A matter of Sanity.

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**Alexzandvar**

I know we have had these threads before, but I could not seem to dig up the one I needed.

That being the Galactic Republic from Star Wars: The Clone Wars VS The Imperium of Man.

This whole issue being sparked off by another argument and my other DoW playing friends ( Note that these players always play XENOS SCUM, or VILE CURSED HERETICS in our games ), of which faction would be able to crush the other.

My whole idea on the matter being even if the Galactic Republic was bigger, the Imperium has far more dedication to war and the drawing of resources from the planets it does have.

Then there is the whole she-bang on the Guardsmen VS the Clones and the Space Marines VS the Jedi, although it seems that even the Guard would be able to outnumber any clone army, and the Space Marines would be able to outnumber and crush the few in number Jedi.

Thoughts? Ideas?

-Colonel Alexzandvar Douglass, Commander of the Firehawk 1st Armored.

**azazel the cat**

Imperium of Man seems to know nothing but war, whereas the Old Republic had better things to do. In any case, my money is on the side that doesn't have its most powerful warrior getting pwned because he wasn't standing on the higher ground.

**chaplaincliff**

1st off, we are on a 40k forum, thus 40k wins, no matter what.

now for why;

space marines and exterminatus, i did some research, i had a good thing to say, but you know what, we all know the answer, one space marine is worth 20 clones, or more. and at the time of the clone wars the empire had no planet killing weapon, but the empire has three that i can think of off hand, and one only kills all life, allowing for resettlement.

and as for jedi vs. marines, the jedi use fancy tricks, but can they stop 20 or more bolter shots coming at them at the same time from a single squad of marines? yeah the jedi may take out a few marines with that fancy sword of his, but i will bet he can't win 5-1 or for sure 10-1 odds against him.

we know this argument, it comes up all the time.

star trek looses

star wars looses

halo looses

whatever other sci-fi universe you have....looses.

I don't want to sound mean, I know I have, but this is easy, just do some research, and you can prove your friends wrong so fast they wont even know what hit them.

**Alexzandvar**

My idea on the matter was just that the Imperium would be able to crush the Galactic Republic under a sea of men and cheap but efficient weaponry.

**DeathReaper**

The Death Star would make quick work of any IoM ship.

Check that The Death Star would make quick work of ALL IoM ships.

**Tadashi**

40k wins;

1) The Imperium
- Astartes can fight Jedi on par with power weapons and superhuman reflexes; Librarians can overpower Jedi/Sith with ease, since while Force and the Immaterium are similar, the Immaterium in the 40k galaxy has been distorted into the warp, and Jedi/Sith don't know how to counteract daemons and Chaotic influence
- Imperial Guard can match clones in numbers and overwhelm them with armor
- the Navy has a diadvantage in FTL, but the ground troops can hold until reinforcements arrive; lances and nova cannons appear be more powerful than turbolasers, and the Imperial Navy has greater numbers and makes extensive use of versatile torpedoes
- Titans will crush walkers with ease and annihilate clones by the division

2) Chaos
- Jedi/Sith can't match Sorcerers drawing on the warp with less restraint than Librarians; daemons will just be dandy
- Clones are Chaos army waiting to happen, either driven insane by sorcery or resurrected as plague zombies

3) Tyranids
- Must I explain?

4) Eldar
- Eldar can't engage the enemy head-on, they don't have numbers; rather, they'd outflank the enemy and eliminate command, communications, and supplies, effectively beheading the enemy
- Jedi/Sith can't match Farseers and Warlocks
- Eldar have the Webway and their navies can outmaneuver enemy navies with ease

5) Dark Eldar
- same as the Eldar

6) Orks
- WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7) Tau
- probably the only 40k race that can't beat Star Wars, but Star Trek can be conquered by the Tau

8) Necrons
- Necrons have the Webway too
- their technology makes even the Eldar look like barbarians

Others: Torpedoes in 40k are enough to crack planets, although it takes three Blackstone Fortresses to destroy a star, something Star Wars and Star Trek accomplishes with torpedoes.

**DeathReaper**

Tadashi wrote:40k wins;

1) The Imperium
- Astartes can fight Jedi on par with power weapons and superhuman reflexes; Librarians can overpower Jedi/Sith with ease, since while Force and the Immaterium are similar, the Immaterium in the 40k galaxy has been distorted into the warp, and Jedi/Sith don't know how to counteract daemons and Chaotic influence
- Imperial Guard can match clones in numbers and overwhelm them with armor
- the Navy has a diadvantage in FTL, but the ground troops can hold until reinforcements arrive; lances and nova cannons appear be more powerful than turbolasers, and the Imperial Navy has greater numbers and makes extensive use of versatile torpedoes
- Titans will crush walkers with ease and annihilate clones by the division