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 silverstu wrote:


The other question. is will there be a starter set as well- you'd think so , so it will be interesting to see how they sale down to that after this..

They'll sell this expensive, limited box and then launch the starter box a month or two later, knowing that since it's new Primaris stuff, it'll sell like hotcakes regardless.

I meant brigade. But anyway its a moot point.

 kodos wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

And does anyone else find the paint work on the necron metal plating to be absolutely fantastic? Really pushing the bar there.

they said there will be a new bronze primer and washes to paint the Necrons (I guess Contrast was not good enough)

Actually it will be an existing color (i.e., Runelord Brass) available as a spray for the first time.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/789037.page#10829727

I swear when I saw the buggy I immediately thought about those squat little vehicles for Void back in the day

Woohoo... called it years ago

Except based on starcraft...

Voss wrote:
We're talking about marines here- no help is needed 'filling out' the force org. The most limited force org squad is troops... with a staggering 5 options currently (probably soon to be 6 with the assault primaris). FA is going from 8 choices to at least 10 with this release, plenty of which are already dirt cheap.

Best case scenario, Intecessors will get a new assault kit, but they will just add the option to swap the bolt rifle for a chainsword (for free) and any new pistol options to the intercessor datasheet. Unless they have jump packs, it's literally several words difference.

 Twoshoes23 wrote:
Not a marine player here so don't care one way or the other on that buggy...but my first thought was it has better Tauros Venator conversion potential then the GSC Ridgerunner I think. I wonder if its a bigger model or not? Hopefully Tauros doesn't get "legend'd" in 9th.

I use a Halo Warthog for my Tauros, but that's just me.


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I have to admit the Turret is growing on me. I have a counts-as blood angels army (thunderwarriors) and I was looking for something to use in the heavy support section. Looks like I found it.. Likely using an AoS Ballista as the base though.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Voss wrote:
We're talking about marines here- no help is needed 'filling out' the force org. The most limited force org squad is troops... with a staggering 5 options currently (probably soon to be 6 with the assault primaris). FA is going from 8 choices to at least 10 with this release, plenty of which are already dirt cheap.

Best case scenario, Intecessors will get a new assault kit, but they will just add the option to swap the bolt rifle for a chainsword (for free) and any new pistol options to the intercessor datasheet. Unless they have jump packs, it's literally several words difference.

If that were true, Suppressors and intercep... no, Inceptors... would be the same unit, same with the Centurion variants, at least one Phobos squad and Reivers, the new melta 'rifles' would be an Eliminator weapon option, and Stalker, Hunter and maybe Whirlwind would be the same tank.

It isn't the word count difference- that isn't how GW identifies units. I'm not sure what their criteria is, it certainly isn't distinct names or battlefield roles, but I'm sure someone at GW can identify a Incursor vs Infiltrator off the top of their heads, and tell you why assault primaris are super distinct from both Intercessors, Reivers and whichever Phobos squad has the knives.

The necron stuff looks dope. I don’t even play them but might have to start

Shopping list:
- Crpytothralls (to use as Flayed Ones)
- Skorpekh Destroyers
- Lokhust Heavy Destroyers

(Would it have killed them to just call them Scorpion and Locust?)


Maybe:
- Necron Overlord
- Plasmancer
- Skorpekh Lord
- Canoptek Reanimator
- Canoptek Doomstalker

Garbage Pile:
- Eradicators
- Necron Warriors
- Primaris ATV
- Firestrike Servo-turret

 Stormonu wrote:
Shopping list:
- Crpytothralls (to use as Flayed Ones)
- Skorpekh Destroyers
- Lokhust Heavy Destroyers

(Would it have killed them to just call them Scorpion and Locust?)

No, but it would have killed their ability to trademark them.

I think the ATV supposed to be a Marine version of this

Spoilered for size

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Voss wrote:
We're talking about marines here- no help is needed 'filling out' the force org. The most limited force org squad is troops... with a staggering 5 options currently (probably soon to be 6 with the assault primaris). FA is going from 8 choices to at least 10 with this release, plenty of which are already dirt cheap.

Best case scenario, Intecessors will get a new assault kit, but they will just add the option to swap the bolt rifle for a chainsword (for free) and any new pistol options to the intercessor datasheet. Unless they have jump packs, it's literally several words difference.

according to a friend who knows a guy (or claims to) they're a totally separate unit for the elite slot. He said they also come standard with 2A (3Sgt) and have a movement stat of 8" with some special rules, including some kind of forward deployment ability. Take with vat of salt, but there you go.


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 xeen wrote:
The necron stuff looks dope. I don’t even play them but might have to start

Yeah, I was going to split the box, but after seeing everything I'm just going to keep both haves. Everything looks too cool for me to want to let any of it go!

Oh yes, the standard "I know a guy that knows a guy".


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Voss wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Voss wrote:
We're talking about marines here- no help is needed 'filling out' the force org. The most limited force org squad is troops... with a staggering 5 options currently (probably soon to be 6 with the assault primaris). FA is going from 8 choices to at least 10 with this release, plenty of which are already dirt cheap.

Best case scenario, Intecessors will get a new assault kit, but they will just add the option to swap the bolt rifle for a chainsword (for free) and any new pistol options to the intercessor datasheet. Unless they have jump packs, it's literally several words difference.

If that were true, Suppressors and intercep... no, Inceptors... would be the same unit, same with the Centurion variants, at least one Phobos squad and Reivers, the new melta 'rifles' would be an Eliminator weapon option, and Stalker, Hunter and maybe Whirlwind would be the same tank.

It isn't the word count difference- that isn't how GW identifies units. I'm not sure what their criteria is, it certainly isn't distinct names or battlefield roles, but I'm sure someone at GW can identify a Incursor vs Infiltrator off the top of their heads, and tell you why assault primaris are super distinct from both Intercessors, Reivers and whichever Phobos squad has the knives.

Well the difference for Inceptors va Suppressors is a LOT more because one is in Gravis armor for starters. Also I'm all for consolidation of the Centurion entries into a single slot because, as is, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to mix and it saves room. Then just leave them in the heavy slot entirely. GW's way of creating "separate entries" is fething garbage and that's why we have probably more than 9 Captains at this point, meanwhile tons of other armies struggle to get 3!

The most painful part is that GW has proven their ability to make decent enough quads.

Elysian Tauros Assault Vehicle


Genestealer Cults Achillies Ridgerunner


Genestealer Cults Atalan Wolfquad


Ork Boomdakka Snazzwagon

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Oh yes, the standard "I know a guy that knows a guy".


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Voss wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Voss wrote:
We're talking about marines here- no help is needed 'filling out' the force org. The most limited force org squad is troops... with a staggering 5 options currently (probably soon to be 6 with the assault primaris). FA is going from 8 choices to at least 10 with this release, plenty of which are already dirt cheap.

Best case scenario, Intecessors will get a new assault kit, but they will just add the option to swap the bolt rifle for a chainsword (for free) and any new pistol options to the intercessor datasheet. Unless they have jump packs, it's literally several words difference.

If that were true, Suppressors and intercep... no, Inceptors... would be the same unit, same with the Centurion variants, at least one Phobos squad and Reivers, the new melta 'rifles' would be an Eliminator weapon option, and Stalker, Hunter and maybe Whirlwind would be the same tank.

It isn't the word count difference- that isn't how GW identifies units. I'm not sure what their criteria is, it certainly isn't distinct names or battlefield roles, but I'm sure someone at GW can identify a Incursor vs Infiltrator off the top of their heads, and tell you why assault primaris are super distinct from both Intercessors, Reivers and whichever Phobos squad has the knives.

Well the difference for Inceptors va Suppressors is a LOT more because one is in Gravis armor for starters. Also I'm all for consolidation of the Centurion entries into a single slot because, as is, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to mix and it saves room. Then just leave them in the heavy slot entirely. GW's way of creating "separate entries" is fething garbage and that's why we have probably more than 9 Captains at this point, meanwhile tons of other armies struggle to get 3!

Hence my salt warning. I will say he did also tell me three rumors that have been true and one that was half-true.

their being elites seems a bit odd to me as it'd mean a starter box with no troops.

BrianDavion wrote:
their being elites seems a bit odd to me as it'd mean a starter box with no troops.

point is, it is not a starter box

 Togusa wrote:

according to a friend who knows a guy (or claims to) they're a totally separate unit for the elite slot. He said they also come standard with 2A (3Sgt) and have a movement stat of 8" with some special rules, including some kind of forward deployment ability. Take with vat of salt, but there you go.

Yeah I'd say the salt is warranted. The 8 movement stat is IMO the really odd bit.

I wonder what the smaller starter sets will be. The heavy Sisters presence in the video and on the website makes me wonder if one of them will feature Sisters.

I think the heavy Sisters marketing is purely GW investing in Sisters because they did such a big range launch for them. They basically rebooted the army in almost its entire form and added more stuff. For them it was a big update to an army which has likely sold poorly in metal for a long time


So it makes sense that they'd put them into a lot of marketing material right now to really help drive home the attention on them to help boost sales. IT might also blend into GW wanting to make more of an overt representation of different groups within its games, thus promoting female models through their predominantly female army.

I don't think it means they've lots more for sisters nor that they are going to put them in starter sets; I think its just GW giving them a pride of place for a while.

 General Kroll wrote:
I wonder what the smaller starter sets will be. The heavy Sisters presence in the video and on the website makes me wonder if one of them will feature Sisters.

What GW are going to do with the starter and fist steps products really interests me. The sprue layout for Indomitus could support several different combinations for smaller boxes, in the same vein as the current First strike and Know No Fear sets. Also GW have been quite specific in labelling Indomitus as a "launch box" not a starter box. So maybe they are changing there thinking in this area?

Return of the sisters army in a box sprues with a rulebook? Would be easy for them to do and make sense.

Dudeface wrote:
Return of the sisters army in a box sprues with a rulebook? Would be easy for them to do and make sense.

This is what I thought. It might be the case that they will have a couple of different starter sets and the Indomitus box for the die hards. Would give them the opportunity to really promote the sisters line, and maybe even other model lines if the pushed different xenos/chaos factions in the smaller starter sets.

it won’t hurt the brand having more female representation either.

What’s truly unforgivable is they called it an ATV when it’s clearly a FAV—you know an actual military dune buggy with remarkably little ground clearance.

Astartes vehicles and equipment being unable to work in real life is tradition. Now is probably not the time to start complaining.

I for one imagine the dune buggy cuts through the earth like a boat on water.

 Overread wrote:
I think the heavy Sisters marketing is purely GW investing in Sisters because they did such a big range launch for them. They basically rebooted the army in almost its entire form and added more stuff. For them it was a big update to an army which has likely sold poorly in metal for a long time


So it makes sense that they'd put them into a lot of marketing material right now to really help drive home the attention on them to help boost sales. IT might also blend into GW wanting to make more of an overt representation of different groups within its games, thus promoting female models through their predominantly female army.

I don't think it means they've lots more for sisters nor that they are going to put them in starter sets; I think its just GW giving them a pride of place for a while.

They have said they want to be more inclusive and Sisters help with that as well as being great new models.

They can use them in lots of prmotional work without lots of new stuff as well.

I love all these new kits. Ecstatic for Necrons getting much needed love.

Also really like the idea of the turret gun and the marine atv

I suppose the starter box could be Dark Imperium, with updated rules. Thus keeping KNF and FS as smaller boxes..

Why do we have both of these threads. Aren't they pretty much the same thing?

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