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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Why would anyone want to buy these old crappy.models?

To be fair you have to have some context.



I mean these guys were 10x better than the ones they replaced.

OTOH, those hit me right in the nostalgia. I did print some like those a while ago just to have some xD

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Why would anyone want to buy these old crappy.models?

To be fair you have to have some context.



I mean these guys were 10x better than the ones they replaced.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Almost any other box from that era would be more interesting than this. Necromunda bulkheads are a great call. Or the Maccrage crashed shuttle. Or, how about, Battlefleet effin Gothic.

Why must you make me cry

We could have BFG plastics...

I'll never understand why GW didn't do a quick release of plastic cruisers when the PC game out. Or it's sequel.

It's partly any of that. Any of their back catalog, rather than an army that they've almost completely replaced and generic marines that just stand out from current marines by being so bland and un-detailed.

But also... They still have production issues for current kits. Why waste time/resources on this of all things? The opportunity cost here is baffling.

Yeah, the 2nd edition models are absolutely worse looking than the 3rd edition ones, but I'd be more inclined to buy the 2nd edition models because they're something different to what we have now. Those old monopose models had a certain charm the way you could clean and basecoat a couple of squads in a few hours to start playing a game the same weekend that you bought the set.

Or maybe it's just because I'm biased towards 2nd edition because it's when I started

And yeah, no hate here, just stating that I like the idea but they picked a set I have no interest in buying and I doubt there's too many people who do (not none, but not many would be my guess).

Yeah same, this is cool in principle but somehow they picked almost the worst possible box for it.

The fact you only get bolter guys, no sergeant/special weapon sprue, makes this seem *really* low effort and weird.

Zenithfleet wrote:
Oh ye spiky gods, is that the original plastic Land Speeder? The one that would only fit together if you had a vice and five hands?

Yep. I built three of these myself. Used rubber bands instead of a vice and a healthy dose of patience.


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AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
Good to see this come out, but I think it would have been better to sell it with the upgraded/ updated models.

Agree on all fronts though.

I can see the nostalgia value, as I've been putting together a 2nd Edition box set for E bay.

I do have to admit that these current overengineered figs do give you that wish for some older styled ones.

Maybe not THIS old, but...

Strange to see these guys. Just had a discussion not two or three days ago about that time when 2d was ending, and 3d edition came out with these "New" Dark Eldar.

A full 2nd edition boxed set with rules and all would get my nostalgic juices flowing and I'd be inclined to buy it (assuming the price isn't insane). 2nd edition was when I started, 3rd edition just a couple of years after that, but I never bought a 2nd edition starter (one mate bought the 2nd edition 40k starter, another the 5th edition WHFB starter, and I grabbed the Epic 40k starter back in the day).

But 3rd edition, meh.

Agreed. I would buy a 2nd starter box without hesitation. Though it would need to include EVERYTHING which was in the box itself back in the day. Only the models wouldn´t be good enough.

I would buy all the old rulebooks, and I mean all of them, if they made them available by pdf or in print. I know I could get them on the secondary market but I'm a bit lazy about hunting around for them.

Notice how three pairs of the Marines in the picture are photoshopped copies.

I’d love to pick up a skirmish force of the old Dark Eldar. For everyone saying they are cheap and plentiful, please point me to where I can get 10 to 20 of them New On Sprue for $1 per mini or less? I’m also interested in trade.

I think this is cool. Including the terrain would have been better, but still neat.

Edit: Now do Island of Blood, GW!

"The ones they replaced" are adorably cute. I wish GW had reprinted the 2nd Ed box instead.

Blastaar wrote:
I think this is cool. Including the terrain would have been better, but still neat.

Edit: Now do Island of Blood, GW!

I bought 2 boxes of Island of Blood, when came back for a while, but I would still grab another 2, just to round up my High elf force.

Also I would throw cash at GW, if they do a Made to Order run for Bretonnian and Tomb Kings units and characters.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

Also why this and not something cooler like Assault on Black Reach or Dark Vengeance?

They had DV as MTO two years ago. It wasn't that well received (price, Dark Angels...). The models from AoBR (albeit fewer) they sold as Battle for Vedros five years ago. Wasn't a major success either (the price was okay though).

The 3rd edition models are an odd choice, sure. The Dark Eldar weren't good even back then (the whole range wasn't, maybe with the exception of Rakarth and two of the Grotesques) but I guess you can loot the heads and weapons to mix them into the current kit. The Marines are... well, just generic old Marines.

I do have soem vague nostalgia for these guys, it was my first starter set.

But man do the dark eldar look... not great.

I do remember my first test game at a store was with these guys. I played dark eldar and I think got wiped out completely without causing a single casualty to my opponent.

Island of Blood was great for Skaven players.
I was a fan of Skull Pass - spider riders had me doing backflips of joy.

3rd ed. 40box was OK - I have some of the marines still in service, and some bits of dark eldar I used for spikes on my Avatar, spikes on my wraithlord, spikes on my warp spider exarch, plus some de-spiked guardian conversions.

That said, not my favorite starter box by a mile.

2nd ed, I still have maybe 40 or so grots painted nicely, and use them in my walker cult, as they have been charmed into walking up front like bug-eyed zombies, so explaining the single pose.

If I had to choose, Black Reach would be the models that I might be inclined to buy, if the price were ... impossibly reasonable.

6th and 7th were also solid. Of them, I would prefer to see the 7th ed set (cuz I collect Orks and OG marine).

Zenithfleet wrote:
Oh ye spiky gods, is that the original plastic Land Speeder? The one that would only fit together if you had a vice and five hands?

Was the Land Speeder in 2nd edition plastic and metal?

only plastic part of the 2nd ed. one was the flying stand, it was a brick

I wonder if they have a new injection machine (machines) and are using this to test how to adapt some of their older moulds to use it (with these moulds being ones they wouldn't be too sad to see fail if things go wrong)

after all they may be going back to older moulds in a big way if the Old World works out like some are predicting

Billicus wrote:
The fact you only get bolter guys, no sergeant/special weapon sprue, makes this seem *really* low effort and weird.

It’s the old multipart tactical squad kit, so it comes with a flamer and a missile launcher

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
The fact you only get bolter guys, no sergeant/special weapon sprue, makes this seem *really* low effort and weird.

It’s the old multipart tactical squad kit, so it comes with a flamer and a missile launcher

The description given very specifically says ten bolter dudes.

The photoshopping of the unit may also reasonably imply that the sergeant, flamer, and missile have been removed from it.

In which case it is not the models from the third edition set and this is a bit naughty of GW to say it is. It should have the sergeant and special/heavy weapon sprue also.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/warhammer-40000-3rd-ed-miniatures-box-mto-2021

NZ $198 which is around £60, US$100, €80

EDIT prices checked against Ork Battlewagon

 DaveC wrote:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/warhammer-40000-3rd-ed-miniatures-box-mto-2021

NZ $198 which is around £60, US$100, €78

EDIT updated prices - picked a non-standard piece initially

Oh wow xD.

Well, at least is least expensive than buying the same, current stuff.

A bit.

Saves ~30% over buying the current versions of the kits.

Not even nearly worth it.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Saves ~30% over buying the current versions of the kits.

Not even nearly worth it.

I doubt anyone who buys this is doing it because they think they are getting a good deal on marines/Dark Eldar.

 streetsamurai wrote:
Why would anyone want to buy these old crappy.models?

The funny thing is, with the DE models, you can make them Aspect Warrior alt models - Banshees, Scorpions, Reapers. A few trimmed blades off them, and a decent paintjob - plastic aspects!

I know, as I finally pulled the DE out of my 3E set a few months back (putting old things to storage, pulled the unused sprues from the box) and as I was looking at the sprue, remembered my friends bought a couple boxes in the day to do that exact same thing.

Would have been tempting at $50. At $100? Absurd.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
The fact you only get bolter guys, no sergeant/special weapon sprue, makes this seem *really* low effort and weird.

It’s the old multipart tactical squad kit, so it comes with a flamer and a missile launcher

It does not come with those parts judging by the image and the description, "ten space marines armed with bolters".

Billicus wrote:

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
The fact you only get bolter guys, no sergeant/special weapon sprue, makes this seem *really* low effort and weird.

It’s the old multipart tactical squad kit, so it comes with a flamer and a missile launcher

It does not come with those parts judging by the image and the description, "ten space marines armed with bolters".

Yeah - it looks like it doesn't include the accessory sprue.

Gives me a lot of nostalgia for my original DE army - 60 warriors with 2 dark lances a squad. Cheaper than IG and BS 4 so it was always a win by attrition.

And depending on the edition a screening skirmish line of grotesques to absorb bolter fire.

Yeah, I was that person.