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TERMINATOR ASSAULT; SECOND WAVE!
Here’s the 2nd squad of terminators, gotta say my favourite terminator overall is the squad leader reading words of power from a book, mainly because he looks so relaxed.



EVERYONE’S QUESTION
So many people are asking for a full army shot but sadly my camera isn’t cut out for it, with luck they be photographed by someone with a much beefier camera at their first real tournament on the 14th of this month. Till then here’s a small group photo of all the units.



THE POWER OF THE TUTELARIES!
With the army completed I’m now started work on the tutelary objective markers. Tularies where warp entities that the thousand sons summoned to enhance and help channel their powers. These were inspired by the amazing conversion work done by Isotope99 on BOLS who converted Tularies for each of his warriors, his thousand sons won best army at Throne Of Skulls so I recommend you check them out.



Anyway like him I converted each of them to represent their cult so going from the right…
Pyrae: Converted from a dark eldar mandrake, I decided to have him floating above the base, thou he’s the only one I have doubts about as I‘m sure I could do better for a pyrokinetic?
Corvidae: This one was a no brainer as the raven is the cult’s main symbol.
Athenean: I converted a wraith to look like some kind of dark puppet master given that this is a cult of powerful telepaths.
Raptora: My personal favourite, he was converted with the idea that the Raptora are probably the most powerful as they are able to create kinetic shields and move items with telekinesis (which I added as a base detail). I actually based his off the spirit from the Soul Calibur V game.

The Pavoni tutelary will be done later in the week, which will be converted from the dark elf sorceress. Also if anyone can suggest a good method to paint glowing sprirts please send me a link?

Group shot and the tutelaries look really, really good! Raptora is my personal fav too!

Nice work on the termies! They look even better than I thought they would turn out.

Tutelaries are very cool, very well thought out. If you were ever thinking of making some more, I am going to be using some Egyptian themed guys from the store below, with a few conversions of course!

https://www.crocodilegames.com/store/itemList.cfm?catID=14&sort=prodID

Keep up the great work dude.

I love the Army, it prob feels good to finally have come this far!

This is one of the better pre-heresy thousand son's armies I have seen out there. The amount of work you are putting into this army really shows.

I like this army alot better then the one you showed us that won TOS.

THE POWER OF THE TUTELARIES
After a week of painting my Tutelary objectives are finally finished, again for those of you who don’t know Tutelaries were ‘friendly daemons’ (of sorts) that the thousand sons employed as familiars.
I tried several techniques but in the end used the white dwarf tutorial for the spirits on the vampire counts’ mortis engine with 2 alterations, I used the new light blue dry brush paint and finished it off with a coat of the new blue glaze. The end results speak for themselves.



So regarding them each individually…

Raptora; I added some more rocks to add to the telekinetic effect.

Pavoni; I was going to use a wood elf sorceress but then the plastic dark elf one came out, I decided to give her a ghost/serpent like tail as it seemed suitable to a cult that has healing powers. The hardest part was attaching her to the base, in the end I glued the end of her tail into the base and painted an effect to make it look like she was emerging through the pillar.

Atheneans; I planned to add some spikes on his back to give him some more detail but I instead gave him some much cooler looking wings.

Pyrae; I was planning to ditch this guy as he seemed a bit dull compared to the others, but then I painted him! Now I’m debating if I should paint the flames yellow or purple?

Corvidae; Still a simple but great Tutelary.

So tell me; which is your favourite?

Your stuff is great keep up the great work!

MY OWN JUDGEMENT OF NIKAEA
A bit of thousand sons’ fluff, the Council of Nikaea was when Magnus and his legion were put on trial during the discussion to outlaw the use of psychic powers and sorcery within the Imperium.
Tomorrow I’m off to Warhammer World for a friendly store to store tournament, however the tournament is run by one of the event staff who will likely give me my own little trial of Nikaea regarding the components I’ve used for the terminators.

When I first started work on the terminators I sent an email to GW showing an image from a Deathwing army that was also using the robes asking if it would be okay to use them at Throne Of Skulls. They replied…

Nick Bayton wrote:“I’m afraid you won’t be allowed to use those miniatures in one of our events, if Games Workshop makes a model for something, we expect you guys to use it. Games Workshop makes Deathwing Terminators, so we would need you to use those. ”

Feeling as thou the creative side of the hobby was a mere shadow at the HQ I decided to not bother going to Throne Of Skulls. But since then the army has gone on to become my best work so I would like to take them to Throne Of Skulls later this year.
So in the unlikely situation the issue isn’t brought up, I’ll talk to the events person about it and see if I can be allowed to feature at least 1 terminator squad in an army full of conversions made of all GW parts for when I complete my Legio Cybernetcia and Spire Guard allies. I try and explain that a friend green stuffed the robes on top of wire and terminator leg parts.

I’ll let you know the verdict tomorrow and how I got on at the tournament.

Good luck getting into the tournament.

My favorite Tutelarie is the Raptora. I feel the pose and the colors and the base model just all fit together and it worked really well.

I'm loving the corvidae tutelary. Good work

Tutelaries look great! The pavoni has to be my favorite

I reckon you will be safe with the termies. Had you used 3rd party bits on everyone I would be less sure but 5 guys? Nah, even if they actually notice the fact I am sure you can sweet talk yourself into the event!

Frankly it is disgusting that we even need to have this conversation. Since when did GW become so strict? Sure I would not want a whole army composed of all 3rd party stuff but a few pads? Gah, makes me glad I don't actually play the game!

Edit for spelling!

MY OWN JUDGEMENT OF NIKAEA; THE CONCLUSION!
5 minutes! 5 minutes between starting my first game and being asked by GW officials if I had any alternative models and told to remove them, in the end they gave me 10 random uncoated terminators I had to proxy as my terminator squads. I was hoping to use them at least one small tournament.
Despite that I had 3 good games; I got revenge against space wolves in the 1st round, a very close game against guard in the 2nd and 3rd was an interesting game against Grey Knights.
However the issue with the terminators came back to plague me as I suspect I was given a painting score of 0 as despite 3 straight victories, Someone else won the tournament with a fully painted Ork army with 2 victories and 1 loss. But at the end of the day it’s a friendly tournament so I wasn’t too fussed as I enjoyed all 3 games, this just left a small shadow on an otherwise perfect day.



UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL
So if I ever want to completely play at Warhammer World with this army I’m clearly going to need to replace my terminators, which I can do with my upcoming Spire Guard and Cybernetica allied units.

At the next 1000pt tournament (likely in Oct) I’ll simply replace the 470pt terminators with a Coteaz and a detachment of Spire Guard henchmen squads. As for Throne Of Skulls itself if I’m unable to find something to replace all 10 terminators I will likely use a squad of Cataphact robots which instead of Paladins will act as stand in terminators.

Will see how it goes.

At least I’ll be able to unleash my full army this Saturday at Maelstrom Games.

That was seriously uncool of GW. Your models were largely made of GW product, and they have showcased models with alternative parts. And if that weren't enough giving you a zero for painting because THEY made you remove a squad you sank countless hours into?

I look forward to seeing the Spireguard, because I know they'll be up to the same exemplary standard as the rest of your army, but the nerve of Warhammer World's staff in this matter makes me sick.

I think the problem with the mandrake model is that he is still in his "standing position" thus with his knee being up it looks like you have just raised him above the ground. For it to work i think he needs to have the robes tapering back down towards the ground so he looks a little more ghost like. Either that or you just leave him on the ground and let the blue colour explain him.

AT LAST OPEN WAR!
I took the Thousand Sons to Open War this weekend and they were well received by players and did surprising well given their lacking numbers and mobility. The night before the tournament I completed a little detail I’d be working on that week.



I’ll say this; lighter colours are hard to blend, so I used the space wolf paint tutorial from a previous white dwarf and painted his armour using painted highlights instead and I made sure the pre-heresy armour was accurate.



FULL ARMY PICTURES!
Everyone’s been asking for a full army photographs and luckily there was someone at Open War with a quality camera that took several photos of them, so here they are provided by Andrew Moore…















ANYONE HAVE ANY AUTOCANNONS?
I need some sentinel Autocannons for my upcoming Legio Cybernetica dreads and I can remember someone from the US saying they had some to spare. Sadly I can’t remember who it was who offered so can you please PM me if you are that person or have some Autocannons to spare?

WWhat codex wee you using with these guys?

THE 6TH FELLOWSHIP ARE INBOUND!
With the main Thousand Sons force complete it’s time to expand and begin work on their allies first up is the Legio Cybernetica robots employed by the Legion’s 6th Fellowship and Pyrae temple. When the robots were described in the book strangely the way I pictured them was the old space crusade dreads so what better model to convert my basic dreadnoughts than a pair I got for cheap of eBay.



The plan is to replace the cylinders with two pairs of sentinel Autocannons and mount the ammo drum on the side, I had to replace the feet for purposes of basing so I’ll be adding some armour plates above the feet to cover the blank area where they slotted into the original feet and base. Again anyone have any spare autocannons please PM me.

For the smaller robots that will act as my Paladins or replace the terminators at GW events, I’ll be using a conversion from a previous army project but with imperial weaponry. I thought it best to try and increase their height using a part from a Necron destroyer but I’m worried it may look a bit thin round the waist? I’d likely be creating another mask design for these guys and it allows more posing options instead of having them all looking forward.



Here are my ideas regarding the weapons…
Storm Bolters; I’ll convert those the same way I did the gauss weapons only with GK storm bolters.
Psycannons; 1 large cannon like weapon.
Hammer; Powerfists
Sword; I was thinking converting a blade & shield gauntlet like ones from the golden army from Hellboy 2.
Halberd; creating an air powered ram like the librarian dreads from the GKT special weapon arm might work.


The robot conversion from my old renegade machine cult army.

In the book they are described as coloured in blue and gold, at first I was tempted to paint them the same metallic metal as my former machine cult robots but metallics are very flat unless you have at least 3 different shades to paint with. So I plan to paint them up in the same blue as the chaos thousands sons in a horrific parody of what most of the legion would later become.

Anyway I'm eager to hear any feedback regarding these conversion concepts, especially the dread?

I don't understand why you don't just use a bunch of GK tabards and other GW bits to keep your current Thousand Sons Termis. They are great models and are wonderfully painted.

The new dread, however, is great and I love it.

Joshh wrote:I don't understand why you don't just use a bunch of GK tabards and other GW bits to keep your current Thousand Sons Termis. They are great models and are wonderfully painted.

You misunderstand, I had already planned to build these robots to represent paladins in my 1k sons/cybernetica list and because they have the exact wargear I can easily use them as alternative models. I don't have the cash to afford to build an alternative unit nor do I plan to change my army just for GW's sake!

Proiteus wrote:

Joshh wrote:I don't understand why you don't just use a bunch of GK tabards and other GW bits to keep your current Thousand Sons Termis. They are great models and are wonderfully painted.

You misunderstand, I had already planned to build these robots to represent paladins in my 1k sons/cybernetica list and because they have the exact wargear I can easily use them as alternative models. I don't have the cash to afford to build an alternative unit nor do I plan to change my army just for GW's sake!

I'm terribly sorry if I offended you. I feel that I came off as kind of an donkey-cave in the quoted comment. I really do like the current terminators though and it's a shame you won't be able to play with them at GW tournaments.

EDIT: Word filters here are silly. Donkey-cave? Really?

KHALOPHIS’ HEAVY HITTERS
I decided to give up on trying to find 8 sentinel Autocannons and used the ones from the heavy weapon team instead, only this time I didn’t shorten the barrels as I wanted to make the robot look designed for long range support. I then used Ravenwing assault cannon parts to attach them to the main body. Other details include the armoured plates from the Furioso dread to cover the blank parts on the legs and grey knight apothecary bits for the scanner and searchlight.



I’ve played a lot of RTS games and the concept was based off the usual cumbersome heavy walkers so I’m pleased in how it’s come out. Now I’m just worried about painting it, the problem being that some of the old dread’s details are very faint so I‘ll only really have one shot. I just wish I had one used or unwanted crusade dread to try out shades on first!

They look perfect, i am not less then super impressed with the overall look of this army!

Has anyone at a GW store actually given you trouble over your terminators?

THE CATAPHRACTS OF THE 7TH
I’ve always loved robots and whilst my previous attempt to create an army of them failed I couldn’t help but want to include a unit of Khalophis’ Cataphract robots from the novel in my army.



I guess I’ll start with the main body; the first thing I did was add a joint between the epic knight titan torso and Stealthsuit legs to increase it’s height using a part of a Necron destroyer’s spine. I reused the head design from my old project using a Cadian helmet and pulse rifle tip as it adds more posing options and makes it look even less human.
The Storm bolter is the from the grey knight terminators, the original plan was to place a chapterhouse combi weapon underneath but I instead went with a grenade launcher, I also added the smaller Necron spine bit to allow me the option to rotate the weapon.
I refused to have the robot holding anything as it should be built in so I converted the sword from a lightning claw based off the golden soldier’s blades from Hellboy 2. I did cut a triangle shape from plasticard but then lost it, luckily I found a much better solution by sticking together a pair of Falchions. Lastly I added the shield to look a power generator for the weapon and a defensive shield for parrying.
One final addition to the model was the 2nd weapon as most robots I’ve seen in the art books have a shoulder mounted weapon so I added one just for show, I’m also thinking of making a few with the weapon on standby (bottom right of the image).

The model will be painted using regal blue and gold as stated in the novel like the current (traitor) thousand sons.

OLD HOBBIES DIE HARD!
Whilst I said this would be my last army I’m tempted to expand the 10 Cataphract robots and 2 dreads into a full automaton force of their own after the spire guard are completed! I’m thinking of using a Space Wolf Loganwing list mainly due to the fact the robots can have their shoulder mounted represent their 2nd combi weapon and have acute senses. I’d probably convert Captain Khalophis from Marcus Calgar to represent logan. I might even include some thousand sons squads for objective grabbers or devastator support but the focus will be on the bots.

So what do you think to the robot and the idea of a army of them after the spire guard are completed?

Great to see you back at work, Proiteus! A robot army would be interesting.

COMMANDER OF THE PYRAE!
Since Mini Magnus didn’t turn out as well as I had hoped he’ll now represent Draigo. So for my grand master I’ll instead field this converted Pyrae Force Commander , I love those pyrokinetics so of course he’d have a flaming sword to count as both his nemesis weapon and incinerator for when he swings it in a wide arc at the enemy.

If the flaming sword weren’t enough of a challenge I’m going to try and paint the robes white with perhaps either red flames on the bottom or gold symbols round the edges? Anyway it will have to wait till after the robots are painted.
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Where did you get the Shoulder pads?

Oh Proiteus... is there anything you can't do with Epic knights and Stealthsuit legs?

Flinty wrote:Oh Proiteus... is there anything you can't do with Epic knights and Stealthsuit legs?

Make a full army of them as buying that many epic knights off ebay will empty your bank account!

Luckily I have 12 kicking about from my previous machine cult army so I'll likely be able to manage 2 maybe 3 squads of bots.