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Kill Team, like War Cry, is the natural home for “they exist in 40K, they’re hella cool, but can’t quite carry an army on their own, because of their established background”.

So yes. Definitely Arbites for my Wishlist.

 Segersgia wrote:


And SNIKROT!!!!

"And that's how I ended up spending a whack of cash on Orks" is my weak defence when the Long Haired Admiral wants to know why I've restarted an army I previously sold on.

Yup, clearly arbites.
I will only say its a good thing if they acompany an inquisitor (and a "real" inquisitor like Greyfax, not som bogus xeno lover like Kyria Draxus).

Nothing really exiting there.

The inquisitor Will be the mecha dog

Why does Farsight look like got a proper sword though?

 Fayric wrote:
Yup, clearly arbites.

Well... not to all of us.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Nothing really exiting there.

That stuff is probably just meant to tide us over till the end of April and Warhammer Fest 2023, where they'll be almost guaranteed to do the big reveals for 2023.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 BertBert wrote:

nightwolf2040 wrote:
Could the eldar be exodites?

I don't believe so. The silhouette looks distinctly dark eldar with all those blades and spikes.

Valrak says that it's gonna be the next Killteam box set, Arbites vs. Dark Eldar. He has a pretty good run recently, so that's probably right.

Too bad. I was hopping for some more corsair action.

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 BertBert wrote:

nightwolf2040 wrote:
Could the eldar be exodites?

I don't believe so. The silhouette looks distinctly dark eldar with all those blades and spikes.

Valrak says that it's gonna be the next Killteam box set, Arbites vs. Dark Eldar. He has a pretty good run recently, so that's probably right.

Too bad. I was hopping for some more corsair action.

Who knows, the other dudes in the team could still be from more interesting subfactions, Beastmasters + Beasts, Mandrakes, sth. like that.

It's going to be tougher if Dark Eldar only get an upgrade sprue. You could get Mandrake arms on your Warrior or Wych body, possibly a pair of legs if they go almost all out like with Necrons, but at the end of the day two thirds or more of the plastic parts come from a unified kit and the rest is what they can cram on the upgrade sprue. There's only so much room for exotic stuff if they go that way. And realistically, that's how it's been for most Kill Team boxes.

 Fayric wrote:
Yup, clearly arbites.
I will only say its a good thing if they acompany an inquisitor (and a "real" inquisitor like Greyfax, not som bogus xeno lover like Kyria Draxus).

Guilliman's girlfriend is and Eldar witch. Think of what kind of example that sets for the underlings. These are strange times.

I've always hoped that GW would take some of the 4th Ed Marine concept art and apply it to the Primaris line. When the rumours of "Primaris Missile Marines" first came up, I'd hoped that they'd go in this direction:



... and less "missiles on the end of a stick".

Yes, it's a silhouette - we get that - but it doesn't offer much promise.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I've always hoped that GW would take some of the 4th Ed Marine concept art and apply it to the Primaris line. When the rumours of "Primaris Missile Marines" first came up, I'd hoped that they'd go in this direction:

Spoiler:

... and less "missiles on the end of a stick".

Yes, it's a silhouette - we get that - but it doesn't offer much promise.

Rocket on a stick works for Orks. Primaris already looted an Ork buggy. Stands to reason they wouldn't stop there.

Honestly? I had totally forgotten about the missile Marine rumor and all I saw in the silhouette was a Marine with a net gun...

 Geifer wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I've always hoped that GW would take some of the 4th Ed Marine concept art and apply it to the Primaris line. When the rumours of "Primaris Missile Marines" first came up, I'd hoped that they'd go in this direction:

Spoiler:

... and less "missiles on the end of a stick".

Yes, it's a silhouette - we get that - but it doesn't offer much promise.

Rocket on a stick works for Orks. Primaris already looted an Ork buggy. Stands to reason they wouldn't stop there.

Honestly? I had totally forgotten about the missile Marine rumor and all I saw in the silhouette was a Marine with a net gun...

Belt-fed net gun!

It looks like it is some sort of bolter-based main body with something like mini hunter-killers attached to it. The round things that are sort of protruding from it remind me of sensor coverings for e.g. heat-seeking missiles that get flipped open shortly before firing.

So up until Summer 2023, our 40k releases are looking like:

Imperial Guard

World Eaters

AoO themed books and new character models for Vashtorr, Azreal, Farsight, Snikrot. Possibly others like Dante

At least two new Kill Teams, and two other existing kits with upgrade sprues added.

Likely a generic space marines boxed set just before 10E

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I've always hoped that GW would take some of the 4th Ed Marine concept art and apply it to the Primaris line. When the rumours of "Primaris Missile Marines" first came up, I'd hoped that they'd go in this direction:



... and less "missiles on the end of a stick".

Yes, it's a silhouette - we get that - but it doesn't offer much promise.

I’d love to hear the reason these sketches seemingly progressed no further.

I mean, the Missile Launcher kind of did, after a fashion as we can see design elements of the Centurion suits. But why didn’t they pursue this type of design in the end?

Not in a “you’re gonna have to defend that decision” neckbeard way. I just think it would be an interesting insight into the design process from an angle we don’t often see.


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 xttz wrote:
So up until Summer 2023, our 40k releases are looking like:

Imperial Guard

World Eaters

AoO themed books and new character models for Vashtorr, Azreal, Farsight, Snikrot. Possibly others like Dante

At least two new Kill Teams, and two other existing kits with upgrade sprues added.

Likely a generic space marines boxed set just before 10E

Which interestingly does suggest the recent “obviously a new Votann model” may turn out to be an Anniversary type model.

Drukhari and Tau...kewl!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

I mean, the Missile Launcher kind of did, after a fashion as we can see design elements of the Centurion suits. But why didn’t they pursue this type of design in the end?

The Frag Launchers on the Aggressors share a lot of the same design cues as the Missile Launchers. Also, the super chunky Havoc Lascannon takes a lot of cues from this art.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Which interestingly does suggest the recent “obviously a new Votann model” may turn out to be an Anniversary type model.

Would be fitting to get a White Dwarf that's just a space dwarf instead of the cosplaying ones we've had before.

I suppose the KT box could also be Inquisition (including an Arbite) vs. Dark Eldar. We saw bits in the rumor engine a while ago that looked like a vat-soldier (or something) from the old Inquisitor rulebook.

Interesting to see how it will turn out.

Guy with shield could be

Navy boarding team - didn't they recently show off some?
Guard Boarding team - there are so very many Guard regiments using so many different kinds of equipment its such a shame we see so few variants.

or it could be Arbites/enforcers

 Mr Morden wrote:
Navy boarding team - didn't they recently show off some?

If by "recently show off" you mean "released in the first Gallowdark box", yes.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

I mean, the Missile Launcher kind of did, after a fashion as we can see design elements of the Centurion suits. But why didn’t they pursue this type of design in the end?

The Frag Launchers on the Aggressors share a lot of the same design cues as the Missile Launchers. Also, the super chunky Havoc Lascannon takes a lot of cues from this art.

Paragon boss Sister has missile launchers of similar design as well. Normal Paragons as well, albeit with different weaponry.

I think the design from the sketches may have ended up too blocky for the generally rounded Marine power armor and was not pursued any further in that particular shape because of it . But the basic idea did persist.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Which interestingly does suggest the recent “obviously a new Votann model” may turn out to be an Anniversary type model.

Might just be that new Votann are in the next KT season from Q3 2023 onwards. I'm sure they have a scheduled planned out for at least 1-2 years.

I think that one of the anniversary miniatures will be the inquisitor catachan from blanche artwork. (and the other snikrot? hahah)

The rumor engineer from votann maybe is a kill tem (expansion sprue or a new unit)

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I mean, the Missile Launcher kind of did, after a fashion as we can see design elements of the Centurion suits. But why didn’t they pursue this type of design in the end?

Not in a “you’re gonna have to defend that decision” neckbeard way. I just think it would be an interesting insight into the design process from an angle we don’t often see.

Back when they started with the range refresh for 3rd edition and plastic kits for essentially all the marine troops, they had this huge overarching vision of the whole marine - and by a lesser degree also the chaos marine - range being almost totally interchangeable between the different kits, characters etc., with a steady supply of customization kits from FW not only for the classic legions, but also custom chapters like Red Scorpions and so on. It was a totally different desing philosophy from today - don't forget that these sketches will have their 20th anniversary next year, and were made at a point in time when the studio designed the 4th edition marines codex.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Nothing really exiting there.

Of course not - these are models which are joining the range, not leaving it...

Can't say I'm massively enthused about any of those stills, with the exception of there being possible Arbites.

I hope that's Farsight, rather than a random melee Tau suit, but the sword looks weird compared to his usual one. Spiky Eldar with Birb could be interesting if it isn't just a Kabalite - as noted, a Beastmaster would be more useful, especially if it came with other plastic beasts.

When I first saw that Farsight I assumed it was going to be sort of more relaxed theming where he's holding his sword in something like a classic samurai sword drawing/sheathing pose or just a surveying the battlefield sort of thing, but looking at it again though he's aiming his plasma gun in one arm and holding the sword in a very action-focused position with the other. Bit of a shame as the former would have been a nice change from all the over-the-top action poses all the time.

 Dysartes wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Nothing really exiting there.

Of course not - these are models which are joining the range, not leaving it...

Can't say I'm massively enthused about any of those stills, with the exception of there being possible Arbites.

I hope that's Farsight, rather than a random melee Tau suit, but the sword looks weird compared to his usual one. Spiky Eldar with Birb could be interesting if it isn't just a Kabalite - as noted, a Beastmaster would be more useful, especially if it came with other plastic beasts.

I have a feeling we're seeing him from behind and that the way the sword, flowing ribbons on the end of the sword, and "wings" on his arms/shield interact because of shadow silhouette are what's making it look weird and not Farsight-y.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
When I first saw that Farsight I assumed it was going to be sort of more relaxed theming where he's holding his sword in something like a classic samurai sword drawing/sheathing pose or just a surveying the battlefield sort of thing, but looking at it again though he's aiming his plasma gun in one arm and holding the sword in a very action-focused position with the other. Bit of a shame as the former would have been a nice change from all the over-the-top action poses all the time.

I got that first impression as well but I believe he might indeed be "drawing" that sword, either from some sort of sheath or just through the air across his mid-section. In any case, this being a Tau suit, the kit is likely modular enough to change his pose without much hassle.

Much like like this image here only with the sword across his body:

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

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 xttz wrote:
So up until Summer 2023, our 40k releases are looking like:

Imperial Guard

World Eaters

AoO themed books and new character models for Vashtorr, Azreal, Farsight, Snikrot. Possibly others like Dante

At least two new Kill Teams, and two other existing kits with upgrade sprues added.

Likely a generic space marines boxed set just before 10E

Which interestingly does suggest the recent “obviously a new Votann model” may turn out to be an Anniversary type model.

Honestly after seeing this the 4/5 Votann rumours seem more likely to be larger release than one off character or killteam as it would seem they aren't coming in the next 3-6 months and a single character/killteam would be the only thing to fit in there.Theres too many different bits for it to be just one model.

Theres still this image form the original batch in October which looks Votann- the missile cluster is the same design as the one on the Land Fortress.[/url] https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html#2021-10-26[url]

Agamemnon2 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Which interestingly does suggest the recent “obviously a new Votann model” may turn out to be an Anniversary type model.

Would be fitting to get a White Dwarf that's just a space dwarf instead of the cosplaying ones we've had before.

Although I would totally want this as well or a Votann Bugman. Hopefully the anniversary will have. a few collectible models for it.