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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 02:48:02
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Doesn't change the fact your superweapons are helpless once the Imperial Navy catches up. You have to refuel and resupply too, you know, and sometimes, if the warp is cooperative (as might be the case when you start altering the balance of power between all gods) then we can arrive even before you do at the destination. And once again, we claim victory thanks to our superior ship-to-ship capability.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/01/16 12:14:13
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 03:22:32
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Actually the galaxy gun isnt that scary. The shell has to drop out of hyperspace before it hits the planet. Since SW Sub light is slow, and since IoMs firepower out matches sw, and any important system will have more firepower then the deathstar, the galaxy gun is pretty much useless.
Oh and it pretty much the same thing the IoM uses to destroy a planet. And the IoM has the shells in spades.
Point being, the galaxy gun is of limited use. And if it was used, well the IoM has alot more superweapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 03:27:29
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Actually where do you keep getting this year or two? IT sometimes takes a day or a week. A year is across the gaxaly!
Your estimates are off and Battle Barges are 10x more scarier than a Battleship, they are 2x larger and can hold 3 companies of marines. sorry mate but the Star Wars universe is yet again outmatched.
You keep pulling stuff up that we have already shot down.
Life Eater Corsancant and nuke it from orbit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 03:36:10
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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BlaxicanX wrote:Kaldor wrote:Emphasis mine, now. lol. Several light seconds? Each light second is around 300,000 kilometres. In other words, each light second is about a 42 day trip, at full speed, for a SW fighter. More for a Capital ship.
Losing engagement? How are they going to lose any engagement where they so dramatically outclass their opponents in terms of speed and maneuverability?
Not sure where you're getting 42 days from. Do you see what post I was replying too?
Because the speed of an X Wing is 100mglt per hour. Which is roughly one meter per second. So to travel the distance of a single light second, or 299,792,458 metres, would take an X Wing roughly 42 days. The Eisenstein covered several' light seconds in 23 pages, in a sequence which appeared to take no more than 10 minutes. Giving the Eisenstein a rate of travel roughly 18,000 times faster than an X Wing.
Now, we can argue the finer points. Maybe the sequence in the book went for longer, maybe 'several' light seconds refers to only two, not three, maybe an X Wing can travel at more than 100mglt per hour.
But whichever way the argument slices, the IoM ships will be exponentially faster than their SW counterparts.
As for beaming aboard any Imperial Ships. It would take around, what? A year or two for any Imperium ships to reach these Imperial fleets because warp travel is slow as gak? lol. No Imperium ship can ever catch up to an Imperial ship to engage it. Ergo, the Galactic Empire can destroy whatever planets it wants with impunity.
What good is the SW fleet if it never engages a target? If it DOES engage a target, then ANY defences present at that target will SHRED the SW ships. Even a single fighter or escort is so much faster than the SW ships they may as well be standing still. Even lightly armed system ships or retro-fitted civilian yachts will annihilate SW ships based on speed and weapon ranges alone. It's no good being able to get to the fight really fast, if you can't actually FIGHT.
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"Did you ever notice how in the Bible, when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel? Did you ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? A whole existence spent praising your God, but always with one wing dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 03:38:32
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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BlaxicanX wrote:Kaldor wrote:Emphasis mine, now. lol. Several light seconds? Each light second is around 300,000 kilometres. In other words, each light second is about a 42 day trip, at full speed, for a SW fighter. More for a Capital ship. Losing engagement? How are they going to lose any engagement where they so dramatically outclass their opponents in terms of speed and maneuverability?
Not sure where you're getting 42 days from. Do you see what post I was replying too? - - - - - - - - - - As for beaming aboard any Imperial Ships. It would take around, what? A year or two for any Imperium ships to reach these Imperial fleets because warp travel is slow as gak? lol. No Imperium ship can ever catch up to an Imperial ship to engage it. Ergo, the Galactic Empire can destroy whatever planets it wants with impunity. You keep saying the ships are slow but you keep ignoring the facts already sat down by the Fluff. You cannot disregard fluff saying it is OTT. Because thats 40k it is hell over the top. Stop ignoring posts!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 03:46:44
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Asherian Command wrote:You keep saying the ships are slow but you keep ignoring the facts already sat down by the Fluff. You cannot disregard fluff saying it is OTT. Because thats 40k it is hell over the top.
Who keeps saying which ships are slow? Who keeps ignoring what fluff? What 40K fluff is 'hell over the top'?
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"Did you ever notice how in the Bible, when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel? Did you ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? A whole existence spent praising your God, but always with one wing dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 03:48:46
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Kaldor wrote:Asherian Command wrote:You keep saying the ships are slow but you keep ignoring the facts already sat down by the Fluff. You cannot disregard fluff saying it is OTT. Because thats 40k it is hell over the top.
Who keeps saying which ships are slow? Who keeps ignoring what fluff? What 40K fluff is 'hell over the top'?
Blaxician that is his arguement.
Sorry couldn't quote him I will go back to fix it.
Dude this is 40k Grim Darkness and 8 foot space marines with rocket launcher side arms and weapons does not sound over the top to you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 04:13:49
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Manhunter
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Asherian Command wrote:Kaldor wrote:Asherian Command wrote:You keep saying the ships are slow but you keep ignoring the facts already sat down by the Fluff. You cannot disregard fluff saying it is OTT. Because thats 40k it is hell over the top.
Who keeps saying which ships are slow? Who keeps ignoring what fluff? What 40K fluff is 'hell over the top'?
Blaxician that is his arguement.
Sorry couldn't quote him I will go back to fix it.
Dude this is 40k Grim Darkness and 8 foot space marines with rocket launcher side arms and weapons does not sound over the top to you?
Not really. In my mind it fits the galaxy. Of course YMMV.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 05:49:02
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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Hmm... now im confused is it the 40k universe vs the star wars universe or the IoM vs whatever the SW goverment is called? If it s the 40k vs sw then 40k wins hands down. Reason you may ask? Well because one easy way to destroy your superweapons is to use some of the more advanced necron technology. Using there knowledge of the stars they can predict the future as can the eldar so they know where you are and where your going to be, so in just that they could easily cut you off wherever you go. Not to mention the fact that the the necrons can also go back in time (well actually only one necron can but thats enough because he can teach others). Now if you come up with some arguement to counter that then there is a tomb world called Thanatos. Inside of this world is the celstial orrery a machine capable of destroying planets in an instance causing it to go supernova even more effective than the "star destroyer" This can destroy entire systems in seconds even the galaxy if they wanted to. So you decide to destroy terra and plan to land allll the way on the other side of the galaxy, necrons forging a temporary alliance with the emporor decide to destroy the "greater threat"  . They know you were going to land there they wait for the propheceed second, you land, you arm your cannons or whatever, you go boom. After that all factories capable of producing more go boom. Then we move on to the rest of the super weapons like the death star and so on untill you are defenceless and then the emporor gos boom and all the jedi and all the padawans and all the sith and then Kamino and then any other planet out there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 09:25:51
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Asherian Command wrote:Actually where do you keep getting this year or two? IT sometimes takes a day or a week. A year is across the gaxaly!
Your estimates are off and Battle Barges are 10x more scarier than a Battleship, they are 2x larger and can hold 3 companies of marines. sorry mate but the Star Wars universe is yet again outmatched.
You keep pulling stuff up that we have already shot down.
Life Eater Corsancant and nuke it from orbit.
And e are still talking about the Imperium only. Do we really need to introduce others?
AT- AT? Daemon Prince want's t toy wit hit
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Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 12:17:56
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Asherian Command wrote:Kaldor wrote:Asherian Command wrote:You keep saying the ships are slow but you keep ignoring the facts already sat down by the Fluff. You cannot disregard fluff saying it is OTT. Because thats 40k it is hell over the top. Who keeps saying which ships are slow? Who keeps ignoring what fluff? What 40K fluff is 'hell over the top'?
Blaxician that is his arguement. Sorry couldn't quote him I will go back to fix it. Dude this is 40k Grim Darkness and 8 foot space marines with rocket launcher side arms and weapons does not sound over the top to you? Since when was 40k not over the top? This is science fantasy, not science fiction. While science fiction makes the improbable possible, science fantasy makes the impossible probable.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 12:32:56
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Manhunter
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Tadashi wrote:Asherian Command wrote:Kaldor wrote:Asherian Command wrote:You keep saying the ships are slow but you keep ignoring the facts already sat down by the Fluff. You cannot disregard fluff saying it is OTT. Because thats 40k it is hell over the top.
Who keeps saying which ships are slow? Who keeps ignoring what fluff? What 40K fluff is 'hell over the top'?
Blaxician that is his arguement.
Sorry couldn't quote him I will go back to fix it.
Dude this is 40k Grim Darkness and 8 foot space marines with rocket launcher side arms and weapons does not sound over the top to you?
Since when was 40k not over the top? This is science fantasy, not science fiction. While science fiction makes the improbable possible, science fantasy makes the impossible probable.
I like that. Makes sense. Alot of sense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 19:11:01
Subject: A matter of Sanity.
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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Asherian Command wrote:BlaxicanX wrote:Kaldor wrote:Emphasis mine, now. lol. Several light seconds? Each light second is around 300,000 kilometres. In other words, each light second is about a 42 day trip, at full speed, for a SW fighter. More for a Capital ship.
Losing engagement? How are they going to lose any engagement where they so dramatically outclass their opponents in terms of speed and maneuverability?
Not sure where you're getting 42 days from. Do you see what post I was replying too?
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As for beaming aboard any Imperial Ships. It would take around, what? A year or two for any Imperium ships to reach these Imperial fleets because warp travel is slow as gak? lol. No Imperium ship can ever catch up to an Imperial ship to engage it. Ergo, the Galactic Empire can destroy whatever planets it wants with impunity.
You assume that every Imperium ship is in one place, but they are spread out all across the Galaxy, the SW empire can't destroy with impunity because there are always vastly superior IoM ships right there to blow them up
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