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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
My Tau are flocked.


"Get flocked" is close to something I say to Tau players quite often

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 Dysartes wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
My Tau are flocked.


"Get flocked" is close to something I say to Tau players quite often



That's something I think everyone says when they play against Tau!

I have been toying with "recreating" my original Salamanders in Primaris, so of I do, time to get flockin!
   
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My first army - Skaven - are done exactly like that: Paint green, add glue, dip in green flocking. Put them all together and it looks like they're attacking across a pool table.

Second army - Bretonnia - is done similarly, but using a premade mix called 'spring flocking'. A couple shades of green with tiny amounts of yellow and red. Looks much better, at least from arm's length.

Third army was the Dark Elves. Got much more elaborate here using sand painted dark brown, snow flocking, and 'dead grass' static grass.

Fourth army was Dwarves. Added small rocks to sand painted grey (like gravel), and small clumps of the 'spring flocking'.

Current army in progress is Lizardmen. Again, using sand painted dark brown, but this time using a redder brown. Going for a 'ground level of the rainforest' look, dirt and dead leaves, not sure how I'm going to do the leaves yet. I could just use red, orange, and brown flocking but that seems too fluffy to get the effect I want.

I've heard some people use loose tea for such effects. Anyone have any experience with using tea for basing? Seems like it would be a bit monchromatic, can it be colored with inks before being glued to the base?

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Goblin green, flock, and then static grass if you were a fancy fether.

Good times.

Eventually I got those adhesive bushes for when I felt super bougie

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 Grimtuff wrote:
 FrozenDwarf wrote:
Everything has to start somewhere and then the evolution comes.

"flock" per say has no place in todays marked of static grass, different pastes and resin enviromental parts.


You can take my bird sand, slate and static grass from my cold, dead hands.

Hate those “basing” paints.


I still have a seemingly never ending carton of chinchilla dust for basing mine. It' amazing. Our dog is 12 so I must have had the carton for nearly fourteen years, left over from when we last had one of the critters.

   
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Remember? I flocked bases last week...

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I still do bases the old way. But that's because I'm still hanging on to the belief that one day I'll have my 3rd edition fantasy armies completely painted and based in some sort of coherent manner.

New models get newer methods. Flock still has its place though. Just have to be clever about how you use it. Multiple colours, sand, rocks, static grass of different lengths etc.
   
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I'm a hardcore flocker for the most part. Well, flock and static grass and gravel in different combinations depending on the army. For example, my Necrons are quite neautral in colour so I find a vibrant and simple green static grass/flock base sets off the models well, while my SM use a gravel/flock/grass mix.

I hate the textured paints and while scenic bases look OK, I find they often break immersion for me if your entire army is standing on a bunch of rocks or clambering over ruins modelled on their bases.
   
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I've never used flock before. It always seemed fiddly to me, and too easy to accidentally scrape off through use. I'm a Texture Paint guy.
   
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Yep, I flock. It is what was in the starter paint set I bought when I got back into the hobby. So, my first recent army had flock. Over sand

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alphaecho wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
 FrozenDwarf wrote:
Everything has to start somewhere and then the evolution comes.

"flock" per say has no place in todays marked of static grass, different pastes and resin enviromental parts.


You can take my bird sand, slate and static grass from my cold, dead hands.

Hate those “basing” paints.


I still have a seemingly never ending carton of chinchilla dust for basing mine. It' amazing. Our dog is 12 so I must have had the carton for nearly fourteen years, left over from when we last had one of the critters.


My bird sand is topped up quite frequently. The tub it is in however is a Rolo ice cream tub. I’m pretty sure Rolo ice cream has not existed for at least a decade. Think I’ve had that tub near 20 years by now.



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Nice one Grimtuff! I have a collection of Tesco and Asda coleslaw tubs from the early 2000s for all my sand and flocks. Still going strong!

I last flocked a model base... ooh, last week.

Tried the various textured gels and pastes - not a fan, to be honest. Tufts, on the other hand, are a great development.

The diorama and model railway crowd still use a ton of sand and flock, although it tends not to be dyed sawdust these days.
Tea leaves and dried herbs, of course, are great for fallen leaves.

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Wargaming: Where you glue actual sand to something, then paint the sand to make it look more like sand!

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I only did green flock for WFB IIRC. In fact the last few painted units I have up for sale in the Swap Shop are the last few I have with the flocked bases. I even have a small Tupperware container this a little bit left somewhere.

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I did the sand painted brown with patches of flock on top thing. As far as I recall, I've always edged my bases in black though, even during the goblin green days.

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My very first army was flocked. Mostly because I followed the painting guides I had found online and in army books.

It was only after I had gone to my first tournament that I realized no one did that anymore...

I have been slowly rebasing/painting my old army so I do still have a bunch of flocked bases, although I mixed my flock with some pebbles to give it a grassy field look.

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 Vulcan wrote:
=Current army in progress is Lizardmen. Again, using sand painted dark brown, but this time using a redder brown. Going for a 'ground level of the rainforest' look, dirt and dead leaves, not sure how I'm going to do the leaves yet. I could just use red, orange, and brown flocking but that seems too fluffy to get the effect I want.

I've heard some people use loose tea for such effects. Anyone have any experience with using tea for basing? Seems like it would be a bit monchromatic, can it be colored with inks before being glued to the base?


for leaves these are good http://www.greenstuffworld.com/pt/101-punches

(either used thin card and paint it, or even easier dry leaves)

 
   
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 malfred wrote:
I don't understand the problem with flock.


Simple. You don't do the thing in the book that they suggest to do as it'll look like what everyone else is doing, in theory. Instead, you do exactly what everyone else is doing in practice.

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 catbarf wrote:
I've never been one for flock myself, but there's something to be said for those old photos in White Dwarf and army codices where the green flock and Goblin Green base rims blend perfectly into the green flock of the table. Minis today tend to use their bases more as another element of theming the army, rather than to match a presumed board style.

So in that regard, odd as it might sound, I think the modern counterpart to flocked bases is clear (transparent) bases.


Not at all. A properly flocked base looks good. A 'clear' base just looks like a big chunk of plastic on the table.

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In my early years of wargaming it was still a thing. My skills were not up to par anyways so I'm glad I didn't waste any high quality materials

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I actually still do it as part of my 'normal' basing. It's just one of those things that I like to tie everything together. But it seems like that's the minority around these parts.

   
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Grimtuff wrote:I do all my bases with sand and static grass. It’s become such an alien concept with newer gamers it’s quite funny.

Luetin09 on YouTube had people asking him what on Earth he was doing when basing some minis on a stream once...


I was surprised...

...it’s now that much of a foreign concept to people in the GW ecosystem.

Nevelon wrote:I think the official GW recommendation is either using one of their sculpted bases, or smearing one of their technical baseing paints on to get the cracked mud/etc look.


... aaand then I wasn't.

infinite_array wrote:I'm pretty sure tons of people still use flock. I do. Static grass looks terrible on 15mm and smaller miniatures.


Spoiler:


Problem solved.

Grimtuff wrote:My bird sand is topped up quite frequently.


Just sieve it carefully. Unless you're basing nurgle. Or kroot.

   
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 Momotaro wrote:
Nice one Grimtuff! I have a collection of Tesco and Asda coleslaw tubs from the early 2000s for all my sand and flocks. Still going strong!

I last flocked a model base... ooh, last week.

Tried the various textured gels and pastes - not a fan, to be honest. Tufts, on the other hand, are a great development.

The diorama and model railway crowd still use a ton of sand and flock, although it tends not to be dyed sawdust these days.


I still have a 25 year old big bag of Woodland Scenics green blend and a felt mat that's flocked to match it. If my Tyranids were an active army of mine instead of being boxed up, I'd probably still be using flock here and there along with sand and static grass.

And yeah, there are folks in those hobbies using flock and making stuff that looks amazing. Nothing's wrong with the technique. It's just a look that GW doesn't push, and people follow their lead whether they want to admit it or not.

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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
 Vulcan wrote:
=Current army in progress is Lizardmen. Again, using sand painted dark brown, but this time using a redder brown. Going for a 'ground level of the rainforest' look, dirt and dead leaves, not sure how I'm going to do the leaves yet. I could just use red, orange, and brown flocking but that seems too fluffy to get the effect I want.

I've heard some people use loose tea for such effects. Anyone have any experience with using tea for basing? Seems like it would be a bit monchromatic, can it be colored with inks before being glued to the base?


for leaves these are good http://www.greenstuffworld.com/pt/101-punches

(either used thin card and paint it, or even easier dry leaves)


I've seen those before. Here in the desert in New Mexico, dry leaves are... not easy to acquire. On the other hand, tea is readily available at the grocery store.

Flocking is like drybrushing. It's a wonderful tool when used properly, but if you over-rely on it your results will not be as nice.

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 Easy E wrote:
Wargaming: Where you glue actual sand to something, then paint the sand to make it look more like sand!


I have unpainted sand for my Guardsmen bases. It's pretty obvious for what it is, but it is easy, which is good for guardsmen.

That said, I never wanted my soldiers to be fighting on grass, so I never did flocking. Mud is sand & sawdust mixed with brown. Snow was sand and baking soda mixed with white. I now use GW's effect paint, because the former methods made a hell of a mess and tend to shed everywhere, which GW's effect paint does a lot less. Mostly. Sorta.


I've always wanted to make a board for each of my armies, but boards are expensive and it wouldn't be a "good" playable board for most of them

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My Guard/WHFB/Warmahordes/ASoI&F are all sand/flock/static grass, albeit having added some tufts here and there as time has gone on. My GSC are all sand painted to look like gravel.

I quite like the basing pastes for things like crackled earth, but not for a typical dirt ground. I tried Astrogranite once but I just did not like it. That said I'm planning on investing in one of those giant tubs of Vallejo basing paste for a muddy-field look to my Flames of War Normandy models.

 malfred wrote:
I don't understand the problem with flock.

It's not the official Games Workshop(tm) way of doing things anymore, therefore it's wrong/bad.

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