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 MrMoustaffa wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
They've done German and French guard, so British?

Not praetorians in plastic would probably do well, given that all the plastic historical offerings for British infantry are way too skinny for 40k use to my knowledge.

It could be mordians/praetorians hybrid, all they have to do is include two different kinds of heads, which they seem more than capable of. Sword looks decent, here's hoping they fix the special weapons

Hopefully the kit will include shanko hats as well, because who doesn't want to recreate Sharpe in space!

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
They've done German and French guard, so British?

Not praetorians in plastic would probably do well, given that all the plastic historical offerings for British infantry are way too skinny for 40k use to my knowledge.

It could be mordians/praetorians hybrid, all they have to do is include two different kinds of heads, which they seem more than capable of. Sword looks decent, here's hoping they fix the special weapons

If you have suggestions on what you would want changed, I could pass them along

I think the desire was for the weapons to be much more idenifiyable with a gw equivalent (and less thin/fragile)

I'm surprised nobody is asking for plastic Roman themed Guard. But, I suppose plastic representations of the classic Guard regiments comes first.

Which regiment was made entirely of commissars? The Terrax Guard? I want those or the greatcoat guard from that old pencil drawing.

If they're looking for suggestions on what to make in upcoming releases, if they ever made either of these guys, I reckon I'd open up my wallet and throw every last dollar at them

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I think the desire was for the weapons to be much more idenifiyable with a gw equivalent (and less thin/fragile)

Having things that are an obvious analogue of flamer, plasma guns and melta guns is probably a good idea since many people will want to make 40k guardsmen out of these. But honestly, I just want the weapons to look good. Some of the weapons on these space grognard guys don't look very good.

Hi all -

I received the same free sprue that alphaecho did and posted pics of (see below).
While grateful to Wargames Atlantic for their generosity, the minis aren't quite what I need so I'm happy to send it to whomever PM's me first with their address.

alphaecho wrote:


I received my sprues this morning (UK). Images are below. Shame, but for me at least, my sprues only included the Adrian helmets with gas masks. No Napoleonic Old Guard heads for me.











The castings are nice and crisp. The sprues I have include a chainsword and pistol options, a scabbarded sword, three backpacks, three special weapons (grenade launcher, flamer, melta type?) and a heavy weapon (heavy bolter/ plasma type?).

There are three rifles with hands moulded on but as you can see from the sprues there are plenty of left arms with hands attached as well as the three specific ones with no hands to go with the rifles.

At the very least I will end up with plenty of hands to glue onto the GW Renegade Guardsmen to create the Sons Of Sek!

I may have to order at least one full box from Atlantic if only to obtain some Old Guard heads.

Enjoy!

Art by Peter Dennis for the upcoming ww1 German infantry box




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Also news on the full release of Persians and grognards

Chinese new year is definitely a mad dash atm

So I got my personal sprues of Grogs in, and did a minor kitbash. I think they look quite good.

For those thinking that the triangular bayonet is large I have one thing to say:

1. This seems to be a perspective issue in photographs. In person they are proportional to the rifles. They also match up to what a period triangular bayonet would be, although slightly bigger to allow for the mould to firm properly I suspect.

The arms are well done, and there is a clear endpoint to the cuff/hand join, which will allow for quite a lot of relatively easy converting with a hobby knife and plastic glue.

News update:

Grognards are in the Warehouses and available to order.

Persians have been delayed due to Chinese New year and will most likely be shipping to the warehouses (all 4) just past February 10th.

The dark age Irish and afghans should be shipping to the warehouses at the same time as the Persians, so we are getting a triple threat release mis February

After that, the factory will work on production of the WW1 Germans.

The design team is currently working on new sets for the various ranges.

I have to say I am quite perplexed why the Grognards are not made in the same scale than GW humans. Now other manufacturers are of course free to use whatever scale they want. but let's not kid ourselves here, the main market for these is being used as IG stand ins for 40K.

 Crimson wrote:
I have to say I am quite perplexed why the Grognards are not made in the same scale than GW humans. Now other manufacturers are of course free to use whatever scale they want. but let's not kid ourselves here, the main market for these is being used as IG stand ins for 40K.

The boxes say "28mm". That probably ends up being about the same size as GW figures, but properly (non-heroicly) proportioned.

Especially if you factor in the continuing Space Marine scale creep.

 Crimson wrote:
I have to say I am quite perplexed why the Grognards are not made in the same scale than GW humans. Now other manufacturers are of course free to use whatever scale they want. but let's not kid ourselves here, the main market for these is being used as IG stand ins for 40K.

I don't understand what you mean. They look perfectly fine next to cadians

 lord marcus wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I have to say I am quite perplexed why the Grognards are not made in the same scale than GW humans. Now other manufacturers are of course free to use whatever scale they want. but let's not kid ourselves here, the main market for these is being used as IG stand ins for 40K.

I don't understand what you mean. They look perfectly fine next to cadians

According the pic on the previous page, they're quite a bit smaller.

Yeah, but he's perfectly to scale with the Solar Auxilia lad, so it's just another case of cadian chunkiness


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GW's figures are chunky as, these are more comparable to Forgeworld or other 3rd party makers like Victoria Miniatures, and to a lesser degree Anvil industry.

Yeah, I would expect they are similar in size to Death Korps, which I think is one of the closest style miniatures they are seeking to emulate.

Their first plastics, the Raumsjagers (?), were a much closer match to Cadians.

I guess they're playing the field then, making miniatures that can proxy for one or the other, take your pick.

I am actually interested to see how their WW1 plastics pan out, and how modifiable they might be, even at historical scale, to make Imperial Guard from.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I guess they're playing the field then, making miniatures that can proxy for one or the other, take your pick.

I am actually interested to see how their WW1 plastics pan out, and how modifiable they might be, even at historical scale, to make Imperial Guard from.

Honestly, my plan is to take gasmask heads from the WW1 set and put them onto the grognard bodies

 lord marcus wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
They've done German and French guard, so British?

Not praetorians in plastic would probably do well, given that all the plastic historical offerings for British infantry are way too skinny for 40k use to my knowledge.

It could be mordians/praetorians hybrid, all they have to do is include two different kinds of heads, which they seem more than capable of. Sword looks decent, here's hoping they fix the special weapons

If you have suggestions on what you would want changed, I could pass them along

Honestly looking at them again the only complaint I have is the "melta" and the pistol. They both have kind of blocky looks to them, which I worry painted up are just going to look like a hunk of metal in their hand. As opposed to the rifle and grenade launcher which have nice wires and details, or the plasma cannon with its defined ridges. I feel that gives them more details to pop at tabletop distance, wheras painting the pistol and melta I really wouldn't have a lot of details to pick up on and break it up. I especially like the rifles, I think they did a good job there. I post on my phone a lot, so it was hard to see at the time the details the grenade launcher, flamer, and plasma had.

I actually plan on getting a box to fool around with at some point, overall I think they're pretty nice looking for the money, especially with all the head options. If I was to offer a main piece of advice, I'd say take these historical inspirations and really run with them as much as possible. The rifle is a great example, you can tell it's a sci fi Mas 49, looks great and fits the theme in my opinion. Stuff like that I think is the right direction, which to be fair both of your kits so far seem to make an effort to do. It wouldve been cool to see say a plasma Chauchat for example, but I also understand that there really isn't an equivalent for something like a melta gun. I also must say those are some very good looking greatcoats for plastic, I wasn't expecting someone to pull off that kind of coat, especially on a fairly cheap kit.

Do you plan on doing any crew based weapons or command squad boxes for any of these lines, or just sticking to single infantry boxes?

 lord marcus wrote:

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I guess they're playing the field then, making miniatures that can proxy for one or the other, take your pick.

I am actually interested to see how their WW1 plastics pan out, and how modifiable they might be, even at historical scale, to make Imperial Guard from.

Honestly, my plan is to take gasmask heads from the WW1 set and put them onto the grognard bodies

Why not use the Adrian helmet + gas mask heads from the grognard box, not German enough?

MrMoustaffa wrote:

 lord marcus wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
They've done German and French guard, so British?

Not praetorians in plastic would probably do well, given that all the plastic historical offerings for British infantry are way too skinny for 40k use to my knowledge.

It could be mordians/praetorians hybrid, all they have to do is include two different kinds of heads, which they seem more than capable of. Sword looks decent, here's hoping they fix the special weapons

If you have suggestions on what you would want changed, I could pass them along

Honestly looking at them again the only complaint I have is the "melta" and the pistol. They both have kind of blocky looks to them, which I worry painted up are just going to look like a hunk of metal in their hand. As opposed to the rifle and grenade launcher which have nice wires and details, or the plasma cannon with its defined ridges. I feel that gives them more details to pop at tabletop distance, wheras painting the pistol and melta I really wouldn't have a lot of details to pick up on and break it up. I especially like the rifles, I think they did a good job there. I post on my phone a lot, so it was hard to see at the time the details the grenade launcher, flamer, and plasma had.

I actually plan on getting a box to fool around with at some point, overall I think they're pretty nice looking for the money, especially with all the head options. If I was to offer a main piece of advice, I'd say take these historical inspirations and really run with them as much as possible. The rifle is a great example, you can tell it's a sci fi Mas 49, looks great and fits the theme in my opinion. Stuff like that I think is the right direction, which to be fair both of your kits so far seem to make an effort to do. It wouldve been cool to see say a plasma Chauchat for example, but I also understand that there really isn't an equivalent for something like a melta gun. I also must say those are some very good looking greatcoats for plastic, I wasn't expecting someone to pull off that kind of coat, especially on a fairly cheap kit.

Do you plan on doing any crew based weapons or command squad boxes for any of these lines, or just sticking to single infantry boxes?

I'l

Thank you very much. I'll get your comments and questions forwarded up the chain as I currently don't have an answer.

Esmer wrote:

 lord marcus wrote:

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I guess they're playing the field then, making miniatures that can proxy for one or the other, take your pick.

I am actually interested to see how their WW1 plastics pan out, and how modifiable they might be, even at historical scale, to make Imperial Guard from.

Honestly, my plan is to take gasmask heads from the WW1 set and put them onto the grognard bodies

Why not use the Adrian helmet + gas mask heads from the grognard box, not German enough?

Mainly personal preference. I have other uses planned for the Adrian helmets. The more German look could Sub in as death korps conscripts.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Their first plastics, the Raumsjagers (?), were a much closer match to Cadians.

Remeber Bob, the Raumsjagers are wearing big baggy smocks with body armour and mag pouches over the top, the Grognards are a bit sleeker in their pinned back great coats

I really just want some dudes who have legwraps from their knees to their shoes, and I can't seem to find any available outside of Death Korps guys.

That, and I am really inspired by 1917 to make a themed trench fighter force. I'd love some in the leather jerkins the soldiers were given at the time, much like the ones worn by the main characters in the movie. Oh and of course, brodie hats with gasmasks.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I really just want some dudes who have legwraps from their knees to their shoes, and I can't seem to find any available outside of Death Korps guys.

That, and I am really inspired by 1917 to make a themed trench fighter force. I'd love some in the leather jerkins the soldiers were given at the time, much like the ones worn by the main characters in the movie. Oh and of course, brodie hats with gasmasks.

This is is just a suggestion, but the gripping beast Vikings as well as some of the Saxons wear winnegas.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I really just want some dudes who have legwraps from their knees to their shoes, and I can't seem to find any available outside of Death Korps guys.

That, and I am really inspired by 1917 to make a themed trench fighter force. I'd love some in the leather jerkins the soldiers were given at the time, much like the ones worn by the main characters in the movie. Oh and of course, brodie hats with gasmasks.

Perry Northwest Frontier British could be suitable but legs and torso are one piece and they may not scale well with 'heroic' minis.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I really just want some dudes who have legwraps from their knees to their shoes, and I can't seem to find any available outside of Death Korps guys.

That, and I am really inspired by 1917 to make a themed trench fighter force. I'd love some in the leather jerkins the soldiers were given at the time, much like the ones worn by the main characters in the movie. Oh and of course, brodie hats with gasmasks.

Try Anvil Industries Regiments line.

Dark Age Irish will be out in time for St. Patty's day.