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 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Blackie wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Why would anyone want to buy these old crappy.models?

The SM are much better looking than anything primaris/gravis .

They're also inferior to the currently available Tactical Squad box.

Yeah, I could see if they went back to the old metals, some folk might have nostalgia for them (I loved the old metal Space Wolves), but those early multi pose kits were just like the ones we have now but worse.

It's a nice little poke at the nostalgia bones, but it would have been better as the whole box (I miss those old plastic 3rd edition ruins!)

I can't really see who the target audience for this is, but hey it's MTO, if people want to buy it, they can.

Now, if they wanted to put the 2nd edition Necromunda Bulkhead/cardboard terrain kits like the Bastion and Firebase on MTO, then they'd get my attention, and a huge amount of my money

Almost any other box from that era would be more interesting than this. Necromunda bulkheads are a great call. Or the Maccrage crashed shuttle. Or, how about, Battlefleet effin Gothic.

I actually want to play 3rd edition with era accurate models so this would be great if they’d offer a hardback reprint of the rules and you weren’t forced to buy both factions. It’s kinda cool as is but I’ll have to pass.

Oh ye spiky gods, is that the original plastic Land Speeder? The one that would only fit together if you had a vice and five hands?

yup, the one that made everyone reach for the rubber bands

I built one of those when I was 13 or 14. Sometimes I still have nightmares about it .

Charax wrote:
It's a nice little poke at the nostalgia bones, but it would have been better as the whole box (I miss those old plastic 3rd edition ruins!)

I can't really see who the target audience for this is, but hey it's MTO, if people want to buy it, they can.

Now, if they wanted to put the 2nd edition Necromunda Bulkhead/cardboard terrain kits like the Bastion and Firebase on MTO, then they'd get my attention, and a huge amount of my money

Old terrain. Who is the market for that?






I've even acquired a Bastion since that photograph.

That photograph mocks me... I almost had that Imperial Command Tower...

Looking forward to laughing at the price tomorrow.

Zenithfleet wrote:
Oh ye spiky gods, is that the original plastic Land Speeder? The one that would only fit together if you had a vice and five hands?

I assembled mine just fine way back when.

Such a strange choice by GW, I really can’t understand it. The DE warriors weren’t great when they were initially released, and they are very, very poor compared with their modern counterparts. As has been said, there is no benefit to getting the older version of the SM Tactical squad or Land Speeder.

It’s not like they will have suddenly unearthed old stock, as they will have to produce more if for some reason there is a high demand. I can’t see GW releasing them as a budget price either, as it would be seen to devalue the brand from their perspective.

There are so many other OOP plastic kits they could have re-released as MTO that would have sold like hot cakes, regardless of price. I’m thinking of all the oop Empire/Bretonnian stuff mainly, but what about the BA tactical squad, or the Space Hulk Termie/Genestealer sprues?! Or the Rogue Trader era Imperial Guard?

I mean, these are literally the worst kits to re-release. It’s utterly baffling, and equally disappointing.

I assume that GW are probably about to dispose of the old moulds, and just want one last pull on the nostalgia pump with them.

Ah, nothing quite like 3rd edition!

 Lord Damocles wrote:
I assume that GW are probably about to dispose of the old moulds, and just want one last pull on the nostalgia pump with them.

Maybe they are getting rid of the old moulds, though I'm interested in the fact they even still have the old moulds. Some folk have suggested GW would get rid of old plastic moulds due to not wanting to store or maintain them, but this suggests they do keep at least some of the old plastic moulds.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Some folk have suggested GW would get rid of old plastic moulds due to not wanting to store or maintain them,

IME those kinds of claims usually come from the sort of people who are for some reason compelled to invent excuses for GW's weird decisions.

alphaecho wrote:


I've even acquired a Bastion since that photograph.

I don't know whether to hate you or respect you. Lovely collection.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Some folk have suggested GW would get rid of old plastic moulds due to not wanting to store or maintain them,

IME those kinds of claims usually come from the sort of people who are for some reason compelled to invent excuses for GW's weird decisions.

That or they've just found some which they forgot to put in the dumpster ten years ago.

Warhammer World did manage to find a whole bunch of copies of the Gorkamorka boxed game about a decade after the game was canned (which they flogged in Bugman's Bar), so who knows..?

Good to see this come out, but I think it would have been better to sell it with the upgraded/ updated models.

Agree on all fronts though.

I can see the nostalgia value, as I've been putting together a 2nd Edition box set for E bay.

I do have to admit that these current overengineered figs do give you that wish for some older styled ones.

Maybe not THIS old, but...

Strange to see these guys. Just had a discussion not two or three days ago about that time when 2d was ending, and 3d edition came out with these "New" Dark Eldar.

Kinda an odd one! But I still have my box (very worned-out now though, it was my first "carrying case" ) and the book, but I'm not sure what happed to the models as we weren't playing those armies. Still dont so interest is very low, but with a cheap enough price it would be funny to complete the box again and paint them. But knowing GW, that silly idea will be put to bed easily when the price is announced!

Lol one could think gw assaulted them from their reactions

Always thought this box set was complete garbage, especially when compared to the contemporary fantasy starter. The fantasy set contained almost the full £50 box set of Orcs and Empire miniatures and covered most of the bases when it come to learning the game you had a unit of combat and ranged infantry, a war machine, and a leader for each faction as well as the rules and some scenery.

For the 40k starter you got 2 basic sets of infantry and a random speeder that was completely indestructible because the DEldar didn't have anything stronger than a Splinter Cannon.

Also why this and not something cooler like Assault on Black Reach or Dark Vengeance?

That 6e starter was awesome. To be fair, the 5e, 7e and 8e starters were also all really great.

Battle for Macragge was lacklustre, the only starter since 2e I didn't buy. Assault on Black Reach was awesome, really good selection of models particularly the Ork half. Dark Vengeance is also pretty nice, if a bit one sided.

3e starter I mostly remember thinking the ruins and jungle trees were awesome.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Always thought this box set was complete garbage, especially when compared to the contemporary fantasy starter. The fantasy set contained almost the full £50 box set of Orcs and Empire miniatures and covered most of the bases when it come to learning the game you had a unit of combat and ranged infantry, a war machine, and a leader for each faction as well as the rules and some scenery.

For the 40k starter you got 2 basic sets of infantry and a random speeder that was completely indestructible because the DEldar didn't have anything stronger than a Splinter Cannon.

Also why this and not something cooler like Assault on Black Reach or Dark Vengeance?

It wasn't great, no. Particularly if you take out the plastic ruins, which were the best part of it... and you know, the game. This is literally the worst part of the set, and the only part you could actually buy as updated parts. Which makes it even weirder.

It will be extra funny if it's more expensive than just buying a current tac squad box + Land Speeder box +2 Kabalite Warrior boxes... which I can totally see.

 Grot 6 wrote:
Good to see this come out, but I think it would have been better to sell it with the upgraded/ updated models.

Agree on all fronts though.

I can see the nostalgia value, as I've been putting together a 2nd Edition box set for E bay.

I do have to admit that these current overengineered figs do give you that wish for some older styled ones.

Maybe not THIS old, but...

Strange to see these guys. Just had a discussion not two or three days ago about that time when 2d was ending, and 3d edition came out with these "New" Dark Eldar.

A full 2nd edition boxed set with rules and all would get my nostalgic juices flowing and I'd be inclined to buy it (assuming the price isn't insane). 2nd edition was when I started, 3rd edition just a couple of years after that, but I never bought a 2nd edition starter (one mate bought the 2nd edition 40k starter, another the 5th edition WHFB starter, and I grabbed the Epic 40k starter back in the day).

But 3rd edition, meh.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
Good to see this come out, but I think it would have been better to sell it with the upgraded/ updated models.

Agree on all fronts though.

I can see the nostalgia value, as I've been putting together a 2nd Edition box set for E bay.

I do have to admit that these current overengineered figs do give you that wish for some older styled ones.

Maybe not THIS old, but...

Strange to see these guys. Just had a discussion not two or three days ago about that time when 2d was ending, and 3d edition came out with these "New" Dark Eldar.

A full 2nd edition boxed set with rules and all would get my nostalgic juices flowing and I'd be inclined to buy it (assuming the price isn't insane). 2nd edition was when I started, 3rd edition just a couple of years after that, but I never bought a 2nd edition starter (one mate bought the 2nd edition 40k starter, another the 5th edition WHFB starter, and I grabbed the Epic 40k starter back in the day).

But 3rd edition, meh.

OTOH, the Epic: 40k box was totally sweet.

Honestly think that this is a really neat release from GW. Minis some of the old Warhammer Fantasy minis, between this and the Middle Earth MTO stuff...

It really is just like the old GW pamphlets inside the boxes of models I used to stare at as a teen.

Don't really understand the hate. This isn't taking any development time from any other GW products, and it is a great lot to put on display for people who viewed 3rd as the pinnacle of 40k gaming, or jumped in at that time. All the time it is taking is for a worker to swap a mold out in a machine and produce enough pre-ordered copies to ship out.

Can tell you now that everything I own from that starter box has long since been broken and trashed, really wouldn't mind owning it again just for the memory.

What hate? More like bafflement.


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 NH Gunsmith wrote:
Can tell you now that everything I own from that starter box has long since been broken and trashed, really wouldn't mind owning it again just for the memory.

If they did that, it would be neat... but it's not what they have said. They are rereleasing the models, which is 1) the weakest part of the box set and 2) the only part which has (better) replacements on sale.

To be honest the best news out of it is what HBMC alluded to before, the fact that they can mould plenty of earlier stuff. That's awesome news. Hopefully means more stuff is available down the line.

Nice enough release I guess, although the DE minis are terrible and I ended up converting my landspeeder into crashed speeder terrain since getting the thing together was too difficult.

What I'd really be interested in is a re-run of the WHFB 6th edition box, although it's unlikely to happen before TOW launches.

 streetsamurai wrote:
Why would anyone want to buy these old crappy.models?

To be fair you have to have some context.



I mean these guys were 10x better than the ones they replaced.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Almost any other box from that era would be more interesting than this. Necromunda bulkheads are a great call. Or the Maccrage crashed shuttle. Or, how about, Battlefleet effin Gothic.

Why must you make me cry

We could have BFG plastics...

I'll never understand why GW didn't do a quick release of plastic cruisers when the PC game out. Or it's sequel.