmh. That may be where the Sector Fronteris terrain wandered off to.
For those unaware, it was this:
Spoiler:
It's stuff that mixes well with the Ryza pattern ruins.
Third is whether they also preview supplemental purchases like a Secondary Mission deck, new objective markers and that sort of thing.
I would be doubtful of that, unless they actually come in the box. Tomorrow's reveal is "lifting the lid" on the box.
I'd hazard a guess that the only non-box related stuff we might see is the boxes meant to go with the main box,the rulebook proper, and the codices for the two box armies.
"We" being the online community centered around forums & Facebook pages.
It really is astonishing how many people still insist that such a thing is 100% participated in by everyone who plays 40k. A couple of the folks I regularly play with actively shy away from forums and groups specifically because of how the community within acts. They'll check the Warhammer Community page and the reveals there no problem though.
Spoiler:
What I'm most curious about is if the rumour that the box has two Kill Team boards inside is true (allowing buyers to start playing right away).
Second question is whether terrain is included, and how much.
Hrmh. That may be where the Sector Fronteris terrain wandered off to.
For those unaware, it was this:
[spoiler]
It's stuff that mixes well with the Ryza pattern ruins.
Third is whether they also preview supplemental purchases like a Secondary Mission deck, new objective markers and that sort of thing.
I would be doubtful of that, unless they actually come in the box. Tomorrow's reveal is "lifting the lid" on the box.
I'd hazard a guess that the only non-box related stuff we might see is the boxes meant to go with the main box,the rulebook proper, and the codices for the two box armies.[/spoiler]
Pretty much everyone in my local area actively stays away from the forums/FB pages, since all it ever really devolves into is bitching and moaning about gak, vitriol and irrational suppositions using subjective understanding about something that requires objectivity.
ya know what answer I get when I ask players if they go on DakkaDakka....hell no, why on earth would anyone subject themselves to that vile cesspool.
"We" being the online community centered around forums & Facebook pages.
It really is astonishing how many people still insist that such a thing is 100% participated in by everyone who plays 40k. A couple of the folks I regularly play with actively shy away from forums and groups specifically because of how the community within acts. They'll check the Warhammer Community page and the reveals there no problem though.
Spoiler:
What I'm most curious about is if the rumour that the box has two Kill Team boards inside is true (allowing buyers to start playing right away).
Second question is whether terrain is included, and how much.
Hrmh. That may be where the Sector Fronteris terrain wandered off to.
For those unaware, it was this:
[spoiler]
It's stuff that mixes well with the Ryza pattern ruins.
Third is whether they also preview supplemental purchases like a Secondary Mission deck, new objective markers and that sort of thing.
I would be doubtful of that, unless they actually come in the box. Tomorrow's reveal is "lifting the lid" on the box.
I'd hazard a guess that the only non-box related stuff we might see is the boxes meant to go with the main box,the rulebook proper, and the codices for the two box armies.[/spoiler]
Pretty much everyone in my local area actively stays away from the forums/FB pages, since all it ever really devolves into is bitching and moaning about gak, vitriol and irrational suppositions using subjective understanding about something that requires objectivity.
ya know what answer I get when I ask players if they go on DakkaDakka....hell no, why on earth would anyone subject themselves to that vile cesspool.
To be fair, I avoid looking on the official FB page for a similar reason. There's no actual discussion, either the most petty of complaining, or the most gushing of praise. I don't really want either, but that's all that's there. At least on here I can see people actually talk with other humans (though plenty just shout over each other).
"We" being the online community centered around forums & Facebook pages.
It really is astonishing how many people still insist that such a thing is 100% participated in by everyone who plays 40k. A couple of the folks I regularly play with actively shy away from forums and groups specifically because of how the community within acts. They'll check the Warhammer Community page and the reveals there no problem though.
Spoiler:
What I'm most curious about is if the rumour that the box has two Kill Team boards inside is true (allowing buyers to start playing right away).
Second question is whether terrain is included, and how much.
Hrmh. That may be where the Sector Fronteris terrain wandered off to.
For those unaware, it was this:
[spoiler]
It's stuff that mixes well with the Ryza pattern ruins.
Third is whether they also preview supplemental purchases like a Secondary Mission deck, new objective markers and that sort of thing.
I would be doubtful of that, unless they actually come in the box. Tomorrow's reveal is "lifting the lid" on the box.
I'd hazard a guess that the only non-box related stuff we might see is the boxes meant to go with the main box,the rulebook proper, and the codices for the two box armies.[/spoiler]
Pretty much everyone in my local area actively stays away from the forums/FB pages, since all it ever really devolves into is bitching and moaning about gak, vitriol and irrational suppositions using subjective understanding about something that requires objectivity.
ya know what answer I get when I ask players if they go on DakkaDakka....hell no, why on earth would anyone subject themselves to that vile cesspool.
There was a nice long thread in nuts and bolts about this exact thing recently, whilst the mods were engaging with the idea there needs to be changes, unfortunately it does not seem like much has changed. Why on earth certain posters are not banned from this forum I really do not know, the removal of 5-10 posters would infinitely increase the atmosphere on here.
One thing I will say though, it could be worse, it could be reddit...
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All this rules drama...I dunno. I don't understand how anyone takes 40K that seriously. At least not anyone who's been around for a few editions or more.
GW makes us pay for rules at a high price. If the rules are bad the complaints make sense. Stop settling for mediocrity.
At some point, you have to look at what something is and has been for over 30 YEARS and accept that it's not changing. They have you on a treadmill and you're complaining because YOU can't figure out you're not getting anywhere and/or refuse to get off.
Meanwhile, GW is pouring even MORE narrative focus into 9th and the TOs will soon be hammering harder than ever to pound that square peg into the round hole of "pro Warhammer" and pretend that the game is really aimed at them. Look, they can do whatever they want and so can you. I just don't get it. It's like buying a '70s Jaguar and complaining that it's not the ultra-reliable, safe, high MPG family sedan that you need. This isn't even a bash at GW. They make much better rulesets than 40K...better suited to more competitive play. For light-hearted, casual fun with my kid, 40K works just fine.
Have you been watching Mad Men recently? lmao, I just saw the Jaguar parts of season 5.
I agree with your points.
The TOs and many players, especially in America, have always wanted Warhammer and 40k to be something that GW just isn't interested in making.
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All this rules drama...I dunno. I don't understand how anyone takes 40K that seriously. At least not anyone who's been around for a few editions or more.
GW makes us pay for rules at a high price. If the rules are bad the complaints make sense. Stop settling for mediocrity.
At some point, you have to look at what something is and has been for over 30 YEARS and accept that it's not changing. They have you on a treadmill and you're complaining because YOU can't figure out you're not getting anywhere and/or refuse to get off.
Meanwhile, GW is pouring even MORE narrative focus into 9th and the TOs will soon be hammering harder than ever to pound that square peg into the round hole of "pro Warhammer" and pretend that the game is really aimed at them. Look, they can do whatever they want and so can you. I just don't get it. It's like buying a '70s Jaguar and complaining that it's not the ultra-reliable, safe, high MPG family sedan that you need. This isn't even a bash at GW. They make much better rulesets than 40K...better suited to more competitive play. For light-hearted, casual fun with my kid, 40K works just fine.
You don't need $50 rule to do that then. Just go pewpew and whoever makes the best noises wins! You SHOULD expect a good product for the money you spend. If you're spending money and not expecting anything good...why spend the money in the first place? For that quality they're in, they should be releasing the rules for free.
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
You don't need $50 rule to do that then. Just go pewpew and whoever makes the best noises wins! You SHOULD expect a good product for the money you spend. If you're spending money and not expecting anything good...why spend the money in the first place? For that quality they're in, they should be releasing the rules for free.
It is a good product for my purposes. If it is not good for your purposes, you don't need to buy it.
You don't need $50 rule to do that then. Just go pewpew and whoever makes the best noises wins! You SHOULD expect a good product for the money you spend. If you're spending money and not expecting anything good...why spend the money in the first place? For that quality they're in, they should be releasing the rules for free.
It is a good product for my purposes. If it is not good for your purposes, you don't need to buy it.
The problem is your purposes don't NEED a rulebook if you aren't wanting anything balanced or precise or tight. You can be sloppy for free.
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
You don't need $50 rule to do that then. Just go pewpew and whoever makes the best noises wins! You SHOULD expect a good product for the money you spend. If you're spending money and not expecting anything good...why spend the money in the first place? For that quality they're in, they should be releasing the rules for free.
It is a good product for my purposes. If it is not good for your purposes, you don't need to buy it.
The problem is your purposes don't NEED a rulebook if you aren't wanting anything balanced or precise or tight. You can be sloppy for free.
Come on, you don't NEED a car to go to the shops but it makes it faster, easier and more enjoyable. Don't turn this into another "GW rules are crap, don't pay for them, don't play the game and support mediocrity" monologue again.
On topic I'm hoping for some rules info on the crons units, if it's just some design aesthetic waffle and a pic of the contents that's going to be a shame.
It’s unlikely, but I’m hoping we get at least some clue as to whether the multipart Assault Intercessors will have jump packs. I think for now they’ll want to focus on this box set, but I’m hoping they drop at least some hint. My Blood Angels would loooooove some Primaris Jump Packs.
I expect the launch date for the starter to be announced alonside with the unboxing. I think its going to launch very soon, in a few weeks or so. Availability of existing kits is low outside GW's own store, I'd wager the factories in the east have been making these new starter boxes for a while already. It takes about a month to ship some containers to the UK/Europe/US, the boats have probably left China already.
Would be nice if assault interecessors came with jump packs, but I don't think they will. Jump packs might be included with the standalone assault intereseccors kit once its out, if even then.
Its been pretty hilarious reading yanks crapping their pants over the rew rules leaks. I'm starting to hate the whole tourney scene, what a bunch of Sgt BuzzKills. Maybe they would indeed be better off playing 40K with tokens instead of minis, and using standardized obstacle tokens as well. The idea of always having L-shaped fugly ruins in the middle of a board makes me cringe. You always yapping about balance, tell you what, always make boards 100% symmetrical and always use exact same armies on hoth sides. 100% balance. Not get off my lawn
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
2020/06/13 08:31:47
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000 Preview, 13 June 2020
I wonder if the box includes 1 or 2 "Kill Team Boards".
2 of them would be the new (minimum) 1000 points gaming table. Two boxes could give you the new 2000 points table. Marine theme on one side, Necron theme on the other side. Possibly Necrons and Marines in different coloured plastic.
It'd make 40K much more "out of the box"-kinda game (as close at it can get).
tauist wrote: I expect the launch date for the starter to be announced alonside with the unboxing. I think its going to launch very soon, in a few weeks or so. Availability of existing kits is low outside GW's own store, I'd wager the factories in the east have been making these new starter boxes for a while already. It takes about a month to ship some containers to the UK/Europe/US, the boats have probably left China already.
Would be nice if assault interecessors came with jump packs, but I don't think they will. Jump packs might be included with the standalone assault intereseccors kit once its out, if even then.
Its been pretty hilarious reading yanks crapping their pants over the rew rules leaks. I'm starting to hate the whole tourney scene, what a bunch of Sgt BuzzKills. Maybe they would indeed be better off playing 40K with tokens instead of minis, and using standardized obstacle tokens as well. The idea of always having L-shaped fugly ruins in the middle of a board makes me cringe. You always yapping about balance, tell you what, always make boards 100% symmetrical and always use exact same armies on hoth sides. 100% balance. Not get off my lawn
I was under the impression that all the GW models were made at the factory in Nottingham, It was the books and ancillary things that were made abroad. I think the GW factory has only just restarted (probably with limited production) so I'm not sure what the lead time would be. If everything was finalised before the lockdown then it could be soon, but otherwise there might be a bit of a lag, or limited numbers.
I think its a special skill to go "I wonder what we will see?" when... yes, they know. We know. The average punter on this stream almost certainly knows.
But hey, could be something that's been concealed.
Would really be interesting if there were points for what is in the kit - or indeed rules for new models - but I am 99.999% certain that won't happen. Sound's like that will be next week's big reveal.
I don't know - its impatient, but I wish they would just get on with it, rather than teasing for another month.
"We" being the online community centered around forums & Facebook pages.
It really is astonishing how many people still insist that such a thing is 100% participated in by everyone who plays 40k. A couple of the folks I regularly play with actively shy away from forums and groups specifically because of how the community within acts. They'll check the Warhammer Community page and the reveals there no problem though.
Spoiler:
What I'm most curious about is if the rumour that the box has two Kill Team boards inside is true (allowing buyers to start playing right away).
Second question is whether terrain is included, and how much.
Hrmh. That may be where the Sector Fronteris terrain wandered off to.
For those unaware, it was this:
[spoiler]
It's stuff that mixes well with the Ryza pattern ruins.
Third is whether they also preview supplemental purchases like a Secondary Mission deck, new objective markers and that sort of thing.
I would be doubtful of that, unless they actually come in the box. Tomorrow's reveal is "lifting the lid" on the box.
I'd hazard a guess that the only non-box related stuff we might see is the boxes meant to go with the main box,the rulebook proper, and the codices for the two box armies.[/spoiler]
Pretty much everyone in my local area actively stays away from the forums/FB pages, since all it ever really devolves into is bitching and moaning about gak, vitriol and irrational suppositions using subjective understanding about something that requires objectivity.
ya know what answer I get when I ask players if they go on DakkaDakka....hell no, why on earth would anyone subject themselves to that vile cesspool.
It's pretty normal for group thinkers to avoid outside opinions and input because it conflicts with their world view. Everyone who's not in your group is obviously evil and part of some vile cesspool.
2020/06/13 13:14:57
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000 Preview, 13 June 2020
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Looks like the Warrior sprue has enough guns to do ten of either option? I guess they will be getting the chain wrasp treatment and be released separately.
2020/06/13 13:18:10
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000 Preview, 13 June 2020
Ever since the primaris marines showed up I've pretty much lost all interest in 40K proper and moved onto titanicus and other ranges but those new models are making me think it could be time for a new army...
So a "Launch Set", not a starter set. No dice, rulers, any of that stuff. Just the minis, the rules to use them, transfers, assembly guide, and hardback core rulebook.
H.B.M.C. wrote: So a "Launch Set", not a starter set. No dice, rulers, any of that stuff. Just the minis, the rules to use them, transfers, assembly guide, and hardback core rulebook.
This might mean that GW is going to go for the individual faction starter sets being pushed on newbies instead of a duel army pack that only caters to two armies. Being quite a chance since that weakens the whole "everyone starts with marines" since they always came in the starter sets. IT might also suggest that this box could be a limited edition and not long term with a long term starter arriving later - perhaps with fewer models etc...
Overall I freaking love the new necron stuff! Including all the little extra minion models and also the new reanimator!
