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Well I'm also a Swede (albeit sans ponytail), and I have been in Canada on a couple occasions in my life. These things happen.
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Wait... Maybe I am Lars... Maybe it's like in that movie, whatsitcalled, Fight Club...

Yay page 11!! Trodax, you are too smart to be "Lars"

Honestly adw update trend reminds the movie, 'Groundhog day.'

 CptJake wrote:
I have to admit, I have not been following this very closely, but surely the 'sculpt' in the spoiler pictures is just you joking around right? Taking 5-10 minutes with your kid's PlayDoh to make fun of the KS, right?

I wish it were so, my friend, I wish it were so.

 Goblini wrote:
Trodax, you are too smart to be "Lars"

Ha, thank you I guess!

This is absolute waste of material and insult on dire wolf.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dinaandrewswalker/miniature-ice-age-mammal-adventure-set/posts/993099

Seems more and more like it's just 1 guy who may or may not be called Lars doing the "sculpting".

Kinda wondering if he's maybe just having his kid do these in an attempt to appease the backers while he formulates the next scam project...

yea, we've seen no WIP sculpts of the other two part-timers they say they have

I thought they were doing the furniture in 3D modeling?

And that frog....*Shudder*

Oh man, I just saw that frog and armoire.
And I noticed that Lars is drinking( look at the glass with some kind of beer or wine)

If i knew these people, I'd advise them to quit, refund the money and have some peace of mind.

Dat frog.

I don't even...

hahahaha check out this latest quote in the Sea Monster comment section from 'Lars'

"Most of you, who read this, know I sculpt as a hobby. I have an MFA that I got from night school after my MA in engineering. So, I am adequate, and I generally know crap from cream, but I like the paint jobs on these minis (above)."

Really? YOu sculpt as a hobby? *snort*

His MFA stands for "Masters in Fething Arrogance".

Glad he clarified that the Direwolf is larger than it would have been, historically. Pity to let scale ruin an otherwise perfect sculpt.

I wish they would stop refering to their sculpts as "studies". I think it really undersells the amount of thought, research and labour that has gone in to each and every one.

Also, if I had to make a tiny armoire to, for example,protect my family from the depridations of a malicious gnome wizard (work with me here) the very first material I would reach for is fething wax, so I'm glad the creator and I are on the same wavelength.

 Lockark wrote:
Are throws two holes in it's chest suppose to be nipples?

Nope, they're for the steady stream of BS.

"Lars", 7 hours ago wrote:I looked at some amazing people minis today and was massively inspired.
http://finiatures.blogspot.ca/2012_01_01_archive.html

Most of you, who read this, know I sculpt as a hobby. I have an MFA that I got from night school after my MA in engineering. So, I am adequate, and I generally know crap from cream, but I like the paint jobs on these minis (above).

For instance:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3oqKhZUL_bc/Twxi9w0mATI/AAAAAAAAAVc/JBfk_PacxLA/s1600/2.jpg
I love that. Once I get a breather, I am going into the Warm Sea Smuggler figures and the gnome ringmasters for the Dark Carnival series for November.

Awesome to hear they are still en route for the Dark Carnival Kickstarter in November. That's going to be glorious.

Oh man. Seriously, these links to miniature blogs here and there (last one was those horses) just feel so random. It's like they're just now having a look around the net, and being blown away by what people are doing in our hobby ("woa, look at that, they're even painting eyes on those little men!!!"). And this is in fact exactly what I think is happening. The sad part is that they in their first Kickstarter (Doggerland) presented themselves as really experienced gamers, for example:

The Doggerland design library has over 150 wargame and miniature rule sets on its shelves. Yes. We have played them all. Over the decades, we have, collectively, invested more in miniature games than the cost of a new (2014) German car.

But since then, there have been a lot of subtle hints that they aren't all that familiar with the hobby:
* Saying that they will switch their game system from Song of Blades and Heroes to Pathfinder, indicating that they might be a bit blurry on the distinction between a skirmish game and an RPG.
* Posting a link to an article about computer games as a description of how misogynic the gaming industry is, indicating that they view "gamers" as a coherent group.
* Saying that the grid they're using to show the scale of their miniatures is 28mm, indicating that they might be confusing the traditional scale of miniatures with the one-inch grid commonly used in many RPG's.

I believe they are just googling things up as they go.

Agreed 100%, Trodax.

 Sirithiliel wrote:
"Most of you, who read this, know I sculpt as a hobby. I have an MFA that I got from night school after my MA in engineering. So, I am adequate, and I generally know crap from cream, but I like the paint jobs on these minis (above)."

Really? YOu sculpt as a hobby? *snort*

It's an insult to hobby sculptors. The pics being shown off are more like they're from someone who's never sculpted at all. And, like the man says, has no idea of good or even acceptable quality in miniatures. (I know that there are some low, low standards in corners of the wargaming 'industry', and even some people ready and willing to hail these things as masterpieces*, but strewth.)

* Though modern medicine has made wonderful strides in the field of optical surgery.

 Alex C wrote:
His MFA stands for "Masters in Fething Arrogance".

I'd also suggest "Masters in Fraudulent Activities"

 Goblini wrote:

 Alex C wrote:
His MFA stands for "Masters in Fething Arrogance".

I'd also suggest "Masters in Fraudulent Activities"

Even better

You guys are really missing the scary elephant in the room.


Backers may actually receive these sculpts (by Lars).


I'll let that sink in for a minute.

Yes, our very own Highlord is going to do a painting blog I believe.

Well, if he actually GETS anything...

He's a brave man!

 Alex C wrote:
Yes, our very own Highlord is going to do a painting blog I believe.

Well, if he actually GETS anything...

He's a brave man!

I'd rather write off the cash rather than receive these studies.....

 Mr. Burning wrote:

 Alex C wrote:
Yes, our very own Highlord is going to do a painting blog I believe.

Well, if he actually GETS anything...

He's a brave man!

I'd rather write off the cash rather than receive these studies.....

Hi everyone! Been following this thread because I became a backer in, what could only be called, a moment of temporary insanity.

I was thinking the same thing, but now I'm thinking of something inspired by LadySabelle's/Shurri's annual Hirst Arts fireworks display... and blow the crud out of those models, videotape it and make sure they get a link so they can watch it. ;-)

You can send them to me. I'll set 'em on the back side of the pond where I have a little shooting range. I'll video them getting hit with a .22 for ya.

Welcome Jchunick!


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I think people with that much of history of scams in the past will not bother delivering. What they will do to get funded for their Carnival KS in Nov;
They will mold and cast few pieces and update some progress pictures > show "boxes" as if all the deliveries are ready to be shipped> Launch Carnival KS> get funded and disappear

Yeah, welcome to Dakkadakka Jchunick!

 Goblini wrote:
I think people with that much of history of scams in the past will not bother delivering. What they will do to get funded for their Carnival KS in Nov;
They will mold and cast few pieces and update some progress pictures > show "boxes" as if all the deliveries are ready to be shipped> Launch Carnival KS> get funded and disappear

I would actually wager money that they won't be delivering. Even in the unlikely event that they actually have access to machinery allowing them to cast these really cheaply, I bet just the shipping costs would eat up a substantial amount of the money they've raked in. I really can't see how they can launch Carnival without delivering, though, but perhaps they will find a way. Interesting times ahead!

 Trodax wrote:
Yeah, welcome to Dakkadakka Jchunick!

 Goblini wrote:
I think people with that much of history of scams in the past will not bother delivering. What they will do to get funded for their Carnival KS in Nov;
They will mold and cast few pieces and update some progress pictures > show "boxes" as if all the deliveries are ready to be shipped> Launch Carnival KS> get funded and disappear

I would actually wager money that they won't be delivering. Even in the unlikely event that they actually have access to machinery allowing them to cast these really cheaply, I bet just the shipping costs would eat up a substantial amount of the money they've raked in. I really can't see how they can launch Carnival without delivering, though, but perhaps they will find a way. Interesting times ahead!

For November KS, I can totally see them luring talented artist or game designer who are unaware of their shadiness with some advance contract $$$. By using their names and works, they might get funded even without delivering their previous KSes.
Then they might launch Doggerland KS right after depending on reaction of backers.
They will try to make big money through KS before they disappear and that is for certain!

 Vermis wrote:
Agreed 100%, Trodax.

 Sirithiliel wrote:
"Most of you, who read this, know I sculpt as a hobby. I have an MFA that I got from night school after my MA in engineering. So, I am adequate, and I generally know crap from cream, but I like the paint jobs on these minis (above)."

Really? YOu sculpt as a hobby? *snort*

It's an insult to hobby sculptors. The pics being shown off are more like they're from someone who's never sculpted at all. And, like the man says, has no idea of good or even acceptable quality in miniatures. (I know that there are some low, low standards in corners of the wargaming 'industry', and even some people ready and willing to hail these things as masterpieces*, but strewth.)

* Though modern medicine has made wonderful strides in the field of optical surgery.

I agree. I've sculpted a grand total of three things. Two of them are still unfinished. Here's a pic of my second in progress one! A little griffon I'm sculpting.

I mean seriously, what are they doing over there? and dont' forget, he says he's a hobby sculptor and apparently has been doing this for years...though his quality either says he's a total liar, or just extremely untalented and needs a different field for his hobby

I will paint the feth out of those "studies." Who wouldn't?

I will however be absolutely shocked and mystified if I ever receive anything.

Part of me is tempted to back the carnival one just to troll the comments.

Yeah, I do digital sculpting and contract out to others.

That Griffon as a anatomical base with no fleshing out is already way better than anything this kickstarter has shown.

First year college students do better than this KS. You have to willfully be not trying at all to produce something as bad as this KS is. Even those that I saw initially produce bad work and wanted to legitimately improve do better in the time period shown between the ice age mammals and this.

Every time I see stuff like this it just makes me wonder why I'm bothering to try for quality. It's incredibly annoying to be stretching my finances thin doing legitimate sculpting work and actually paying my sculptors, when scammers like this just rake it in.

.....do....does anyone understand the comment in the Ice Age comment section? It seems so random and out of the blue, especially considering they weren't going to talk there anymore

I mean....what are they rambling about? Music?

On the Reaper forum, someone had a rather plausible guess on what this means:

Posted Today, 09:45 AM
@nocturne, I don't think so. See the following comment the intent is to insult DWM for his criticisms.

Basically what they're trying to say is

"Our sculpts are awesome works of art. See how critics give bad reviews to things that come to be considered masterpieces! Here's something you can put in your pie hole for what you pledged"

I'm not buying it.

 Vertrucio wrote:

That Griffon as a anatomical base with no fleshing out is already way better than anything this kickstarter has shown.

Seconded.

The music comment: typed out on the wrong website? Obfuscation? Nervous breakdown?

The few comments after that are wonderful examples of professionalism. If people aren't flocking in droves to (try to) reclaim their pledges, I dunno.

Edit: somehow I doubt that's the John Olsen who's commented (how many Olsens and Johns are there?), but it's starting to get pretty skeevy now.

Ooh this is getting nasty....

Do you think they'll claim they've been hacked?

Just like they claimed it was a part timer that made all the nasty comments before?

oh yikes...things just got waaaaaaay out of line