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I'm not an expert, this is just a terrible fake.

Aha, so back to what everyone else in the thread has been saying.

Your opinion is that it is a fake.

Coulda just said that in the first place rather than being all mysterious and trying to state it as fact.

Kanluwen wrote:

Melissia wrote:

motorhead1945 wrote:please... immolators and repressors ONLY

What? Feth that. I want more tanks-- tanks unique to Sisters.

Only when my Dark Angels get the Damocles Rhino.

Don't they have access to that via forgeworld rules?

Just be glad Marines even HAVE forgeworld items. All we have is the repressor.

sure, but people that know who I am read this forum, and they will know what I'm talking about. Everybody else..sure...it's an opinion...I know nothing...just making assumptions.

scuddman wrote:sure, but people that know who I am read this forum, and they will know what I'm talking about. Everybody else..sure...it's an opinion...I know nothing...just making assumptions.

See, now you're back to being all mysterious and making us think you know more than you do. You're incorrigible.

So your mother reads this forum?

Jokes aside, seriously dude, don't try to act mysterious, it's just gonna make us mock you, hehe.


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The good news is that Matt Ward isn't working on the Sisters codex, so it might not suck.

Melissia wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Melissia wrote:

motorhead1945 wrote:please... immolators and repressors ONLY

What? Feth that. I want more tanks-- tanks unique to Sisters.

Only when my Dark Angels get the Damocles Rhino.

Don't they have access to that via forgeworld rules?

Just be glad Marines even HAVE forgeworld items. All we have is the repressor.

And you shouldn't even have that. Everyone knows it's an Arbites creation, you dirty thieves!

But seriously. Of course Sisters don't have too many things exclusively for themselves.
Because they had access to the entirety of the arsenal from Imperial Armour Volume Two, specifically the Inquisitorial side. They also have the option to buy Aquila Landers(Imperial Armour 3: Cannoness and bodyguard can buy one, as they're noted as 'Imperial Characters') which Space Marines are explicitly prohibited from obtaining.

But yes. They, along with every single other Space Marine army have access to the Damocles Rhino through IA2. Would be nice to be able to actually obtain Orbital Bombardments for my DA without having to get someone to let me to use FW rules though.

Kanluwen wrote:Because they had access to the entirety of the arsenal from Imperial Armour Volume Two, specifically the Inquisitorial side.

Which would make it an Inquisitorial army, not a Sisters army, so that kinda defeats the point. Space Marines can also have Inquisitors, so really Dark Angels could also have them.

Meh?

Hey.

You guys know that that "Leaked" codex is from the second edition codex, don't you? Thats a bunch of B.S. if ive ever saw it.


Blame it on P.T.Barnum I guess, but go look at your old school stuff, you'll see what I'm talking about. Jackass didn't even cut and paste it properly, they just spouted off a bunch of garbage.

Once again, Leaked in this case means, someone posted a couple of one off shots from the old codex and spouted it off as gosple.

Burn the heratic, Purge the unclean.

scuddman wrote:sure, but people that know who I am read this forum, and they will know what I'm talking about. Everybody else..sure...it's an opinion...I know nothing...just making assumptions.

Your reputation precedes you, then.

Whoever the hell you are.

Grot 6 wrote:Hey.

You guys know that that "Leaked" codex is from the second edition codex, don't you? Thats a bunch of B.S. if ive ever saw it.

Umm, have you ever looked at the second ed codex? Because it doesn't look anything like that.

Grot 6 wrote:You guys know that that "Leaked" codex is from the second edition codex, don't you?

2nd edition profiles had a Movement stat. And the 2nd edition Sisters book didn't include Arbites or Redemptionists.

Melissia wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Because they had access to the entirety of the arsenal from Imperial Armour Volume Two, specifically the Inquisitorial side.

Which would make it an Inquisitorial army, not a Sisters army, so that kinda defeats the point. Space Marines can also have Inquisitors, so really Dark Angels could also have them.

No self-respecting Dark Angels player would ever field Inquisitors alongside their forces! How dare you insult me so!

But no. My point was that if you really want to compare notes, there's only one "Dark Angels only" piece--the Mortis Dreadnought--in the entirety of IA2.

Guess which army doesn't get to field it without IA2?

Now, take a wild guess which army has it as a standard Codex option...
The answer might surprise you!

Meh?

Meh INDEED.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:Personally I hope we see no Inquisitorial units in the SoB book, instead focusing on Ecclesiarchal units.

Why must the two be mutually exclusive?

More from a balance point of view. Having Hereticus units in both the GK and SoB codexes means that if power creep happens, we might experience the Storm Shield effect again. Plus it also means more room for Ecclesiarchal units, which I've always liked more than Hereticus.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:More from a balance point of view. Having Hereticus units in both the GK and SoB codexes means that if power creep happens, we might experience the Storm Shield effect again. Plus it also means more room for Ecclesiarchal units, which I've always liked more than Hereticus.

The second part is a well-established fear of all sorts of folks that generally isn't well-founded, but whatever. The first part, I completely don't understand though... Try that sentence again but different?

Okay, imagine if Grey Knights don't get updated for another three editions, but Sisters get updated next edition, and the inquisitorial units in the Sisters book are have cheaper, better equipment more suited to the new editions.

For example, the difference between the old storm shield and the new one.

pretre wrote:

Grot 6 wrote:Hey.

You guys know that that "Leaked" codex is from the second edition codex, don't you? Thats a bunch of B.S. if ive ever saw it.

Umm, have you ever looked at the second ed codex? Because it doesn't look anything like that.

Umm, I'm looking at one right now. cut and paste does a heck of a number when your putting one over on the interwebs.

This "Codex" is a Fiji Mermaid.

As for the movement, thanks Mr Obvious.

cut off a head, sew it on a body, attach a fishtail, and...

You have a brand spankin new SOB POS.

Grot 6 wrote:
Umm, I'm looking at one right now. cut and paste does a heck of a number when your putting one over on the interwebs.

This "Codex" is a Fiji Mermaid.

Yeah, no. Unless you're looking at completely different pdf shots, those weren't cobbled together from the Sisters 2nd ed dex.


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Melissia wrote:Okay, imagine if Grey Knights don't get updated for another three editions, but Sisters get updated next edition, and the inquisitorial units in the Sisters book are have cheaper, better equipment more suited to the new editions.

For example, the difference between the old storm shield and the new one.

And how is having a Hereticus inquisitor in there going to cause that problem? We will have the same problem no matter what independent of what units are in the new book.

I know what codex creep and wargear mismatch are, I just don't understand the contention that having more units in your book are going to make that worse.

Sisters, if they get a Valkyrie, should get a variant with Exorcist Launchers (with a more reliable rate of fire) for an actual gunship.

Skarboy wrote:Sisters, if they get a Valkyrie, should get a variant with Exorcist Launchers (with a more reliable rate of fire) for an actual gunship.

Skarboy, much love. You know what though? We can keep the randomness if I get one launcher under each wing.

And people hate Vendettas?

I would get thrown out bodily of a tournament with a 3xExorcist and 3xExodetta army. 6-36 S8 AP1 shots a turn? Don't mind if I do.

pretre wrote:I know what codex creep and wargear mismatch are, I just don't understand the contention that having more units in your book are going to make that worse.

Because the units don't fit the theme, are unnecessary, and are already in a different codex.

Your opinion on the Hereticus in your idea of a SoB codex are well and voluminously documented, M, but were not what I was looking for when I asked a specific question of Mecha.

Having Hereticus units in both the GK and SoB codexes means that if power creep happens, we might experience the Storm Shield effect again.

As I indicated the first time, I wanted to know what Mecha meant by the above sentence which does not appear to make sense to me as it contains things that don't really have an impact on each other.

For example, priests appear in C:WH and C:IG. Did having Hereticus in C:WH make the problem of 2 different statlines for Priests? Will that problem still exist when the new SOB book gets priests and IG still have them whether there are hereticus in there or not?

Manchu wrote:This is wise advice.

Every time I see a mod using the Red Rage, I always imagine it in some deep dark voice from a kid's TV show....

Anyway, back OT.

Balance wrote:I thought the underlining in the upper left looked suspiciously straight, as if it was added in an image editor...

Definitely agreeing with you there. There is no one in the world who can draw a line that straight. Then again, maybe a ruler...

pretre wrote:But think about Valkyries with Laud Hailers swooping over the battlefield and firing rockets as sisters disembark to heavenly music.

Ooh, what about a new Valk variant for Sisters?

Maybe give it hellhound style flamers?

This^. This brings an awesome picture to my head. If SoB got this, I'd drop any army I was doing and go for a build like this.

scuddman wrote:

pretre wrote:

scuddman wrote:That pdf is fake. Those images are fake.

Citation needed.

We all think that, but we kind of need proof one way or the other.

Negatory. If I said what I knew, it would lead to better fakes, and I don't want that.
It's just like network engineering. I never say how I know stuff, because then the next time the guy hacking knows to cover that.

iproxtaco wrote:What is it with all the hate on Matt Ward? Did he really screw stuff up that badly?

I noticed that question on the second page and I'm not sure if it has been answered yet but refer to this thread as to why...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/357650.page

Does anyone else think they should go back to chapter approved and release updates for each army like back in the day? Cure the arguements about certain things forever, update points cost for the current editions, and then the release of new units and updates from the book that are GW approved? More people would buy these books, than a select audience IMO. I bought the book, but never made any of the armies. The "cursed" marines, the Kroot Mercenaries, Feral Orks, they were all so cool and could give them all these crazy things.....the moded armies are all gone now