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Brother Coa wrote:That 2 was destroyed by ramming ship, Dominus Astra just ram into it and blow it up.

40k wins.


If it can get across the galaxy to get close enough to ram it, which will not happen.

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I'm not going to take sides in this, but this is always a fun site when comparing starships and such: http://www.merzo.net/index.html

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DeathReaper wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:That 2 was destroyed by ramming ship, Dominus Astra just ram into it and blow it up.

40k wins.


If it can get across the galaxy to get close enough to ram it, which will not happen.


1. Its already destroyed

2. Its in a seperate galaxy. And its destroyed.

3. Its already destroyed.

4. Its already destroyed.

5. Its already destroyed.

Can you get it now? There is no more galaxy gun.

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Holy Terra

DeathReaper wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:That 2 was destroyed by ramming ship, Dominus Astra just ram into it and blow it up.

40k wins.


If it can get across the galaxy to get close enough to ram it, which will not happen.


Warp travel?

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Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.


The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?

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ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote:
DeathReaper wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:That 2 was destroyed by ramming ship, Dominus Astra just ram into it and blow it up.

40k wins.


If it can get across the galaxy to get close enough to ram it, which will not happen.


1. Its already destroyed

2. Its in a seperate galaxy. And its destroyed.

3. Its already destroyed.

4. Its already destroyed.

5. Its already destroyed.

Can you get it now? There is no more galaxy gun.


I could say the same for any 40K ship.

We are comparing SW to 40K

If all you have for something I suggested is "Its already destroyed." then you have nothing.

As for warp travel, the Galaxy Gun can jet through hyperspace, and hyperspace is faster than warp travel.

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Nosey, ain't ya?

For christ sake, just conceed the damned aruement already.

so you can say that for any IoM ship. WE REBUILT OURS!!!!!!!! We are using current fluff, not stuff thats already dead! Reference my previous post:

40K wins. we have superior numbers and quality on the ground. If you want to argue 64000 SMs (source is pg.30-31 in the SM codex as well as the common knowledge of the BT's having 6000ish marines.), countless guardsmen and tanks, Super heavies, titans, Adeptus Arbites, the Inquisition, The Officio Assinorum, the Adeptus Custodes and whatever the IoM is keeping quiet.

In space it is a SLIGHTLY more level playing field. You've got you're various DESTROYED super weapons, and the GE fleet, the Seperatist fleet, the Republic fleet*.

We (The IoM) have the various Segmentum battle fleets, the Collective SM fleets, the BT armada. We mighgt also have Planetary Defence fleets **.

That is just the Iom. Discounting the Rag-Tag Ork fleets, the Tyranid Hive fleets, The Necron Tomb fleets, the Eldar Craftwolds (and any defence vessels they have), The DE raiding fleets, the Chaos fleets and the Tau fleets



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We have that. You have a couple of late/dead/ex/blown up/kaput/wasted/greased super weapons. My point is OURS STILL WORK.

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The Crusader wrote:We have that. You have a couple of late/dead/ex/blown up/kaput/wasted/greased super weapons. My point is OURS STILL WORK.


Still work is a relative term.

we were discussing the SW vs 40k going by the moves then there is no galaxy gun and 40k is at a massive disadvantage, because there are not many 40k movies out there.

but we are comparing universes, so we should include everything from each universe.

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DeathReaper wrote:
I could say the same for any 40K ship.

We are comparing SW to 40K

If all you have for something I suggested is "Its already destroyed." then you have nothing.

As for warp travel, the Galaxy Gun can jet through hyperspace, and hyperspace is faster than warp travel.


Ok:

- Problem is that every SSD and DS are destroyed. There are many hundreds if not thousands Emperor class Battleships in 40k, Dominus Astra isn't the only one you know.

-Yes we are, and it is useless because 40k is a galaxy in war for the last 10.000 years while Star Wars galaxy rarely see war on that epic scale.

-As I said 40k has many more in that same class or model. While SW SSD, DS and that Galaxy Gun were all destroyed and were all one of a kind.

-He can't shoot in Warp, that was my point. Imperial ships just enter Warp and GG hit empty space.

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Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.


The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?

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ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote:2. The force and warp power, may be similer enough that a geller field blocks it. So while star wars has zero protection, IoM might ( thats a key word fyi) have protection from the warp.
No, there is no MIGHT. The warp and the force are, FACTUALLY, different things. Again, that's like

3. The empire doesnt have one either. It is destroyed. As in gone. To put it in terms you may understand, Star War no longer has a galaxy gun. It went bye bye from a big boo boo.
Star Wars no longer has a GALACTIC EMPIRE. IT WAS DESTROYED.

I guess we just can't have an discussions involving Darth Sideous' Empire, can we, since it was destroyed in Star Wars fluff?

Do you see the failing in your logic, now, or do I need to go into MS Paint and make you a picture?

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BlaxicanX wrote:
Do you see the failing in your logic, now, or do I need to go into MS Paint and make you a picture?


Well If we're going on that logic, there's no reason why we can't have the the SM legions and the Holy God Emperor AND anything else that has slipped my mind

DeathReaper wrote:
The Crusader wrote:We have that. You have a couple of late/dead/ex/blown up/kaput/wasted/greased super weapons. My point is OURS STILL WORK.


Still work is a relative term.

we were discussing the SW vs 40k going by the moves then there is no galaxy gun and 40k is at a massive disadvantage, because there are not many 40k movies out there.

but we are comparing universes, so we should include everything from each universe.


And now those fleets grow into the hundereds of millions of CAPITAL ships. and by the way, On Brother Coa's warp travel. You wouldn' be able to shoot us because WE ARE IN ANOTHER DIMENSION!!!!

So by the above points, the Imperial Fleet alone will number in the hundered of millions. Counting the rest of 40k it would number in the hundereds of TRILLIONS (Tyranids, numbnuts). I'd like to see your Star Wars fleet prevail against them then you are gravely mistaken.

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BlaxicanX, Im not sure if your aware that we are discussing current fluff vs current fluff. The Galactic Empire is gone, yes, but there was still the Imperial Remanaut, which is later reformed into the Fel Empire, which is later reformed into a second Galactic Empire. Which is as far as I got in the EU. So its perfectly acceptable to say Empire. Since there still is a Empire.

And if we are using anything period from Either universe. IoM has the God-Emperor, so SW loses still. And besides Death Stars are weak, when fighters can blow them up.

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Having read through all this stuff. Yes the Empire still exists but it is not a galatic evil that it once was. But it still has the same technology as before. And I thought the Imperium of Man didn't proceed through technology. They still have the same blaster as before from the old republic!

Deathreaper I love how you are fighting back against us but lets face it you keep bringing up old points of super weapons. Even if they were destroyed. Current Fluff vs Current Fluff only. The Imperium wins. No Exceptions Oh wait we have jedi. Well you only have a very limited amount. They have been destroyed how many times? Five times? Six no wait. Seven. How come a bunch of clone troopers slaughtered the entire concalve of the Jedi? I mean oh no the jedi were spread out. Well still, there indiviual warriors why would you spread yourselves out so freaking much?

The Imperium will win this fight because StormTroopers, and Veterans of the Imperial Guard are more elite.
Then you have to face our Titans, and our orbital lasers, and our most powerfulest ships. Admech will take the Empire weaponry refashion it and mass produce it.

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ObliviousBlueCaboose wrote:BlaxicanX, Im not sure if your aware that we are discussing current fluff vs current fluff. The Galactic Empire is gone, yes, but there was still the Imperial Remanaut, which is later reformed into the Fel Empire, which is later reformed into a second Galactic Empire. Which is as far as I got in the EU.
Then you need to brush up on your EU. The Galactic Empire no longer exists in current EU fluff.

As for the "God Emperor". He's never shown the ability to do anything besides get his ass kicked by Horus. He's a non-factor.

That being said, where was it stated in this thread that "only current fluff can be used" by the actual maker of the thread, itself? It wasn't. You guys are doing an asspull because you have no answer to Star Wars super weapons, and now you're grasping at straws. Simple as that.

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Blackstone Fortresses were built by the Eldar, and can use the Webway, which is instant FTL, and once Farseers/Librarians (especially from the Thousand Sons/Blood Ravens) predict the location, we can be there and blow your superweapons to dust in an instant.

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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Tadashi wrote:Blackstone Fortresses were built by the Eldar, and can use the Webway, which is instant FTL, and once Farseers/Librarians (especially from the Thousand Sons/Blood Ravens) predict the location, we can be there and blow your superweapons to dust in an instant.


Imagine how demoralizing it would be as a Empire officer to be on your little little tiny Star Destroyer with this massive mother-fether comes flying out of the Warp.


"The Imperium is nothing if not willing to go to any lengths necessary. So the Trekkies are zipping around at warp speed taking small chucks out of an nigh-on infinite amount of ships, with the Imperium being unable to strike back. feth it, says central command, and detonates every vortex warhead in the fleet, plunging the entire sector into the Warp. Enjoy tentacle-rape, Kirk, we know Sulu will." -Terminus

"This great fortress was a gift to the Blood Ravens from the legendary Imperial Fists. When asked about it Chapter Master Pugh was reported to say: "THEY TOOK WHAT!?""  
   
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"PREPARE TO BROADSIDES!" - 40k officer
"Oh gak! EVASIVE!" - SW officer
"FIRE ALL!" - 40k officer

(5 minutes later)
- The Emperor is with us today, crew. Victory is ours!" - 40k officer

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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Tadashi wrote:"PREPARE TO BROADSIDES!" - 40k officer
"Oh gak! EVASIVE!" - SW officer
"FIRE ALL!" - 40k officer

(5 minutes later)
- The Emperor is with us today, crew. Victory is ours!" - 40k officer


The Adeptus Mechanicus would see the Droids used through out the Empire at go absolutely Ape- .

"The Imperium is nothing if not willing to go to any lengths necessary. So the Trekkies are zipping around at warp speed taking small chucks out of an nigh-on infinite amount of ships, with the Imperium being unable to strike back. feth it, says central command, and detonates every vortex warhead in the fleet, plunging the entire sector into the Warp. Enjoy tentacle-rape, Kirk, we know Sulu will." -Terminus

"This great fortress was a gift to the Blood Ravens from the legendary Imperial Fists. When asked about it Chapter Master Pugh was reported to say: "THEY TOOK WHAT!?""  
   
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Would be nice to see a Crusade composed entirely of Titans and Skitarii to destroy those Men of Iron, I mean droids and their factories.

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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Tadashi wrote:Blackstone Fortresses were built by the Eldar, and can use the Webway, which is instant FTL, and once Farseers/Librarians (especially from the Thousand Sons/Blood Ravens) predict the location, we can be there and blow your superweapons to dust in an instant.
The webway doesn't cover the entire Galaxy. Not even most of it, actually, according to the 4E Eldar dex. So, this fails.

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Tadashi wrote:Would be nice to see a Crusade composed entirely of Titans and Skitarii to destroy those Men of Iron, I mean droids and their factories.


Fighting against the Separatists would be a Mek Boyz wet dream.

"The Imperium is nothing if not willing to go to any lengths necessary. So the Trekkies are zipping around at warp speed taking small chucks out of an nigh-on infinite amount of ships, with the Imperium being unable to strike back. feth it, says central command, and detonates every vortex warhead in the fleet, plunging the entire sector into the Warp. Enjoy tentacle-rape, Kirk, we know Sulu will." -Terminus

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You want to use destroyed superweapons, so I'll use an intact Webway, either the one dating from the glory days of the ancient Eldar Empire, or the restored and expanded one in the Emperor's vision of an Imperial Galaxy. Or failing that, I'll build a Temple of Chaos Undivided, sacrifice a million innocents, and have the gods unleash warp storms and daemons on your superweapons.

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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Tadashi wrote:You want to use destroyed superweapons, so I'll use an intact Webway, either the one dating from the glory days of the ancient Eldar Empire, or the restored and expanded one in the Emperor's vision of an Imperial Galaxy. Or failing that, I'll build a Temple of Chaos Undivided, sacrifice a million innocents, and have the gods unleash warp storms and daemons on your superweapons.


Or just show a few Ork Warbosses all the shiny bitz they can get by invading the Empire.

"The Imperium is nothing if not willing to go to any lengths necessary. So the Trekkies are zipping around at warp speed taking small chucks out of an nigh-on infinite amount of ships, with the Imperium being unable to strike back. feth it, says central command, and detonates every vortex warhead in the fleet, plunging the entire sector into the Warp. Enjoy tentacle-rape, Kirk, we know Sulu will." -Terminus

"This great fortress was a gift to the Blood Ravens from the legendary Imperial Fists. When asked about it Chapter Master Pugh was reported to say: "THEY TOOK WHAT!?""  
   
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Alexzandvar wrote:
Tadashi wrote:Would be nice to see a Crusade composed entirely of Titans and Skitarii to destroy those Men of Iron, I mean droids and their factories.


Fighting against the Separatists would be a Mek Boyz wet dream.


"Look at all dat shiny bitz and fancy tin 'eads! Dis is a gonna be un 'ell of a fight! I love being a loota!"
"Shut up, ya gitz! Shoot now, loot later!"
- Warboss and a Loota Boy

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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Tadashi wrote:You want to use destroyed superweapons, so I'll use an intact Webway, either the one dating from the glory days of the ancient Eldar Empire, or the restored and expanded one in the Emperor's vision of an Imperial Galaxy. Or failing that, I'll build a Temple of Chaos Undivided, sacrifice a million innocents, and have the gods unleash warp storms and daemons on your superweapons.
Prove that the intact webway covered the entirety of the Galaxy.

Also, prove that warp storms are instantaneous. Considering that hyperspace jumps are quicker and more efficient than warp jumps, and also don't require using the warp at all, its within reason to assume that any Imperial ship could simply make a hyperspace jump to somewhere else.

Anyway, demons and stuff, yes. Is this your way of saying the Imperium has no way of defeating the Galactic Empire on its own?

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Alexzandvar wrote:
Tadashi wrote:You want to use destroyed superweapons, so I'll use an intact Webway, either the one dating from the glory days of the ancient Eldar Empire, or the restored and expanded one in the Emperor's vision of an Imperial Galaxy. Or failing that, I'll build a Temple of Chaos Undivided, sacrifice a million innocents, and have the gods unleash warp storms and daemons on your superweapons.


Or just show a few Ork Warbosses all the shiny bitz they can get by invading the Empire.


"Boyz, I think we just hit the biggest jackpot of loot in dis big universe!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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A friend of mine pointed out to me that in the 5E rules codex (or it might've been SM, can't remember), it's stated that if the Emperor ever truly dies, Chaos will flood the universe and reality will cease to exist. In that manner there's nothing in the Star Wars universe that could contend with that, as the Chaos Gods can't be killed by conventional means.

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BlaxicanX wrote:
Tadashi wrote:You want to use destroyed superweapons, so I'll use an intact Webway, either the one dating from the glory days of the ancient Eldar Empire, or the restored and expanded one in the Emperor's vision of an Imperial Galaxy. Or failing that, I'll build a Temple of Chaos Undivided, sacrifice a million innocents, and have the gods unleash warp storms and daemons on your superweapons.
Prove that the intact webway covered the entirety of the Galaxy.

Also, prove that warp storms are instantaneous. Considering that hyperspace jumps are quicker and more efficient than warp jumps, and also don't require using the warp at all, its within reason to assume that any Imperial ship could simply make a hyperspace jump to somewhere else.

Anyway, demons and stuff, yes. Is this your way of saying the Imperium has no way of defeating the Galactic Empire on its own?


The Eldar Empire's homeworlds are in what is now the Eldar Empire, but their influence covered the whole galaxy, so the Webway did extend over the entire galaxy. Even if it didn't the Imperial Webway would have.

And, this is 40k vs. SW remember? Any faction will do, since you can't accept the fact that without your superweapons, you are helpless before the iron fist of the Imperial Military.

And warp storms are instantaneous, they happen without warning, especially the ones summoned by sorcery and not the 'freak' storms that happen every now and then. Before your ships go into hyperspace, they'll get torn apart by the warp.

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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.

'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' 
   
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Tadashi wrote:
BlaxicanX wrote:
Tadashi wrote:You want to use destroyed superweapons, so I'll use an intact Webway, either the one dating from the glory days of the ancient Eldar Empire, or the restored and expanded one in the Emperor's vision of an Imperial Galaxy. Or failing that, I'll build a Temple of Chaos Undivided, sacrifice a million innocents, and have the gods unleash warp storms and daemons on your superweapons.
Prove that the intact webway covered the entirety of the Galaxy.

Also, prove that warp storms are instantaneous. Considering that hyperspace jumps are quicker and more efficient than warp jumps, and also don't require using the warp at all, its within reason to assume that any Imperial ship could simply make a hyperspace jump to somewhere else.

Anyway, demons and stuff, yes. Is this your way of saying the Imperium has no way of defeating the Galactic Empire on its own?


The Eldar Empire's homeworlds are in what is now the Eldar Empire, but their influence covered the whole galaxy, so the Webway did extend over the entire galaxy. Even if it didn't the Imperial Webway would have.

And, this is 40k vs. SW remember? Any faction will do, since you can't accept the fact that without your superweapons, you are helpless before the iron fist of the Imperial Military. Before your ships go into hyperspace, they'll get torn apart by the warp.

And warp storms are instantaneous, they happen without warning, especially the ones summoned by sorcery and not the 'freak' storms that happen every now and then.


Not to mention the fact that the "Gods of Chaos" with Chaos implied in the name would never let there fan base the Imperium of Man die.

Or the Great game to end, what else would the gods to with out it?

"The Imperium is nothing if not willing to go to any lengths necessary. So the Trekkies are zipping around at warp speed taking small chucks out of an nigh-on infinite amount of ships, with the Imperium being unable to strike back. feth it, says central command, and detonates every vortex warhead in the fleet, plunging the entire sector into the Warp. Enjoy tentacle-rape, Kirk, we know Sulu will." -Terminus

"This great fortress was a gift to the Blood Ravens from the legendary Imperial Fists. When asked about it Chapter Master Pugh was reported to say: "THEY TOOK WHAT!?""  
   
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Tadashi wrote:The Eldar Empire's homeworlds are in what is now the Eldar Empire, but their influence covered the whole galaxy, so the Webway did extend over the entire galaxy. Even if it didn't the Imperial Webway would have.
I asked you to prove this, please.

And, this is 40k vs. SW remember? Any faction will do, since you can't accept the fact that without your superweapons, you are helpless before the iron fist of the Imperial Military. Before your ships go into hyperspace, they'll get torn apart by the warp.
Not saying you can't use any faction, just remarking that it's funny how the 40K side of this keeps changing its tune. First it was "The Imperium alone would slaughter the GE!" When that proved to be false, a new tactic was introduced: "Current fluff only!" That's failed, and now we're at the next step, which is basically "throw everything in the 40k universe possible at 'em". Just an observation of the evolving dynamic in here, is all. As I just said above, the Chaos Gods would be able to destroy the Empire eventually, probably through corrupting its personnel, because the Chaos Gods can't be killed.

And warp storms are instantaneous, they happen without warning, especially the ones summoned by sorcery and not the 'freak' storms that happen every now and then.
I asked you to prove this, please.

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An entire game was based around it Blax.


Dawn of War: Soul Storm.

"The Imperium is nothing if not willing to go to any lengths necessary. So the Trekkies are zipping around at warp speed taking small chucks out of an nigh-on infinite amount of ships, with the Imperium being unable to strike back. feth it, says central command, and detonates every vortex warhead in the fleet, plunging the entire sector into the Warp. Enjoy tentacle-rape, Kirk, we know Sulu will." -Terminus

"This great fortress was a gift to the Blood Ravens from the legendary Imperial Fists. When asked about it Chapter Master Pugh was reported to say: "THEY TOOK WHAT!?""  
   
 
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