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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 17:12:17
Subject: Genestealer Cult Bikers!
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Terrifying Doombull
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The old genestealer cults didn't work with chaos cults, they were explicitly chaos cults. Which is why that patriarch has his butt parked on an 8 pointed star.
Decadence and limos don't really fit the theme for modern GSC. If someone wants it, it can be done via guard models and conversions. But the cult model line doesn't go that way, and neither do the new models or fiction. They're firmly in the worker caste, and they even had that vigilus fiction piece with the Gunslinger as a popular folk hero.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 17:28:09
Subject: Genestealer Cult Bikers!
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Cephalobeard wrote:A hope we don't see a limo, personally. The current GSC theme seems to very much be a subterranean mining colony, waiting for their moment to rebel.
I like all the grungy suits and mining equipment, feels more realistic and less silly.
While I'm with you in hoping that we don't see a limo, I could see a place for it when the Cultists have taken over the fatcats' motor pool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 18:18:27
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult Bikers!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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New art from the 0:18 sec pre-trailer. Loving it.
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Blood Angels, Custodes, Tzeentch, Alpha Legion, Astra Militarum, Deathwatch, Thousand Sons, Imperial Knights, Tau, Genestealer Cult.
I have a problem.
Being contrary for the sake of being contrary doesn't make you unique, it makes you annoying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 18:20:08
Subject: Genestealer Cult Bikers!
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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More variety isn't bad. You don't have to buy a limo if one is released.
That said, the old GSC was just tongue and cheek and very much parody. The fat patriarch with whispering magus is clearly a rip on the Return of the Jedi which came out at that time. It's clear as day that's a Jabba the Hut, Bib Fortuna rip. That's after GW ripped on Gigers Alien. I am glad they are taking it into their own lore now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 18:22:25
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Updated topic title so it can be used as a general N&R topic for the upcoming GSC releases.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 18:23:02
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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BrookM wrote:Updated topic title so it can be used as a general N&R topic for the upcoming GSC releases.
best mod 2019
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Blood Angels, Custodes, Tzeentch, Alpha Legion, Astra Militarum, Deathwatch, Thousand Sons, Imperial Knights, Tau, Genestealer Cult.
I have a problem.
Being contrary for the sake of being contrary doesn't make you unique, it makes you annoying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 18:23:40
Subject: Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Man, I am getting hyped. Gona need to wrap up my necron projects before this release or they will hit the back burner again lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 18:24:49
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Ehhhhhhhhh, according to reviews of other members, I am beyond the bottom of the barrel.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 18:28:49
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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BrookM wrote:Ehhhhhhhhh, according to reviews of other members, I am beyond the bottom of the barrel.
We're on Dakka, my friend. Everything is bottom of the barrel.
Born in the dark, molded by it.
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Blood Angels, Custodes, Tzeentch, Alpha Legion, Astra Militarum, Deathwatch, Thousand Sons, Imperial Knights, Tau, Genestealer Cult.
I have a problem.
Being contrary for the sake of being contrary doesn't make you unique, it makes you annoying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 18:50:22
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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That's a female Magus in the trailer, isn't it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 18:51:27
Subject: Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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I wasn't even aware this was a barrel. It's so dark and fetid, I just assumed this was some kind of swamp cave.
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 18:53:40
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult Bikers!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Well I was just working on a female Magus with the plan to use one of those new Escher heads, that plan is on hold now.
Can't wait for tomorrow!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 18:54:23
Subject: Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Sadly the Patriarch is now too large for a (cool looking) limo,
but that doesn't mean the cult shouldn't have one for the Magus who I peg as this generations skeezy plotting one
(unlike the primus who's probably going to want something more shooty or more able to blend in depending on the mission)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 18:58:35
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I super hope so. Would love to have my Magus models all be female.
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Blood Angels, Custodes, Tzeentch, Alpha Legion, Astra Militarum, Deathwatch, Thousand Sons, Imperial Knights, Tau, Genestealer Cult.
I have a problem.
Being contrary for the sake of being contrary doesn't make you unique, it makes you annoying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 19:04:52
Subject: Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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I think the patriarch shown in the trailer is a massive statue made in its benevolent likeness.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 19:10:05
Subject: Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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For the four armed emperor! Also female magus hype! Let it be true!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 19:19:40
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Courageous Beastmaster
Australia
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Nicked these from Spikey Bits. Looks to be some kind of planner or strategist for the GSC. Uses a holographic map to call in arty strikes perhaps? Or plan where to ambush? Interesting though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 19:22:35
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Fenriswulf wrote:Nicked these from Spikey Bits. Looks to be some kind of planner or strategist for the GSC. Uses a holographic map to call in arty strikes perhaps? Or plan where to ambush? Interesting though.
Not sure why you've got it from Spikey Bitz when it's on Warhammer Community and has been for months.
I think there's only two kits from the new GSC release where they haven't already shown the miniatures, and they're getting shown or teased tomorrow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 19:33:15
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ben2 wrote: Fenriswulf wrote:Nicked these from Spikey Bits. Looks to be some kind of planner or strategist for the GSC. Uses a holographic map to call in arty strikes perhaps? Or plan where to ambush? Interesting though.
Not sure why you've got it from Spikey Bitz when it's on Warhammer Community and has been for months.
I think there's only two kits from the new GSC release where they haven't already shown the miniatures, and they're getting shown or teased tomorrow.
Female magus and??
New ragged mutants or a big patriarch?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 19:39:12
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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They infiltrate at different levels in different cultures. They will not be miners on every planet, nor would they have access to limos on every planet. The more options the better
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 19:39:17
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Fenriswulf wrote:Nicked these from Spikey Bits. Looks to be some kind of planner or strategist for the GSC. Uses a holographic map to call in arty strikes perhaps? Or plan where to ambush? Interesting though.
It's a nice modell. According to earlier information it is going to be Warhammer World exclusive though. The building to be invaded is the WHW in Nottingham - so this is most likely not for general release.
I cannot wait for the new models and Codex book. Excellent stuff so far. GSC will be my next army to be fully expanded and played in 8th Edition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 19:52:33
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Stealthy Sanctus Slipping in His Blade
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Warhams-77 wrote: Fenriswulf wrote:Nicked these from Spikey Bits. Looks to be some kind of planner or strategist for the GSC. Uses a holographic map to call in arty strikes perhaps? Or plan where to ambush? Interesting though.
It's a nice modell. According to earlier information it is going to be Warhammer World exclusive though. The building to be invaded is the WHW in Nottingham - so this is most likely not for general release.
I cannot wait for the new models and Codex book. Excellent stuff so far. GSC will be my next army to be fully expanded and played in 8th Edition.
Can you show where that was said? That would be disappointing if he was a new unit and only available at WHW.
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PourSpelur wrote:It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't. Hive Fleet Hercual - 6760pts
Hazaak Dynasty - 3400 pts
Seraphon - 4600pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 20:13:23
Subject: Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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The map depicts WHW but I’ve never heard it to be WHW exclusive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 20:16:50
Subject: Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Terrifying Doombull
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Same. Its popped up in several Warhammer Community articles, most recently the 'Top 5 in 2019' here:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/01/1st-dec-the-top-5-things-to-look-forward-to-in-2019gw-homepage-post-3/
Its pictured with the bikes and is part of the 'second wave' mention. The fact that the map is based on warhammer world is just an easter egg
(I would hope the abominant and the abominations kit from tooth and claw would also start being sold separately at this point)
Also the gunslinger, shown off at the Vigilis thing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 20:17:40
Subject: Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Wow, those bikers are awesome looking.
I predict UTTERLY WORTHLESS RULES.
It's got everything going against it: Neophyte based close combat weapons means it'll probably be 2 WS4+ attacks slinging some sort of crazy 15-point power weapon. Fast unit with no armor on a bike that doesn't have a ton of armor means it'll probably be W2 T4 5+sv and at least 10-15 points, meaning it'll get mowed down by the ridiculous number of D2 attacks currently in the game just waiting for a juicy target like them. Also, hey, GSC players, who uses the fast-moving close combat options present in your army list when the whole list just derpstrikes everything and wins/loses based on the charge rolls turn 2? Nobody?
Then you've got two other weapon options that will most likely be Heavy on a platform that pays a premium to be mobile...and one of them is a Sniper weapon in 8th ed 40k.
I'm holding out hope that they might get it right with the quad, giving it a "stable platform" move and fire heavy rule and a wound profile not commonly on available weaponry like W4. Ideal statline would be W4 T4 4+ M10" with move and fire heavy for a reasonable price, and have it be its own unit and NOT a "for every 5 bikers you can have 1 quad" add-on. Because oh boy I would not want to randomly stick 24" range heavy anti tank weapons into what is either a longrange stationary sniper unit or a fast melee unit.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 20:17:50
Subject: Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Yeah, it being a WHW exclusive was mentioned on here when it was first shown too but I don’t remember an official source for that being mentioned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 20:22:32
Subject: Genestealer Cult Bikers!
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Cephalobeard wrote:A hope we don't see a limo, personally. The current GSC theme seems to very much be a subterranean mining colony, waiting for their moment to rebel.
I like all the grungy suits and mining equipment, feels more realistic and less silly.
Other than the addition of shoulder-mounted flashlights, the current Hybrid design is almost identical to that of the original models, both in terms of overall look and small details. Some of the new weaponry and the Goliath are mining themed, of course.
It's still crazy to me that GCults are supported and are about to be expanded. Ten years ago when I took my Cult to the final Baltimore GT, most people I chatted with didn't know what a Genestealer Cult was. They had nearly been erased from the background. Automatically Appended Next Post: the_scotsman wrote:Wow, those bikers are awesome looking.
I predict UTTERLY WORTHLESS RULES.
It's got everything going against it: Neophyte based close combat weapons means it'll probably be 2 WS4+ attacks slinging some sort of crazy 15-point power weapon. Fast unit with no armor on a bike that doesn't have a ton of armor means it'll probably be W2 T4 5+ sv and at least 10-15 points, meaning it'll get mowed down by the ridiculous number of D2 attacks currently in the game just waiting for a juicy target like them. Also, hey, GSC players, who uses the fast-moving close combat options present in your army list when the whole list just derpstrikes everything and wins/loses based on the charge rolls turn 2? Nobody?
I tend to think they won't be very useful unless they're very cheap. But I think it's possible that Cult Ambush will see some changes, and that the army's playstyle will become more flexible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 20:33:27
Subject: Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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God I hope so. I like to use my GSC as a relatively TAC style army, and I'd love to see models in Goliaths, neophytes amushing in to shoot, Rockgrinders and Sentinels providing mixed fire support/melee, and bikers giving mobility and board control alongside the suicide melee elements. Currently, the melee infantry is just too massively glass cannon to ever function in that kind of a role. Hybrids and Aberrants are about half as durable as they look like they should be, and to compensate they just dish out crazy amounts of damage.
Win or lose, GSC means you play a 2-turn game. and that really kills my enthusiasm for an army that I love the character of.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 21:43:24
Subject: Genestealer Cult Bikers!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Cephalobeard wrote:A hope we don't see a limo, personally. The current GSC theme seems to very much be a subterranean mining colony, waiting for their moment to rebel.
I like all the grungy suits and mining equipment, feels more realistic and less silly.
I can see a limo fitting in, as mine owners who are in charge, like a hybrid Murray Energy Exec.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/01/04 21:58:23
Subject: Re:Genestealer Cult news & rumours
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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monkeytroll wrote:They infiltrate at different levels in different cultures. They will not be miners on every planet, nor would they have access to limos on every planet. The more options the better
This!
On Arakis the GSC would be spice miners.
On Nuceria (Angron’s homeworld) they probably be pit fighters.
And on tatooine they’d be moisture farmers. But on tatooine, who controls all the scum & villany?
(See what I did there?  )
I’m not saying the rebrand of the cults as workers is bad, I just think they should have the option of a limo. A fast, glass, troop transport / character skimmer vehicle. A dual kit would be fine, one option is a pickup truck type transport, the other is a more fancy character limo, similar to the original concept models.
If GW won’t make one, my intention is to build one using an ork dragsta (PIMPED of course), with a magus in it, as a Tervigon. Then ,dwarf neophytes will pop out and shoot enemies (termegaunts). It won’t be fast, but hey, it would work.
As for the fat patriarch, I think it would be fun to have, but not necessary. Though I would love it if the patriarch was a bit more distinguished from a brood lord, as they’re even in almost the same pose currently.
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