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2012/01/15 06:44:18
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
Inside Yvraine
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I played Soul Storm.
It's been a long time since I've played it, but I don't remember any of the characters standing around, and then they blinked and in the time it took for that to happen, a massive warp storm was ripping their ship to shreds.
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2012/01/15 06:45:48
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Wing Commander
Firehawk 1st Armored Regimental Headquarters
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BlaxicanX wrote:I played Soul Storm.
It's been a long time since I've played it, but I don't remember any of the characters standing around, and then they blinked and in the time it took for that to happen, a massive warp storm was ripping their ship to shreds.
The entire basis of the game is that a Warp storm randomly and quickly opened up above the sector, making it impossible to use warp travel. So all these armies were stuck on planets with only the webway to use.
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"The Imperium is nothing if not willing to go to any lengths necessary. So the Trekkies are zipping around at warp speed taking small chucks out of an nigh-on infinite amount of ships, with the Imperium being unable to strike back. feth it, says central command, and detonates every vortex warhead in the fleet, plunging the entire sector into the Warp. Enjoy tentacle-rape, Kirk, we know Sulu will." -Terminus
"This great fortress was a gift to the Blood Ravens from the legendary Imperial Fists. When asked about it Chapter Master Pugh was reported to say: "THEY TOOK WHAT!?""  |
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2012/01/15 06:48:11
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Blax, look at the 13th Black Crusade. Erebus and other Dark Apostles and Chaos Sorcerers sacrificed Imperial citizens so Chaos would flood the sector in mighty warp storms. The supply lines to Cadia are stretched thin because of this. And the fluff on the Fall of the Eldar states specifically that where the Eye of Terror is now, was once the heart of the Eldar Empire, and that at it's height, the Eldar ruled an Empire whose influence surpasses that of the Imperium at it's height. If you want a technology vs. technology battle, allow me to introduce you to the Necrons. I'm sure they'll be pleased to accomodate you.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/15 06:50:26
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Wing Commander
Firehawk 1st Armored Regimental Headquarters
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Tadashi wrote:Blax, look at the 13th Black Crusade. Erebus and other Dark Apostles and Chaos Sorcerers sacrificed Imperial citizens so Chaos would flood the sector in mighty warp storms. The supply lines to Cadia are stretched thin because of this. And the fluff on the Fall of the Eldar states specifically that where the Eye of Terror is now, was once the heart of the Eldar Empire, and that at it's height, the Eldar ruled an Empire whose influence surpasses that of the Imperium at it's height. If you want a technology vs. technology battle, allow me to introduce you to the Necrons. I'm sure they'll be pleased to accomodate you.
Would please me greatly to see Jedi and Sith try to block Guass blasts! 
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"The Imperium is nothing if not willing to go to any lengths necessary. So the Trekkies are zipping around at warp speed taking small chucks out of an nigh-on infinite amount of ships, with the Imperium being unable to strike back. feth it, says central command, and detonates every vortex warhead in the fleet, plunging the entire sector into the Warp. Enjoy tentacle-rape, Kirk, we know Sulu will." -Terminus
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2012/01/15 06:50:32
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
Inside Yvraine
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Alexzandvar wrote:BlaxicanX wrote:I played Soul Storm.
It's been a long time since I've played it, but I don't remember any of the characters standing around, and then they blinked and in the time it took for that to happen, a massive warp storm was ripping their ship to shreds.
The entire basis of the game is that a Warp storm randomly and quickly opened up above the sector, making it impossible to use warp travel. So all these armies were stuck on planets with only the webway to use.
Sure, but again, that's not proof that its "instantaneous". 40K ships can be trapped in Warp Storms because they use the warp itself to travel. So even if a warp storm hasn't officially "appeared" yet, the maelstrom it creates in the warp just by brewing makes it impossible for warp traveling ships to go anywhere. So even if they have a warning an hour or a day in advance, you're screwed if you need to warp for FTL travel. Imperial Ships don't use the warp, though. They make hyperspace jumps, which only take a few seconds to initiate.
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2012/01/15 06:53:43
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Even so, Blax, their lack of warp technology will prevent them from detecting a warp storm and escaping until it's too late.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/15 06:56:26
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Wing Commander
Firehawk 1st Armored Regimental Headquarters
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Tadashi wrote:Even so, Blax, their lack of warp technology will prevent them from detecting a warp storm and escaping until it's too late.
Not to mention they can't Jam the Imperiums Warp engines, making it easy for the Imperium to escape from losing battles.
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"The Imperium is nothing if not willing to go to any lengths necessary. So the Trekkies are zipping around at warp speed taking small chucks out of an nigh-on infinite amount of ships, with the Imperium being unable to strike back. feth it, says central command, and detonates every vortex warhead in the fleet, plunging the entire sector into the Warp. Enjoy tentacle-rape, Kirk, we know Sulu will." -Terminus
"This great fortress was a gift to the Blood Ravens from the legendary Imperial Fists. When asked about it Chapter Master Pugh was reported to say: "THEY TOOK WHAT!?"" |
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2012/01/15 07:00:28
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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If they follow, they can enjoy eternity in the Circles of Slaanesh:
"Hello, sir. Which Circle shall I book you in for eternity?"
- Daemonnette
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/15 07:03:00
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Wing Commander
Firehawk 1st Armored Regimental Headquarters
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Tadashi wrote:If they follow, they can enjoy eternity in the Circles of Slaanesh:
"Hello, sir. Which Circle shall I book you in for eternity?"
- Daemonnette
Tzeetch would probably teach the Emperor of the Empire a thing or to about planning and corruption....
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"The Imperium is nothing if not willing to go to any lengths necessary. So the Trekkies are zipping around at warp speed taking small chucks out of an nigh-on infinite amount of ships, with the Imperium being unable to strike back. feth it, says central command, and detonates every vortex warhead in the fleet, plunging the entire sector into the Warp. Enjoy tentacle-rape, Kirk, we know Sulu will." -Terminus
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2012/01/15 07:05:19
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Nurgle could show him a way to fix that face, ugh...although, it's not really gonna be an improvement.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/15 07:07:24
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Wing Commander
Firehawk 1st Armored Regimental Headquarters
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Tadashi wrote:Nurgle could show him a way to fix that face, ugh...although, it's not really gonna be an improvement.
I like how these threads always seem to turn into just you and me talking about how awesome the Imperium is, and Warhammer 40k is in general.
It's good though, The Imperium is Supreme after all........ 
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"The Imperium is nothing if not willing to go to any lengths necessary. So the Trekkies are zipping around at warp speed taking small chucks out of an nigh-on infinite amount of ships, with the Imperium being unable to strike back. feth it, says central command, and detonates every vortex warhead in the fleet, plunging the entire sector into the Warp. Enjoy tentacle-rape, Kirk, we know Sulu will." -Terminus
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2012/01/15 07:31:09
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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40k's the best dark science fantasy IMO, that's why.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/15 07:36:06
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
The Mojave desert
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For the record, I'd love to see a Vong vs Necrons fight.
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2012/01/15 07:38:22
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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That would be something to see...
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/15 07:43:08
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
The Mojave desert
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Think of the weapons they each would be throwing at each other, the destruction would be immense.
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2012/01/15 07:53:51
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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World ships versus World Engines...just the space battle would be titanic, to say the least.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/15 09:26:02
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Actually the thread ha balways been about clone war era star wars vs Iom.
Okay answer to the death star... Hummm, got it, any space fighter. So death star neutralized. Or you can use sanctioned psykers to explode the heads of the crew.
Galaxy gun is tougher. But psykers can divine the future. See the gun before it shoots. Strike force nrutralisres it.
For all the superweapons out there, they get blown up alot.
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2012/01/15 12:48:08
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Man O' War
Nosey, ain't ya?
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Notice they have yet to respond to this
And now those fleets grow into the hundereds of millions of CAPITAL ships.
So by the above points, the Imperial Fleet alone will number in the hundered of millions. Counting the rest of 40k it would number in the hundereds of TRILLIONS (Tyranids, numbnuts). I'd like to see your Star Wars fleet prevail against them then you are gravely mistaken.
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2012/01/15 13:25:37
Subject: Re:A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Let's try and re-focus on military vs. military, no more gods vs. gods, although we can still debate Force powers vs. psychic powers.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/15 16:07:16
Subject: Re:A matter of Sanity.
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Wing Commander
Firehawk 1st Armored Regimental Headquarters
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Tadashi wrote:Let's try and re-focus on military vs. military, no more gods vs. gods, although we can still debate Force powers vs. psychic powers.
I'm going to just go ahead and say we win this one because as The Crusade above pointed out, the Empire, or the Galactic Republic would never be able to counter the massive amount of ships the Imperium would throw at them.
Not to mention.....
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"The Imperium is nothing if not willing to go to any lengths necessary. So the Trekkies are zipping around at warp speed taking small chucks out of an nigh-on infinite amount of ships, with the Imperium being unable to strike back. feth it, says central command, and detonates every vortex warhead in the fleet, plunging the entire sector into the Warp. Enjoy tentacle-rape, Kirk, we know Sulu will." -Terminus
"This great fortress was a gift to the Blood Ravens from the legendary Imperial Fists. When asked about it Chapter Master Pugh was reported to say: "THEY TOOK WHAT!?"" |
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2012/01/15 21:56:38
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
Inside Yvraine
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Tadashi wrote:Even so, Blax, their lack of warp technology will prevent them from detecting a warp storm and escaping until it's too late.
Would be true except for the fact that warp storms are physical as well as warpstuff. Beyond shifting the warp, they also physically adjust the area around it, itself, as can be seen at 1:30 in this video.
So even though the Imperials wouldn't be able to detect the warp presence of the storm, their censors would easily pick up on the physical aspects of the storm. Again, takes only a few seconds to make a hyperspace jump.
Alexzandvar wrote:Tadashi wrote:Even so, Blax, their lack of warp technology will prevent them from detecting a warp storm and escaping until it's too late.
Not to mention they can't Jam the Imperiums Warp engines, making it easy for the Imperium to escape from losing battles.
Actually they can.
Taken from chapter 10 of Flight of the Eisenstein:
The hololith showed a basic representation of the Isstvan system, distorted to present the close orbital space around the third planet in greater detail. Carya pointed to a stylized cross drifting high up over the star system’s ecliptic plane. ‘Vought has computed a minimum distance vector for us, using the ship’s cogitator chorus. If we can reach this point, we will be beyond the c-limit and free to make a warp translation.’
‘Naval terminology was never my strong point,’ grumbled Qruze. ‘Indulge an old war dog and explain it to me in terms a soldier might grasp.’
‘We can’t go to the warp while we’re still inside the gravity shadow of the sun,’ said Sendek briskly, indicating the Isstvan star. ‘That is the threshold the shipmaster speaks of.’
Carya nodded, a little surprised to find a line Astartes with a basic grasp of astrogation. ‘Indeed, the footprint of the solar energy interferes with the warp transition. We must go beyond it and reach the jump point in order to enter the immaterium with any degree of safety.’
‘It’s a long distance,’ mused Garro. ‘We’ll have to travel several light-seconds at maximum burn to get there, and with the drives at full, it will light a torch to show Horus where we’re heading.’
Emphasis mine. Point being, excessive gravity prevents Imperium ships from making warp jumps. Funny, that, considering that the Empire has a fleet of ships designed to do just that. So no, they wouldn't be able to run from any engagements they're in danger of losing from.
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2012/01/15 22:02:36
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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BlaxicanX wrote:Tadashi wrote:Even so, Blax, their lack of warp technology will prevent them from detecting a warp storm and escaping until it's too late.
Would be true except for the fact that warp storms are physical as well as warpstuff. Beyond shifting the warp, they also physically adjust the area around it, itself, as can be seen at 1:30 in this video.
So even though the Imperials wouldn't be able to detect the warp presence of the storm, their censors would easily pick up on the physical aspects of the storm. Again, takes only a few seconds to make a hyperspace jump.
Alexzandvar wrote:Tadashi wrote:Even so, Blax, their lack of warp technology will prevent them from detecting a warp storm and escaping until it's too late.
Not to mention they can't Jam the Imperiums Warp engines, making it easy for the Imperium to escape from losing battles.
Actually they can.
Taken from chapter 10 of Flight of the Eisenstein:
The hololith showed a basic representation of the Isstvan system, distorted to present the close orbital space around the third planet in greater detail. Carya pointed to a stylized cross drifting high up over the star system’s ecliptic plane. ‘Vought has computed a minimum distance vector for us, using the ship’s cogitator chorus. If we can reach this point, we will be beyond the c-limit and free to make a warp translation.’
‘Naval terminology was never my strong point,’ grumbled Qruze. ‘Indulge an old war dog and explain it to me in terms a soldier might grasp.’
‘We can’t go to the warp while we’re still inside the gravity shadow of the sun,’ said Sendek briskly, indicating the Isstvan star. ‘That is the threshold the shipmaster speaks of.’
Carya nodded, a little surprised to find a line Astartes with a basic grasp of astrogation. ‘Indeed, the footprint of the solar energy interferes with the warp transition. We must go beyond it and reach the jump point in order to enter the immaterium with any degree of safety.’
‘It’s a long distance,’ mused Garro. ‘We’ll have to travel several light-seconds at maximum burn to get there, and with the drives at full, it will light a torch to show Horus where we’re heading.’
Emphasis mine. Point being, excessive gravity prevents Imperium ships from making warp jumps. Funny, that, considering that the Empire has a fleet of ships designed to do just that. So no, they wouldn't be able to run from any engagements they're in danger of losing from.
Men prepare the nova cannon http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nova_cannon#.TxNLpYHF_To
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2012/01/15 22:05:36
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Unless it's range is "from one side of the galaxy to the other", that cannon is out of its depth. lol
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2012/01/15 22:06:36
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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But you know what would been to watch?
Assault terminators teleporting to the imperial ships and cut it's crew in peaces. Since they are teleporting trough Warp ( another dimension ) shields would be useless against them.
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 For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!! 
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
 "Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
 in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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2012/01/15 22:14:38
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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BlaxicanX wrote:Unless it's range is "from one side of the galaxy to the other", that cannon is out of its depth. lol
The humble lasgun has a range of infinity. Not to mention that in space any kinetic projectile will keep moving forever except in the unlikely event it encounters gravity.
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Coolyo294 wrote: You are a strange, strange little manchicken.
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2012/01/15 22:17:32
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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BlaxicanX wrote:
Taken from chapter 10 of Flight of the Eisenstein:
The hololith showed a basic representation of the Isstvan system, distorted to present the close orbital space around the third planet in greater detail. Carya pointed to a stylized cross drifting high up over the star system’s ecliptic plane. ‘Vought has computed a minimum distance vector for us, using the ship’s cogitator chorus. If we can reach this point, we will be beyond the c-limit and free to make a warp translation.’
‘Naval terminology was never my strong point,’ grumbled Qruze. ‘Indulge an old war dog and explain it to me in terms a soldier might grasp.’
‘We can’t go to the warp while we’re still inside the gravity shadow of the sun,’ said Sendek briskly, indicating the Isstvan star. ‘That is the threshold the shipmaster speaks of.’
Carya nodded, a little surprised to find a line Astartes with a basic grasp of astrogation. ‘Indeed, the footprint of the solar energy interferes with the warp transition. We must go beyond it and reach the jump point in order to enter the immaterium with any degree of safety.’
‘It’s a long distance,’ mused Garro. ‘We’ll have to travel several light-seconds at maximum burn to get there, and with the drives at full, it will light a torch to show Horus where we’re heading.’
Emphasis mine. Point being, excessive gravity prevents Imperium ships from making warp jumps. Funny, that, considering that the Empire has a fleet of ships designed to do just that. So no, they wouldn't be able to run from any engagements they're in danger of losing from.
Emphasis mine, now. lol. Several light seconds? Each light second is around 300,000 kilometres. In other words, each light second is about a 42 day trip, at full speed, for a SW fighter. More for a Capital ship.
Losing engagement? How are they going to lose any engagement where they so dramatically outclass their opponents in terms of speed and maneuverability?
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"Did you ever notice how in the Bible, when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel? Did you ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? A whole existence spent praising your God, but always with one wing dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?" |
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2012/01/15 22:51:22
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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BlaxicanX wrote:Unless it's range is "from one side of the galaxy to the other", that cannon is out of its depth. lol
umm its several hundred thousand kilometres, it is equiped almost every single cruiser.... then these guys... http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ordinatus#.TxNVCoHF_To then these guys http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Skitarii#.TxNN5IHF_To then these lovelys... http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Starhawk#.TxNVRIHF_To http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fury_Interceptor#.TxNVRoHF_To http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Shark_Assault_Boat#.TxNVR4HF_To Which are sent out in their hundreds of thousands out of battleships and carriers and ironclads... then these guys as well  the fighters. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Aircraft#.TxNVSYHF_To Then the frigates... http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sword_Class_Frigate#.TxNVyYHF_To http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Firestorm_Class_Frigate#.TxNVyoHF_To http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tempest_Frigate#.TxNVy4HF_To http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cobra_Class_Destroyer#.TxNVzYHF_To http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Falchion_Class_Escort#.TxNV0YHF_To http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Claymore_Class_Corvette#.TxNV04HF_To Then the Battleships.. Which are the mainstay of the fleet... http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Apocalypse_Class_Battleship#.TxNWIYHF_To http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Emperor_Class_Battleship#.TxNWIoHF_To http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Retribution_Class_Battleship#.TxNWJYHF_To http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Oberon_Class_Battleship#.TxNWJIHF_To Then Grand Cruisers which are still in use.  http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Avenger_Grand_Cruiser#.TxNWUYHF_To http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Exorcist_Grand_Cruiser#.TxNWU4HF_To http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Vengeance_Grand_Cruiser#.TxNWVoHF_To All of these ships are probably the things that the empire will die from in a millisecond in space fight or a ground fight. The Imperium teleports past the Shields as they are known for doing and getting aboard. BTW has anyone mentioned that? The Starwars universe does not have teleporting technology! The Imperium does! With their terminator squads and inqusitiors and grey knights. They will just teleport to the bridge and destroy the entire bridge. Sorry but one fleet of Imperial Navy is usually tagged along with Astarts. Espeically a Crusade. And its the entire imperium mate. That means you get to face all the big lovelys. by the way every ship mentioned has railguns to quote Weapons Batteries is a catch-all name for the majority of weapons present on star ships. Most vessels (especially Imperial and Ork ones) are pock-marked with gun ports and weapons housings. Within each one is a range of weaponry including plasma projectors, laser cannons, missile launchers, rail guns, fusion beamers and graviton pulsars. Batteries tend to be fired in one concentrated blast or following a pattern determined by the captain for maximum effect.1
Don't even get me started on the Battle cruisers!
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From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war. |
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2012/01/15 23:42:18
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ferocious Blood Claw
Kailua, HI
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Lol i love how blax ignored the last bits about terminators teleporting on to the ship and killing everyone and taking it over then making new ones out of it. IOM could possibly even capture one of the engineers and have psychers get him to make star destroyers for them. Lol that really does make it a relatively easy win because then eldar figure out where such a man is termies teleport in kill everyone but the engie and then psychers do their magic. Not to mention the part where no one knows how to rebuild these weapons as stated earlier so neither side would have access to them once theyve been destroyed.
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2012/01/16 02:21:08
Subject: Re:A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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As so many people have noted, 40k naval weapons out-range that of SW. Once our Librarians/Psykers figure out your Galaxy Gun's location we'll warp in and disable it with lances. It may take a few seconds to enter hyperspace, but it takes a while to calculate a jump. While your doing that, we can disable your engines with our lances and initiate boarding actions. Thanks for the new toy!
To sum it up:
1) Space Marines
- as shock troops and attack spearheads, they are peerless
- can take on Jedi/Sith with no problems
- you'll just encourage them since xenos will just provoke them
2) Imperial Guard
- lots and lots of tanks
- how many Imperial Guardsmen are there?
- superior training and experience
- has dealt with worse enemies (all Imperials have)
3) Imperial Navy
- our weapons out-range and out-class yours
- self-destruct function is perfect for kamikaze charge
4) Titan Legions
- must you even ask?
It will be glorious!
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/01/16 02:32:10
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
Inside Yvraine
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Kaldor wrote:Emphasis mine, now. lol. Several light seconds? Each light second is around 300,000 kilometres. In other words, each light second is about a 42 day trip, at full speed, for a SW fighter. More for a Capital ship.
Losing engagement? How are they going to lose any engagement where they so dramatically outclass their opponents in terms of speed and maneuverability?
Not sure where you're getting 42 days from. Do you see what post I was replying too? - - - - - - - - - - As for beaming aboard any Imperial Ships. It would take around, what? A year or two for any Imperium ships to reach these Imperial fleets because warp travel is slow as gak? lol. No Imperium ship can ever catch up to an Imperial ship to engage it. Ergo, the Galactic Empire can destroy whatever planets it wants with impunity.
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