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Kayback wrote:

I have never watched an episode of Lost. I've seen the beach crash scene and that's it.

To summarize for you:

Tune in next week, when something finally happens.

Next week, nothing happens.

 insaniak wrote:

Kayback wrote:

I have never watched an episode of Lost. I've seen the beach crash scene and that's it.

To summarize for you:

Tune in next week, when something finally happens.

Next week, nothing happens.

Haha yup. That's why I'm glad I missed it! I heard the end was worse than GOT S8.

Kayback wrote:


I have never watched an episode of Lost. I've seen the beach crash scene and that's it.

Lucky you. It was my first tv series, watched till the end because at some point it became like a drug. Only 2-3 seasons were good though, the last 3-4 were absolute nonsense. I've watched 40ish tv series so far and Lost is definitely the worst one.


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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

The older Bond films might be worthwhile as cultural artifacts, but I wouldn’t consider them essential.

Some of the older Bonds are among the best movies in history. I've watched the entire franchise but the last worthwile Bond is You Only Live Twice. Action movies and spy stories released in the last two decades are not even remotely close to Goldfinger or Thunderball in terms of quality and entertainment.


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 SkavenLord wrote:
The Dark Knight. I remember when everyone was talking about this thing, and how Heath Ledger’s Joker was one of the character’s best portrayals.

It's extremely overrated and Ledger had better performances and starred in better films. Generally speaking I consider all DC movies pure gak, except this and its sequel which were just ok but mostly, if not entirely, for the cast. However in North America batman is extremely loved, superheroes in general get a lot of interest there, and people from that part of the world could have a different idea about it. Here The Dark Knight it's basically a standard Nolan's film, with Christian Bale and the last Ledger's complete performance.

My tastes are taking a battering. I watched The Dark Knight last night and enjoyed it. The Godfather is one of my favourites too.

Never seen The Dark Knight Rises, though.

ZergSmasher wrote:Only F&F movie I've seen is the most recent one, Hobbs & Shaw. Thought it was pretty entertaining and it made me want to go back and watch the rest.

Never watched any of the major horror franchises (Saw, Elm Street, etc.) and I don't plan to either as I think slasher movies are stupid (if you all enjoy that kind of thing, more power to you).

insaniak wrote:I've also missed most of the various horror or thriller franchises over the last couple of decades... I think I dropped out somewhere around I Still Know What You Did Last Summer.

And I passed on Schindler's List. War movies in general don't appeal, as I find them too depressing. I watched Saving Private Ryan, but only because it was on and I had nothing better to do at the time.

Nothing against horror or war movies, but aside from one, maybe two of the Elm Street films, I haven't seen any of those above. (Or Halloween, Friday the 13th etc.) I get they're iconic but just never entered my head as must-see movies. Actually, I put F&F at the level of Transformers: must-avoid movies. Was I wrong?

I don't claim any special insight but when Lost first popped up I had a feeling it'd go round in circles rather than go anywhere, so I didn't bother. I gather I didn't miss much.

On that note, I haven't watched any JJ Trek films past the first. Is it me or do they all have the same plot anyway?

Haven't watched GoT past season 3 or 4. The rot had set in that early.

SkavenLord wrote:
I also seem to have this weird aversion towards the more artsy, philosophical, political, or historically-accurate films. The reasoning is admittedly kind of juvenile and ridiculous. It’s not that I wouldn’t like them, but I can’t help but feel some sense of jealousy towards the creator’s skill (just like a Skaven!). Any ideas on how to avoid this mindset?

I get that, to some extent, for some things. I think the solution is to live in a cave.

 Vermis wrote:
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Haven't watched GoT past season 3 or 4. The rot had set in that early.

Yeah that's about when everyone got their plot armour. I was hoping it would improve again but it didn't.

The JJ Star Trek films are pretty idiotic. Cheat, sneak onto a ship, break the rules? Here the keys.

 Vermis wrote:
Actually, I put F&F at the level of Transformers: must-avoid movies. Was I wrong?

Not at the same level, please, F&F is basically at Marvel levels. Both childish franchises though and maybe a must avoid if you don't like that kind of movies.

 Vermis wrote:

On that note, I haven't watched any JJ Trek films past the first. Is it me or do they all have the same plot anyway?

I'm not a fan of classic Star Trek but I've loved the 3 JJ episodes, and no, they don't have the same plot.

 Vermis wrote:
Actually, I put F&F at the level of Transformers: must-avoid movies. Was I wrong?

Yes.

The Transformers films are unmitigated disasters that only get worse as time goes on (that 5th one is utterly incomprehensible). I just watched most of the first one, and it's fine, at best.

The Fast & The Furious franchise is a different beast. It starts off as a low-rent Point Break w/Cars ripoff, turns into a generic under cover anti-cartel thing (Bad Boys II without any of the class or charisma), then becomes something dull and odd (the diversion to Tokyo to cash in on the then-popular drift racing fad) and then, finally, it starts to change. The fourth one is a sombre takes-itself-too-seriously action film that isn't that interesting, but it leads right into the 5th, where the franchise suddenly becomes a high-action heist franchise with car stunts and absurd chases/action set pieces.

It's tons of stupid, dumb fun with large characters. It's not a mess of CGI where you can't tell what's going on that spends all its time focusing on the human characters like those abysmal Transformers films.

Eh, the transformers films are definitely bad, and get worse- but Bumblebee is pretty good.

Lost is not worth your time- it loses cohesion hard and fast.

If you want to see good JJ Abrams near future scifi- watch Fringe. It's excellent.

I really, really wanted to watch Lost, but I missed the first few episodes and, as it was the days before catch up streaming, I never managed to start it. Given how angry everyone got about it, definitely feels like I dodged a bullet...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Vermis wrote:
Actually, I put F&F at the level of Transformers: must-avoid movies. Was I wrong?

Yes.

The Transformers films are unmitigated disasters that only get worse as time goes on (that 5th one is utterly incomprehensible). I just watched most of the first one, and it's fine, at best.

I saw most of it, once. No idea how someone takes a live action/CGI take on 80s giant robots and makes it boring enough to fall asleep to.
But Michael Bay did. I conked out completely during one of the indistinguishable 'action' sequences in the second half.

I tried Lost but just felt it was what would happen if a small child tried to explain The Prisoner and they filled in the gaps with pretty people and rejected Fringe ideas

also the majority of Judd Apatows output, i just dont get it and his usual suspects annoy me beyond reason, might watch The Big Sick at some point because I liked Kamail and Emily back when they was Indoor Kids

 Vermis wrote:
My tastes are taking a battering. I watched The Dark Knight last night and enjoyed it. The Godfather is one of my favourites too.

Never apologise for what you like, never mistake someone else's opinions for fact, even if they state them that way. As long as you can back your opinion up with reasoning, or are prepared to hold your hands up and admit that you can't (rather than tie yourself in knots trying to justify it) then it's all fine.

I've studied media and English lit academically and consequently I'm done with investing my time into stuff that other people have decided is good or worthy.

I've never seen Citizen Kane or, I'm sure, a long list of other common "before you die" movies. Before I started the thread I'd gone through about a half dozen different lists looking for movies I had overlooked and I reckon I average a little over half on most of them, not always the same half, and I'm sure there's movies I've enjoyed who wouldn't make it on to one of those lists in a million years.

I tried to watch Taxi Driver with Deniro a few weeks back...I could not get past 15 minutes in. So I still haven't seen that.

Have not seen a new Disney film in like 15 years outside of starwars. Am I missing anything of real value?

Was being pushed to watch inception and finally watched that...Talk about overhyped.

excluding Pixar its a bit thin Wreck It Ralph and Moana are ok but the are essentially rebadged Pixar

oh and Sky High, very silly smoosh up of high school and capes a good 3-4 years prior to the MCU

 Xenomancers wrote:


Have not seen a new Disney film in like 15 years outside of starwars. Am I missing anything of real value?

Anything since Tangled is very real value

Technically the whole MCU is Disney in the last 15 years, but as with anything its value is dependent on your tastes. There's certainly been fewer missteps and more stuck landings than Star Wars in the same time frame IMO.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Technically the whole MCU is Disney in the last 15 years, but as with anything its value is dependent on your tastes. There's certainly been fewer missteps and more stuck landings than Star Wars in the same time frame IMO.

To put it mildly. The Disney era Star Wars movies don't hold a candle next to the MCU.

 Gitzbitah wrote:
Eh, the transformers films are definitely bad, and get worse- but Bumblebee is pretty good..

Bumblebee is by far the best of them. I enjoyed the first three as mindless action flicks, although Shia Labouf's character gets progressively more irritating as they go on. Age of Extinction was, I think, the best of the pre-Bumblebee batch, and then they followed it up with an incomprehensible mess.


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 Vermis wrote:
On that note, I haven't watched any JJ Trek films past the first. Is it me or do they all have the same plot anyway?.

They really don't.

The first two are fairly standard action movie fare, and enjoyable if you are into such things - I liked them, and don't understand the hate online for Into Darkness. The third is much more like classic Trek - similar in tone and pacing to the Next Gen-era movies. It suffered from coming after Into Darkness, rather than from not being good.

Ilike to think Bumblebee is partly an answer to "what do you do with a problem like Mikala", its simple you remove the supposed audience insert character, trust me sheer lebeef doesnt want to be sheer lebeef let alone anyone else, and make her the lead a quick recast and rename will be enough throw Bay off

 Xenomancers wrote:
Have not seen a new Disney film in like 15 years outside of starwars. Am I missing anything of real value?

As mentioned, Wreck-it-Ralph and Moana are good, but I'll also mention Big Hero 6 as it was quite good. Frozen, while not terrible or anything, just really doesn't live up to the hype at all, and you need not bother with the Wreck-it-Ralph sequel either.

Others have been talking about Batman, and I can honestly say the only ones I've seen all the way through were the 1966 one (with Adam West), the 1989 one, and Batman & Robin. Haven't seen any of the Nolan ones at all, although I've heard good things.

Lots of hate for the Transformers movies on here, and while it's understandable I have to mostly, respectfully, disagree. The only one I truly didn't care for was number 5. All the others were fun action movies; just unplug your brain and enjoy the show. They did focus a bit too much on the human characters instead of the robots, I'll admit.

 ZergSmasher wrote:

Lots of hate for the Transformers movies on here, and while it's understandable I have to mostly, respectfully, disagree. The only one I truly didn't care for was number 5. All the others were fun action movies; just unplug your brain and enjoy the show. They did focus a bit too much on the human characters instead of the robots, I'll admit.

The focus on the humans was part of it, made worse by the humans mostly being so damn annoying. The other problems for me (speaking as someone who did enjoy them overall, aside from 5) were that the robot designs were just too busy, the action was too fast to make out what was going on most of the time (remedied somewhat in 3 with more slomo and the transformations slowed down considerably) and the fact that them being transformers was largely irrelevant, particularly for the Decepticons who spend very little time in vehicle mode.

Alright, some of you may need to sit down for this one.

I have never seen:
Saving Private Ryan
Schindler's List



Comments on Gangster Movies: Goodfellas and Casino are both great movies. But I would still go with Casino. The stuff that happened in that movie, just wow. Cornfields scare the gak out of me.

 insaniak wrote:

I liked them, and don't understand the hate online for Into Darkness.

Apparently Star Trek fans could'n cope with an unnecessary (for the plot) scene in which there was a semi-naked Alice Eve in bra and panties. Nude scenes in Star Trek are considered taboo by them. Writer Damon Lindelof had to issue an apology for that.

Fans are insane

If you think that scene is considered to be in the top ten problems fans have with Into Darkness, you need to stop getting all your opinions from outrage videos.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
If you think that scene is considered to be in the top ten problems fans have with Into Darkness, you need to stop getting all your opinions from outrage videos.

I think they was mad at the lack of 'balancing' scene of Mr Urban going full Zardos

and surely if you accept Troi and 7 in their spray on pjs you dont do get to draw lines

My problem with Into Darkness is that the big "I'm actually Khan!" reveal meant nothing, as Khan only means something to the audience, and not the characters he's revealing it to.

I guess I have to go search NowTV for some car movies.

Also: I've never seen This Is Spinal Tap.

As for JJ Trek plots: don't they all feature a mysterious enemy with a threatening power who turns out to be a disgruntled figure from Starfleet's past? (Or as the case may be, future?)

And yeah, what disinterested me from the second film was the simple fact that they were shoehorning a Khan memberberry into it. I'm a sucker for nostalgia, but less so when it's used to prop up a lazy rehash.

Oh Spinal Tap is a treat, particularly if you've previously enjoyed any of the Monty Python films.

It pairs very well with another great piece of dry satire, Hot Fuzz.

edit- The real shame about the Transformers films is what they could have been. Try watching just a few episodes of Transformers Prime. They've got a unique story, distinct characters, human involvement, and excellent robot action. Give the creators of that show a movie budget, PG-13 clearance, and see what they can do with Last Stand of the Wreckers!

Never seen Star Wars ? I wouldn't say you're missing much. When you clear the thick layer of social phenomenon and nostalgia you'll get a silly, infantile story with flat characters, poor dialogue and cringiest attempts at humour.

On the other hand, if you haven't seen Alien/Aliens, the Terminator, Back to the Future or Indiana Jones trilogy ... then you've got some catching-up to do.

 Turnip Jedi wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
If you think that scene is considered to be in the top ten problems fans have with Into Darkness, you need to stop getting all your opinions from outrage videos.

I think they was mad at the lack of 'balancing' scene of Mr Urban going full Zardos

and surely if you accept Troi and 7 in their spray on pjs you dont do get to draw lines

I mean no one I know other than clickbait video makers cared about the cheesy underwear scene. The plot, the I’m not Khan, Okay I’m Khan, the reversed scenes from ST2, Khaaaaaaaaan, magic blood, Dumb ass Kirk, stupid Scotty, Section 31, Blingons, transporting to Kronos, etc., etc..

Trying to pretend a significant number of fans mostly objected to harmless tasteless fanservice over the deep flaws of the movie and its treatment of the IP is....well, it’s pushing for an agenda, and it makes one look untrustworthy as a source of information in the world.