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Depends.

Are they a new Ork Boy kit compatible with most of the other Orks in the range as the current boy kit is?

Or are they a bunch of option-less mono-pose models that all look fantastic and dynamic, but start to look weird when you have 2-3 of each dynamic pose per unit.

I'd probably buy a few, or more likely wait for a discount box that has them + a few extra units. The current set is decentish, though the legs are awful and I dislike their spine being at a 90 degree angle - a fixable issue but still kind of time consuming giving each individual boy back surgery and green stuff work along the waist.

That said, I'd rather see things moved from finecast into plastic, like Kommandos and Tankbustas, even though I've already personally filled my Kommando needs with Artel W. Also would be nice to see a generic Warboss in plastic, as well as mega armored Warboss.

I voted "Yes - I would mix them in with the boyz I already have", but they would have to not be insanely expensive and be somewhat of an upgrade.

If it's just more of the same with a big price hike, no.

If they go to a 20 man box they could stay the same price or even get cheaper. Especially here in Oz where they aren't terribly cheap now anyway. In the other thread people were suggesting they'd become Primaris level pricing, I think that would be insane for a unit of which you need many models.

I don't have any orks currently(other than some original blood bowl minis I kept) and have kinda been itchin for some orkyness. I'm fine with the current boy kit and I'm fine with a new one. I'd probably have both(I'd buy some used) in my army as orks should never look alike...as much as they look alike

Like, over a year ago, I got hold of an AOBR-era box of multipart marines. As I began using my files and hobby knives to carve through whole milimeters of mold-slippage, I caught myself thinking "Wow! This feels less like building marines and more like building Tyranids!"
The more modern Space Marine Minis I've put together (MK. III) are a real joy - they're multipart, and backwards compatible with countless older minis, and scaled nicely with them, too. Cleanup is quick and satisfying, as your knife or file just kind of dances over seam lines that are hardly there to begin with.

If Orks were to get an upgrade like this - a la the final few boxes of classic marines - it would be fantastic, and I'd be all over them - more bits, more character, more flavor, and a greater resource for customizing existing armies (also why not keep the old box in rotation, just for variety's sake? Really don't get why GW doesn't keep stuff in production...) but keeping thematically the same with the rest of the range.
Unfortunately, I think the trend has been, not only with GW as a whole, but going through Nobs, Freebootas, Stormboyz and most recently, the buggies...

...GW have kinda made it clear. The Ork aesthetic is being changed, and it's moved towards AOS orruks and monopose miniature. Their teasers are showing straighter backs, the new Granny Smith apple green skin, the GW Studio hasn't had an Ork army in how long? Call me chicken little, but I think the ork line is probably in for something significant, especially considering how we know 40k was due a much bigger shake-up with 8th, that was pulled last minute after the backlash AOS got at launch.

(also, tinfoil time but about a year ago I asked a question on the Warhammer Insta page about changes to the physionogmy of Ork sculpts going forward and it was deleted, rather than just ignored...)

So yeah, put me pretty hard in depends. If they're cool, they're cool. If they're wack? Man, I ain't gonna buy them.

Also, if they're like SoB, and nearly ￥9000? feth that, I love orks, but not that much.

Would not mind ‘mono-pose’ Ork Boyz, as long as their aesthetic fits with the current models. I’d even go for bigger Boyz, as they could be fielded as Skar Boyz. The prospect of future armies of 100 Boyz in three poses does not appeal.

If they wouldn't stand out too much from old sculpts, then I'd be tempted to mix them into mob of old boys to make it more varied. I'd 100% buy one box for coversion purposes.

If they released a different second kit and still kept the first I'd grab a couple of boxes. The parts would have to be interchangeable like how the lottas and old fantasy can mix with the current kit. If they go monopose I would buy one box and only one box and then I would be done. After that I'd have to go second market for what I need ex Kromlech.

I already have over 200 boyz, plus tankbustas, lootas, burnas, kommandos and stormboyz.

The only modern models I don't have are Flash Gitz and the new Nobz kit. I might pick those up before they go out of production if GW are gonna change the whole range, but I probably will not be interested in new Ork models that don't match my older models.

I think this poll needs an option of "No - I want to continue buying the current Boyz".

Other than "Depends" and "Don't care", all your options are pro-GW-making-new-Boyz, as you either want to buy new models for one reason or another, or you aren't buying new Boyz because you already have heaps in which case GW aren't making money off you buying Boyz either way.

Also the option "Only if they're somehow better than the .STLs from Geargut's Mek Shop."

Probably. Moar boyz iz alwayz gud!

How many? comes down to price.

i mean , if the boy kit would be amazingly good, like moar options than ever, include Ard boy bits, and remain cheap aswell as modular with the other boy based kits. Why not?

I still have 50 Boyz left to paint, so definitely not!

So far the main vibe I get from this thread is that there is a complete disconnect from what people expect from the new kit to be and what GW is likely going to deliver.

No wonder so many are in favor of getting new boyz.

 Jidmah wrote:
So far the main vibe I get from this thread is that there is a complete disconnect from what people expect from the new kit to be and what GW is likely going to deliver.

No wonder so many are in favor of getting new boyz.

I wouldn't presume what GW are "likely" to do these days, in recent years they've shown themselves to be quite varied in their approach.

If be happy if they did something akin to Savage Orcs... 10 unique monopose torsos but interchangeable arms/hands and boxed as a 20 man set, priced similar to their other 20 man units of recent times, enough bits to make a couple of them big shootas and a couple of Nobz.

I would love to start an Ork army for 3rd Ed. but I know that they'd probably be priced $60 US for a box of 10 Boyz, and that's too expensive for a horde army.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
So far the main vibe I get from this thread is that there is a complete disconnect from what people expect from the new kit to be and what GW is likely going to deliver.

No wonder so many are in favor of getting new boyz.

I wouldn't presume what GW are "likely" to do these days, in recent years they've shown themselves to be quite varied in their approach.

If be happy if they did something akin to Savage Orcs... 10 unique monopose torsos but interchangeable arms/hands and boxed as a 20 man set, priced similar to their other 20 man units of recent times, enough bits to make a couple of them big shootas and a couple of Nobz.

Savage orks were released more than 4 years ago, before even a single primaris marine was released. For what reason should they suddenly go back to that approach when multiple other horde unit releases were handled differently in the meantime?

The releases since then have all be following some clear trends, many of them in direct contradiction to the wishes described by the people on this thread.

The thing with Orks is that because of their alien nature they can be designed to work really well with modular kits. The big muscular arms, the way the torso and head and legs slot together, all of this is very outlandish and cartoony, and wouldn't work for a human or elf model where the proportions have to be "right" but are totally okay for Orks. So the old kits (to my mind anyway) are really great and don't really need an update. They capture the ork aesthetic and theme perfectly and are wonderfully modular and individual.

I recently played a game against my wife. I only had 40 boyz deployed on the table (it was a small game). She enjoys taking each model she kills like in chess and looking at them. She kept saying over and over "Oh wow, they're ALL individual!" she was really amazed that every single one of the 40 orks looked different. I dunno how she'd feel if she saw that all 180 of my boyz are different to each other - probably be more concerned about why anyone would need 180 tiny green space mans.

But if they move to a monopose sort of kit you will completely lose that and it would be a real shame. Orks should be anarchic and individual.

 Jidmah wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
So far the main vibe I get from this thread is that there is a complete disconnect from what people expect from the new kit to be and what GW is likely going to deliver.

No wonder so many are in favor of getting new boyz.

I wouldn't presume what GW are "likely" to do these days, in recent years they've shown themselves to be quite varied in their approach.

If be happy if they did something akin to Savage Orcs... 10 unique monopose torsos but interchangeable arms/hands and boxed as a 20 man set, priced similar to their other 20 man units of recent times, enough bits to make a couple of them big shootas and a couple of Nobz.

Savage orks were released more than 4 years ago, before even a single primaris marine was released. For what reason should they suddenly go back to that approach when multiple other horde unit releases were handled differently in the meantime?

The releases since then have all be following some clear trends, many of them in direct contradiction to the wishes described by the people on this thread.

What other horde unit releases have there been recently? I genuinely don't know, I haven't followed GW's main games for a while, I didn't think much has come out in the way of hordes lately, but maybe I just missed it. I know some folk were complaining about Genestealer Cults, I don't know how much they qualify as a "horde", and since GC came out we have had other 20 man units released for AoS.

Aside from Savage Orcs, there's the Bloodreavers, Kairic Acolytes, Slaves to Darkness (6 separate kits in the 16 to 20 model range), Mortrek Guard.

Mortkrek Guard are probably the most recent, coming out toward the end of 2019. But flicking through the 2020 releases nothing jumps out at me as a unit you'd want in a box of 20 anyway.

I sort of sit somewhere between the third and fifth options. If there was a sufficient degree of visual continuity that I could mix them into existing units without looking incongruous, then I probably would. If not, then I think I'd probably not bother.

From the top of my head:
Acolyte Hybrids (10 per box)
Neophyte Hybrids (5 per box)
Poxwalkers (10 per box)
Necron Warriors (10 per box)
Battle Sisters (10 per box)

Whatever they are doing for AoS, they clearly aren't doing for 40k.

You know, one neat option, albeit highly unlikely, would be the approach GW did with Chaos Warriors. A release of a "Start Collecting" type set with a group of dynamic models with limited pose options, that still fit the overall aesthetic of the army, while maintaining the older models as well.

 kurhanik wrote:
You know, one neat option, albeit highly unlikely, would be the approach GW did with Chaos Warriors. A release of a "Start Collecting" type set with a group of dynamic models with limited pose options, that still fit the overall aesthetic of the army, while maintaining the older models as well.

Feel like its not really needed considering how easy it is to build an Ork boy already. GW doesn't really get much of anything out of making a whole new sprue that is more restrictive than its original kit that doesn't offer much of anything new. The smarter play imo would be to go the Fire Warrior route which is a cleaned up and updated sprue that keeps the same fitting while also maybe adding bits for Kommandos, Scarboys, and/or Ard Boyz (like they did when adding Breachers for Fire Warriora). Easy way to get Ork players to buy new models that expand the range without invalidating (and thus pissing off) Ork players with a large amount of existing Boyz. Make it $50 for 15 and you squeeze a bit of extra profit from buying boyz while not being economically impenetrable for somebody looking to jump into Orks. Also expands the Ork offering without adding more Skus to stock on shelves when instead you can buy multiples of the same kit to make a wider variety of Ork units.

 Jidmah wrote:
From the top of my head:
Acolyte Hybrids (10 per box)
Neophyte Hybrids (5 per box)
Poxwalkers (10 per box)
Necron Warriors (10 per box)
Battle Sisters (10 per box)

Whatever they are doing for AoS, they clearly aren't doing for 40k.

Unless the rules have changed drastically since I last played, Necrons and Battle Sisters are absolutely NOT horde units. I would never have expected them to be released in units of 20 any more than I would expect Space Marines to be released in units of 20.

Poxwalkers are only 10, but they're relatively cheap still so I wouldn't be crying if Boyz came out at a similar price.

And would you really consider them a horde unit anyway given that I've never seen an army built around a horde of Poxwalkers? They're not like Tyranid Gaunts or Goblins or Orcs or Orks where you genuinely and regularly see armies fielded with of 100+ of them.

I know people use GC as an example of GW pushing too far, that might be one example that's true, I've not seen a GC army in the flesh I don't know how much of a "horde army" they are.

 amanita wrote:
I didn't answer your poll because I didn't see an appropriate response. I happen to really like the current sculpts, and they are plenty versatile as they are.

QFT, expresses my thoughts perfectly :-)

Sororitas are only horde if you take a bunch of ministorum arco-flaggelants...and even then not really.

I don't mind the look of the current boyz, but I *HATE* painting them. So many fiddly bitz on models you functionally need 100 of to field?

If they stripped the details down, a lot, and go entirely against their current model paradigm which is to cram as many details on as possible... I'd consider it. Like, a Guardsman for example has boots and belt, armour, cloth, and skin. There are 3 additional details in an Aquila on the helmet, chest, and lasgun. Add teef for Orks, and if that was the degree of details to worry about, i'd probably be happy, and would consider buying some more to paint. As is, I built and painted a Kill Team and I hated it. The painting part only Assembly and playing? Not bad! But I'll never paint another Ork Boy of the current design.

Voted depends. But also no.
The only thing that would get me to buy new Boys is if they were a new unit separate to the current Ork boys unit, not expecting that so no.
I've for gotten how many boys I already own and it's either 7 full mobs or 9 full mobs. Basically I own too many to actually use. I know at one point I had planned to field at least 300 in 3 Green tide formations but that was some time ago. The only other reason I would buy any is if they had a new special weapon, something too difficult to pass over to old boys with bitz or scratch build.
The new rounded modeling is not appealing to me. I dislike the new vehicles and Ghaz and wont own them. Massive pass on anything that look like that.

Orks are incredible because they are so versatile. You can create boyz, mekz, lootas, burnas, nobs, tankbustas, kommandos all from the same kits.

The conversion potential alone could be insane if done right.

However......after painting 80+ boyz in yellow (goddam bad moons lol) idk if I could do another horde of orks right now. I mean I didn't even rebase them from their 25mm bases. New ork boy kits would be great but its asking for a heck ton of needless busy work.