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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That’s still you, that is.

Really dude? It's selling out everywhere, sometimes within minutes, and you're going to insult people over it?

There will be more, because ether are people that didn’t get to buy it and GW aren’t going to miss the opportunity to sell it to them (me). We will have to wait a bit and I have lots of minis to paint.

However I’d like to know how many people bought 3 boxes with the intention of selling 2 of them. I have already seen that you can pre order one of the armies form the boxes set on eBay at more than the half the price of the box.

Why wasn’t it one per household during the pre order phase

daisy666 wrote:
This certainly was worse than the Shadow War Armageddon launch, which was as bad as I've ever seen.

I dunno if it's worse than that release. I had to show up at GW on the day to get a copy of that, and the flagship store for my entire country was allotted, wait for it, 4 whole copies!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That’s still you, that is.

Really dude? It's selling out everywhere, sometimes within minutes, and you're going to insult people over it?

Well, selling out within minutes, hours or days is better than having produced a non-seller.
As a long-term Necron player attending several tournies in the 6th and 7th, I will not jump on this ''bandwagon'' and wait and see what Necron units are useful to integrate into a competitive Necron list.
The rule book is also not mandatory as our gaming group will have one.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'd say that the community hyping themselves into yet another frenzy of "THESE THINGS WON'T BE AVAILABLE ANYWHERE ELSE EVER!" and "OMFG THESE THINGS ARE BROKEN!" did the job better than GW ever could have.

And as usual, you blame the players in your desperate attempts to defend poor GW.

 wuestenfux wrote:

The rule book is also not mandatory as our gaming group will have one.

Chapter Approved includes a small-format spiral-bound copy of the rules that is vastly better for gaming anyway.

The limited edition book is very poor compared to dark imperium. No extras at all, just the same book with a different cover. Odd

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That’s still you, that is.

Really dude? It's selling out everywhere, sometimes within minutes, and you're going to insult people over it?

Its because he wouldnt let it lie and may well be a workshy fop

Wow, I admit I was wrong. Sold out FAR quicker than I expected.

It truly amazes people are defending GW still. As if the fact it's now in the hands of ebay scalpers is a good thing. It's not. Poor little old GW arent some start up that have been caught unaware by the demand for their new product. They purposefully under produced this box to gurantee maximum sales with minimum loss. Theyve been hyping it for over a month and it sells out in 14 minutes it's all part of their plan. Its cynical and anti consumer and it's why I didnt even try to purchase this box. It's a disgrace.

 Asmodai wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

The rule book is also not mandatory as our gaming group will have one.

Chapter Approved includes a small-format spiral-bound copy of the rules that is vastly better for gaming anyway.

Thanks good to know. Seems like a solid investment.

I too misjudged GW's marketing strategy for indomitus it seems. I now think the first run was deliberately kept to a modest quantity as to gauge interest. The "real" production run of indomitus is underway, and the bigger wave will follow late august. Good old bait and switch. If someone was on the fence about buying the box, they'll be buying it in august for sure now as they missed out on the first wave.

Pretty clever innit

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'd say that the community hyping themselves into yet another frenzy of "THESE THINGS WON'T BE AVAILABLE ANYWHERE ELSE EVER!" and "OMFG THESE THINGS ARE BROKEN!" did the job better than GW ever could have.

And as usual, you blame the players in your desperate attempts to defend poor GW.

Please show me where I'm actually wrong though.

Because we've done this dance time and time again with starters for 40k and AoS. It's always that the players getting themselves hyped up about how they "need" to make a whole army out of the newest things.

Wayland games on its preorder page stated that some people would not receive their order until late August when the second wave would drop

 Kanluwen wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'd say that the community hyping themselves into yet another frenzy of "THESE THINGS WON'T BE AVAILABLE ANYWHERE ELSE EVER!" and "OMFG THESE THINGS ARE BROKEN!" did the job better than GW ever could have.

And as usual, you blame the players in your desperate attempts to defend poor GW.

Please show me where I'm actually wrong though.

Because we've done this dance time and time again with starters for 40k and AoS. It's always that the players getting themselves hyped up about how they "need" to make a whole army out of the newest things.

Sounds familiar enough. Just like people already moaning that they "have to" spend 4x12 GBP / year for the upcoming app

Given that the core rules of 9th are free and just about everyone on this board already has a 40K army (or several), I have a hard time understanding how missing out on the indomitus box would prevent anyone from playing..

 Kanluwen wrote:

Because we've done this dance time and time again with starters for 40k and AoS. It's always that the players getting themselves hyped up about how they "need" to make a whole army out of the newest things.

Thing is, it's GW who made that situation with their tight control of information, putting doubt in what will come next and putting the emphasis of limited stocks for their launch box in their news.

Who is guilty, the hunter setting up the trap or the fox falling to it ? Pretty much the same dilemna.

You're obviously blaming the fox.

The funny thing is that if GW didn't say anything about boxes being limited, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have sold out as fast. Some rumors said the number of boxes were set to those sold in the two month when Dark Imperium was live.

Of course people would rush to pre-order several boxes once confirmation is made they wouldn't be available for the duration of V9 edition. And of course we would have Ebay carrions taking advantage of this.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'd say that the community hyping themselves into yet another frenzy of "THESE THINGS WON'T BE AVAILABLE ANYWHERE ELSE EVER!" and "OMFG THESE THINGS ARE BROKEN!" did the job better than GW ever could have.

And as usual, you blame the players in your desperate attempts to defend poor GW.

Please show me where I'm actually wrong though.

Because we've done this dance time and time again with starters for 40k and AoS. It's always that the players getting themselves hyped up about how they "need" to make a whole army out of the newest things.

Yes. GW certainly had no hand in hyping up their products.

Sarouan wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Because we've done this dance time and time again with starters for 40k and AoS. It's always that the players getting themselves hyped up about how they "need" to make a whole army out of the newest things.

Thing is, it's GW who made that with their tight control of information, putting doubt in what will come next and putting the emphasis of limited stocks for their launch box in their news.

Who is guilty, the hunter setting up the trap or the fox falling to it ? Pretty much the same dilemna.

You're obviously blaming the fox.

You are implying that humans eat miniatures for sustenance? Cute

Anyways, I'm out of here. Got nothing more to add

 Knockagh wrote:
The limited edition book is very poor compared to dark imperium. No extras at all, just the same book with a different cover. Odd

Don't forget gold gilded edges and a "antique map with cracked varnish, creating the effect of an ancient chart."

Lovely looking book to be sure, but I wouldn't be taking it with me outside of the house.

tauist wrote:


You are implying that humans eat miniatures for sustenance? Cute

You're voluntarily missing the point, so that you don't try to think about it. You know what I really meant here.

Popped to my local store this morning and offered a deposit for my boxes. They declined as they would rather have physical possession of the boxes before charging.

Won't lie, got me a bit concerned.

It's a heck of a deal even if they are push fit models. Rule book and close to 2000 (9th edition) points for a ton, boom.

Simple Simon wrote:
Popped to my local store this morning and offered a deposit for my boxes. They declined as they would rather have physical possession of the boxes before charging.

Won't lie, got me a bit concerned.

It's a heck of a deal even if they are push fit models. Rule book and close to 2000 (9th edition) points for a ton, boom.

I am sure I recall GW saying that once they sell, they are gone. It sold out on the GW store for pre-orders in under 35 minutes.
The website crashed several times in that time too.

I have a copy on order with my FLGS and they confirmed they have been given their quota so I should have a box.

I know several stores orders have been cut back and GW have told shops to not promise copies they aren't definitely getting:
https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2020/07/warhammer-40k-indomitus-sold-out.html

stratigo wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'd say that the community hyping themselves into yet another frenzy of "THESE THINGS WON'T BE AVAILABLE ANYWHERE ELSE EVER!" and "OMFG THESE THINGS ARE BROKEN!" did the job better than GW ever could have.

And as usual, you blame the players in your desperate attempts to defend poor GW.

Please show me where I'm actually wrong though.

Because we've done this dance time and time again with starters for 40k and AoS. It's always that the players getting themselves hyped up about how they "need" to make a whole army out of the newest things.

Yes. GW certainly had no hand in hyping up their products.

Nope. Everyone imagined the daily articles, the 'best ever box set,' 'we made lots,' the preorder limits changing (due to the in-depth research conducted....overnight) from 6 to 3 so they could explain vital importance of preordering right now, etc, etc.

Yes, once Indomitus sells through--it's gone.

The models within aren't though. They made it sound like there's an actual starter set coming down the road.

GW said they are making one batch of stock and once that is sold its gone. Now it might be that from that batch they are splitting it into two or more production/packing waves.

It might also be that they've not put up all the stock for sale in one go and are teasing it out a bit. Or that they are expecting to get "stock back" in the form of regional stock getting reallocated from places that didn't sell out. etc....


In general though once the stock is gone its gone; we just have no idea how much they started with nor how much has been sold.

Well, I know those guys from our gaming group eager to get a shiny new boxed set.
Some of them promised to start a Necron army. This sounds more like a threat.
Most of them have no idea how to play any army out there in the 40k universe.
Rant over.
I can wait for the Necron unit when they are regularly released.
My motto here is: Stay cool and delay.

 Overread wrote:
GW said they are making one batch of stock and once that is sold its gone. Now it might be that from that batch they are splitting it into two or more production/packing waves.

It might also be that they've not put up all the stock for sale in one go and are teasing it out a bit. Or that they are expecting to get "stock back" in the form of regional stock getting reallocated from places that didn't sell out. etc....


In general though once the stock is gone its gone; we just have no idea how much they started with nor how much has been sold.

And GW..... lies. And right now they are pushing "BUY NOW! DON'T THINK! JUST BUY! NOW!".

stratigo wrote:

 Overread wrote:
GW said they are making one batch of stock and once that is sold its gone. Now it might be that from that batch they are splitting it into two or more production/packing waves.

It might also be that they've not put up all the stock for sale in one go and are teasing it out a bit. Or that they are expecting to get "stock back" in the form of regional stock getting reallocated from places that didn't sell out. etc....


In general though once the stock is gone its gone; we just have no idea how much they started with nor how much has been sold.

And GW..... lies. And right now they are pushing "BUY NOW! DON'T THINK! JUST BUY! NOW!".

How are they telling lies? This boxed set is in limited quantity. GW is not producing them forever and surely this mornings massive sellout shows that it was most certainly a limited product. Even accounting for those who have bought a box just for the rules and will sell off both the model sets (basically meaning they got a free rulebook even if they sell the models at £60 each which is the fair price most consider for a split army content without profiting).

Sure we know that the rulebook, models and all other content is not limited production, but the SALE price for the boxed set is the limited element.

 Overread wrote:

stratigo wrote:

 Overread wrote:
GW said they are making one batch of stock and once that is sold its gone. Now it might be that from that batch they are splitting it into two or more production/packing waves.

It might also be that they've not put up all the stock for sale in one go and are teasing it out a bit. Or that they are expecting to get "stock back" in the form of regional stock getting reallocated from places that didn't sell out. etc....


In general though once the stock is gone its gone; we just have no idea how much they started with nor how much has been sold.

And GW..... lies. And right now they are pushing "BUY NOW! DON'T THINK! JUST BUY! NOW!".

How are they telling lies? This boxed set is in limited quantity. GW is not producing them forever and surely this mornings massive sellout shows that it was most certainly a limited product. Even accounting for those who have bought a box just for the rules and will sell off both the model sets (basically meaning they got a free rulebook even if they sell the models at £60 each which is the fair price most consider for a split army content without profiting).

Sure we know that the rulebook, models and all other content is not limited production, but the SALE price for the boxed set is the limited element.

You misunderstand. I don't know if GW are lying right now, whether blatantly or with subtlety. But GW lies regularly and taking their words at face value in this isn't necessarily useful or productive. Will they do another release? Maybe, regardless of what GW says or what they imply.

GW is a 'Hanlon's razor' exemplar.