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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
From Spikeybits ...

"The Genestealer kit is specifically for GSC Genestealers, and they are based off the most recent Space Hulk Genestealer design."

I don't remember the Space Hulk genestealers being any different to the ones currently available fore 40k - other than being painted blue, and being less varied in physiology.


The Deathwatch: Overkill design harked back to the original Space Hulk Stealers. Maybe they meant that?

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The ones in spacehulk were not very different from the current ones. Unless they mean the new video game ones, that have some variety in their stealers, but no customization for those variants.

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zamerion wrote:

And in the new images of the cult the old models are seen

They're not the old models, they're the ones from Deathwatch:Overkill. They have different back plates, and are on 32mm bases (not slot bases) and have a few minor differences.

NEWER SCULPTS:
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These are the old ones:
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Minor differences, but differences nonetheless.

The original rumour said that there would be new sculpts, the DW:OK Genestealers were shown as examples to show that there are more updated (but otherwise unreleased outside of their game box) Genestealer Sculpts.

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could those purestrain be new ones?

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changemod wrote:


No.

There’s a purestrains sprue in tooth and claw, and it’s the ancient slot base and hours of mouldline removal ones.



I realize they're getting older now, but those are hardly the 'ancient' ones. I actually refer to the them as 'new' stealers, cause of all their 'fancy' extra bits.

THESE are the ancient ones.
Spoiler:

Sorry, old man ramble ended.

It would make sense to update the Purstrain kit, as there could be more (or less) purestrain options for GSC. I plan on painting mine different then the Tyranid ones, though, they'll still look somewhat cohesive. It would be cool if the GSC purestrains had little details like some sort of items, or markings on them, that were clearly not tyranid. I'll be anxious to see what they come up with .

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 aracersss wrote:
could those purestrain be new ones?

Ah, I don't think so.

I'm not sure what those red bits are on either side of the central spine though. If it was a new sculpt that difference would be really minor.

Wait, is it just me, or do those look like they're on 32mm bases?

I can't tell.

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Working on it

After glancing at the ones on my shelf it looks like it's a 25mm base

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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
From Spikeybits ...

"The Genestealer kit is specifically for GSC Genestealers, and they are based off the most recent Space Hulk Genestealer design."

I don't remember the Space Hulk genestealers being any different to the ones currently available fore 40k - other than being painted blue, and being less varied in physiology.


I mean, they are fantastically dynamically posed. I ebay those dudes for all my gene stealing needs, they're better sculpts by a country mile.
   
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There's a possibility the source saw some models, and thought they were Genestealers, when they were a different type of hybrid?

From the art trailer, we see these monstrosities, behind the herder character ("medic"):

They look like a heavily carapaced mix between Purestrain Genestealers and Aberrants. We've not seen what the "medic" is even herding around either. They might just be "artistic freedom" aberrants, but we've already got an "abberant paired" character. The one on the right hand side appears to be holding a large pole of some kind, which seems to indicate they're aberrants.

Another interesting thing is that the trailer also seems to indicate he has a familiar too.


Either they're new models that aren't purestrain genestealers (but somewhat similar in style) and my source is mistaken, or he was just 100% wrong - I only posted his information because he was right about the [triple-pistol hybrid] character being in a kill team box, and he knew some unrevealed specifics about the Vigilus Narrative (which could just have been lucky guesses).

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Working on it

In my opinion it looks like a couple of abberants or something that 'medic' guy has experimented with. It looks like someone crossed aberrants with carnifexes and drugged them up. Maybe it'll be a box like the Kastellan robots? Medic dude plus 2 creatures and maybe a familiar?

I'm definitely wish listing here, but I would love to see them be like psuedo Carnifexes. The only thing that makes me think not is that theres no role that they could fill thats not already filled by aberrants (or genestealers, for that matter).

It'll definitely be interesting to see.

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 aracersss wrote:
could those purestrain be new ones?


No, those are the studio ones for the Cult of the Rusted Claw army (the orange and cream one).

CaptainBetts wrote:
I'm not sure what those red bits are on either side of the central spine though. If it was a new sculpt that difference would be really minor.


The red lines on the carapace is warpaint applied by the hybrids to mark different broods (same warpaint can be seen on Rusted Claw Aberrants).

CaptainBetts wrote:
Wait, is it just me, or do those look like they're on 32mm bases?

I can't tell.


All of the Genestealers used for codex pictures were mounted on 32mm bases like the Deathwatch Overkill ones. The Rusted Claw army also uses the cityscape bases as well, so presumably the rebasing was partially for consistency across that particular army.

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 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
In my opinion it looks like a couple of abberants or something that 'medic' guy has experimented with. It looks like someone crossed aberrants with carnifexes and drugged them up. Maybe it'll be a box like the Kastellan robots? Medic dude plus 2 creatures and maybe a familiar?

I'm definitely wish listing here, but I would love to see them be like psuedo Carnifexes. The only thing that makes me think not is that theres no role that they could fill thats not already filled by aberrants (or genestealers, for that matter).

It'll definitely be interesting to see.


I also wish they were pseudo Carnifexes, but accept that is the least likely option when comparing them to just stylized abbs.

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Working on it

I agree, who knows, maybe he does just buff aberrants. That's still pretty good in my book. So if this saturday is likely the last wave of gloomspite gitz releases, then does anyone think we'll see the first GSC wave previewed this sunday?

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War Coven of the Coruscating Gaze ~2500pts
Vectorium of the Thrice-Plagued ~3000pts
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 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I agree, who knows, maybe he does just buff aberrants. That's still pretty good in my book. So if this saturday is likely the last wave of gloomspite gitz releases, then does anyone think we'll see the first GSC wave previewed this sunday?

I don't personally follow the AoS/Kill Team/Titanicus news, so I have no idea what GW's current release schedule looks like with regards to them.

If there's nothing coming up already (or thought to be coming up), I wouldn't be surprised if we got something this weekend. Though from memory I seem to recall that for other releases, pre-orders were announced after a bit more news about the release.

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Grey Knights: 2500pts
Daemons: 250pts
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Working on it

True, true, maybe we'll see something in the next few days. Or it could be one of those things where they preview it the week before it goes up for preorder. Like an ambush in true GSC fashion

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Vectorium of the Thrice-Plagued ~3000pts
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I'm personally really hoping to see some Regimental Standard stuff to do with GSC.

It would be really cool if they were to start off by posting "normal" articles, but they have some hidden references in them. Then as the articles keep coming out, they get progressively more and more obvious, until on the last one before the codex, they "pull off the mask" and call for all Cultists to rise up.

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Working on it

So with all these new characters, and depending on points drops, do you think it'll be of interest to take a vanguard of 1-2 Hq's and these new characters (if they really are Elites)?

If this blip system turns out to be true and not just rumor, having 4-5 blips in one area could play mind games with an opponent especially if it could be a couple characters or almost 50 infantry.

I wonder how vehicles will play out as well, i don't think they'll be able to hide much.

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 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
If this blip system turns out to be true and not just rumor, having 4-5 blips in one area could play mind games with an opponent especially if it could be a couple characters or almost 50 infantry.

The blip system is real, but we basically know very little about it, other than rough mechanics and that the Nexos allows you to move blips and you don't count as having moved (at least for the purposes of firing heavy weapons). These were confirmed by someone at the Open Day.

There was a fake rumour that added to these facts and added way more specifics, but it was fake.

The "blip system" is a real thing though, we just know very little about it. From people who were actually there:

  • The new ambush rules... complete overhaul. Blip markers and stuff.
  • We’ll have a weird “blip” system for deployment, like motion detector marks, where we can choose which is what unit when we reveal them (not necessarily on the first turn).
  • If you have first turn you can decide your layout after deployment, if it’s your opponents turn first you just leave a lot of them as blip markers.
  • Sounds fundamentally different in almost every way.
  • Couple more minor things: the units marked by a blip are not subject to moving with heavy weapons penalties when they appear.
  • The Nexos lets you move the blip markers around
  • The [special edition] codex comes with blip markers

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    Grey Knights: 2500pts
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    Working on it

    Oh okay, thanks for clearing that up, depending on the specifics I think it can be quite strong. Imagine casually strolling 3 blips up, then bam, 60 shotgun neophytes.

    I wonder if unit size will have anything to do with it

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    Vectorium of the Thrice-Plagued ~3000pts
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    Couple questions:

    1. Do we know how many blips we get? I read something about "1 for every unit in ambush + 1 for every 2 units (to have redundancy for fake blips)". Is this correct or part of the false rumours?

    2. When do we reveal the unit behind the blip? When the enemy comes within x inches and do we have to reveal every blip on our first turn?

    3. Can our units move after they are revealed? If we assume the blip has to be placed at least more than 9" away from enemy units then our ambushing Acolytes etc. will face some pretty bad charge chances...
       
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     Causalis wrote:
    Couple questions:

    1. Do we know how many blips we get? I read something about "1 for every unit in ambush + 1 for every 2 units (to have redundancy for fake blips)". Is this correct or part of the false rumours?
    That's from the fake rumours sadly.

     Causalis wrote:
    2. When do we reveal the unit behind the blip? When the enemy comes within x inches and do we have to reveal every blip on our first turn?
    We don't know yet. All we know about stuff related to that is:

    "We can choose which is what unit when we reveal them (not necessarily on the first turn). If you have first turn you can decide your layout after deployment, if it’s your opponents turn first you just leave a lot of them as blip markers."

     Causalis wrote:
    3. Can our units move after they are revealed? If we assume the blip has to be placed at least more than 9" away from enemy units then our ambushing Acolytes etc. will face some pretty bad charge chances...
    Apparently we don't count as having moved for the purposes of firing heavy weapons. That sounds like "end of the movement phase" talk to me (as otherwise if you had the option to move, this wouldn't really need to be stated, as whether you're penalised or not depends on whether you choose to move).

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    Grey Knights: 2500pts
    Daemons: 250pts
    Orks: 500pts Dark Eldar: 400pts
     
       
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    Working on it

    Hmm, I wonder if the blips have to be out of line of sight?

    Say for example you have a blip in your backfield, and something like a Helverin can see and shoot it. Does it get revealed then?

    I know we don't have the answers for these questions, but i'm curious none the less

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    I’m wary of these blip rumors. While thematically I love the throwback reference to space hulk, and it lends itself immediately to some quick, relatively easy, and amazingly cool conversions, I think it has the power to be either very good or very turn dependent like the old alpha legion infiltrate. Going first? Awesome! Not going first? Hurtful. I can just see gungline armies running up and exposing whatever unit is there and then that unit just getting shot to all hell.

    Not really the “we’ve been planning this revolution for 200 years” kind of feel IMO. But to be fair, it could work and I hope to the sweet baby Jesus that these bikes work. Also that the cult chimera goes down in cost to mirror the IG one

    Edit: I also already know that this is going to be my big project army for 2019. There’s a decent chance that I’ll use the robotic ambulls as aberrrants.....so that’s a chunk of change right there if I run the 20 aberrants that I’m likely to run

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    I thought the Ambull and robots were a bit smaller than a dread, rather than Aberrant/roughly marine size?
       
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    Danny76 wrote:
    I thought the Ambull and robots were a bit smaller than a dread, rather than Aberrant/roughly marine size?


    The Ambots are on 40mm bases.
       
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    Blips sounds clunky. Although it sounds like a hilarious way to null deploy my Eldar-playing friend who regularly deploys barely anything. Shadowboxing isn’t fun.

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    changemod wrote:
    zamerion wrote:
    https://spikeybits.com/2019/01/gsc-codex-fake-rumors-new-teasers-spotted.html

    Said there is a new genestealer kit...

    I think he could refer to the genetealers family kit mentioned here.


    If they had a new purestrains kit, why would tooth and claw contain purestrains?


    Because the theoretical new kit wasn't out yet? What? You think they would decide "oh let's not sell these models because replacement is coming 6 years later when this limited time boxed set is already OOP". Yeah right. If anything that's even MORE of reason to put them in. Sell excess stock and then when new kit comes not that insignificant % of those who bought old ones would buy new ones if they are better ones.

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     Yodhrin wrote:
    It would make fantastic sense, to them, because it would let them clear out loads of back-stock of the old kit before releasing a new one.


    Do they do this? Or do they just grind the sprues down for feedstock?
       
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    We'll find out soon enough eh.

     AndrewGPaul wrote:
     Yodhrin wrote:
    It would make fantastic sense, to them, because it would let them clear out loads of back-stock of the old kit before releasing a new one.


    Do they do this? Or do they just grind the sprues down for feedstock?


    It makes sense to do both surely. Even at a steep discount they'd still make far more money from such ancient plastic kits(which would have paid off their development cost years & years ago) than they would save by clearing out the storage space and grinding them down, which is only partially efficient. I'm not saying that's what happened, just that it's not implausible as was suggested.

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    I suppose it depends if they've also got the boxes printed. Or, as in this case, another box to put 'em in.
       
     
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