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Hi

Today I found out that light sources get VERY far in the competition but I need to know a good way to do eye light sources for a terminator, can anyone help?

Do you mean how to represent them or how to paint it as hough There is one.

how to paint it like light is coming off the eyes

i dont wanna be rude or anything,but after looking at your gallery images i need to tell you that you have to master basic painting techniques before going further or thinking about entering at golden demon.

HamHam, for all we know, those are just his tabletop quality stuff, and his display quality stuff is tons better, but I agree. Not to discourage you, but if that is your maximum level of painting achievement thus far, you really should reconsider.

Dont listen to the nay sayers. If you want to enter a mini in any painting comp, even the golden demon, go right ahead. Dont let people talk you down man.

Look in the tutorial sections here in DAKKA, use the search function and Im sure youll find plenty of light sorce techniques. Good luck man

The other thing to remember about GD is that the judges will be looking for something unique/different/crazy.....Following an internet guide about how to paint glowing eyes will not get you very far with them :( Learning a new technique from said guide, then using it in an original way will get the judges interested

@KingCracker: Well said sir! No one ever got better at anything by not trying it.

@OP: The GD is a great occasion to ask questions about painting. Some of the very best attend every year and i have yet to meet a single person who wasn't willing to share tips or discuss techniques. Dakka is the same; post your work and we'll all try to give you some feedback

That's a little harsh, his paintings not that bad. He paints better than me!

Anyway, just look at things with a different perspective in real life. You'll notice things about the way light moves.

Try also coolminiornot for tutorials.

Thanks guys for most of the posotive attitude but have a look at the bronze winner and compare the painting on that to mine. the only reson he got third is because he used light sourcing. if he used it better he would of got gold.


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also in my picture the pictures are rubbish you would see why i am entering it if you saw it in flesh

madman12367 wrote:Thanks guys for most of the posotive attitude but have a look at the bronze winner and compare the painting on that to mine. the only reson he got third is because he used light sourcing. if he used it better he would of got gold.

Which category? Which year?

this year in diorama and lord of the rings single minature

Madman, no offense, but I think you are underestimating the quality of the winning models.


If you want to work towards light sources, then by all means do it.

You should never give up on trying out new techniques or styles based solely on your level of skill, but please just don't expect to be painting to golden demon standard with them quickly.

madman12367 wrote:this year in diorama and lord of the rings single minature

I'm not sure which LoTR miniature you are referring to but I guess this is the Bronze awarded Diorama you meant, from Jeff Willhelm?



Umm...he's used a lot of source lighting yeah but I think it might be a bit rich to say....

madman12367 wrote:have a look at the bronze winner and compare the painting on that to mine. the only reson he got third is because he used light sourcing

He is quite clearly a very talented painter and modeller.

Ifalna wrote:Madman, no offense, but I think you are underestimating the quality of the winning models.


If you want to work towards light sources, then by all means do it.

You should never give up on trying out new techniques or styles based solely on your level of skill, but please just don't expect to be painting to golden demon standard with them quickly.

Yeah,these guys have been painting for well on generations. I thought I was good, then I read an article on that sexy marneus calgar from a while back Soooooooooo much work. It takes weeks upon weeks of constant painting to be as good as them.

Funny, to me light sourcing is to painting what the b/w with one color bit photos are to general photography. A gimic, and actually kind of lame. That diorama would look a lot better without the bad colors.

As to the OP, it looks like you've started using a fair few techniques, I think I see evidence of blends and dry brush at least. What seems to be lacking in those shots though is precision. Something that seems to come only with a lot of practice, something I'm still working on myself. Basically, good work, now keep at it.

the light effects above would look awsome if it was dark enough to cpntrast that much light,its just like NMM its getting over done

the pic above looks like in the middel of the day so the lcd would not show as much as this,its a nice diorama but.....blah blah

to the OP your painting is great youll get there soon but remember,its all good if you love your work andthats all that matters

See I have to side with everyone above, but although OSL is "lame" to some, this technique is a far advanced on in miniature painting. Even in any contemporary or tradition painting sense. The ability to blend a color and lighten it into another color is a very tedious task, and one that is only accomplished when an artists painting level has hit a great success.

You must get wet blending or even layering or feathering with multiple colors down before you can accomplish this technique.

BTW, OSL doesnt always win competitions. No one technique will win you GD. Originality and perfection will.

Hey madman, are you looking into entering the "Young Blood" category? (In which case I encourage you to kick some ass)

Im loving the replies, keep it coming because i am pick lots of tips up hear

thanks

agreed that one type of skill wont win the GD


madman.....be sure to think out side the box......sculpted models with lots of mods can due some good a@@ kicken as well...with a good paint job

im sure youll do fine.......and at the event youll pick up some great pointers as well.....have fun and keep happy painting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

can you please look at my pic of my diorama and tell me what mods (modifications?) i need to do

btw,here a tut for glowing eyes

http://www.coolminiornot.com/article/aid/288

and here a tut on "real" osl

http://www.coolminiornot.com/article/aid/328

The silver is too bright.

Some suggestions:

1) I'd paint the skulls the same colour they are usually painted in GW's pictures. They look a little artificial when they're green.
2) Clean up the Tyranids, and loose the bright colouring on the gun tubing.
3) Add a bit of pink to the infestation marker, it looks a bit too dusty and not organic enough at the moment.

i hade a look in your image gallary, and i say try and work more on the grung look you have. try and master it more and i think that you can kick some ass.

the key is to paint then you paint some more!!!

never give up, look at a lot of tuts master the basic stuff and then you try and work your own style in to the stuff you are working on.

Needs to be cleaned up substantially. The transitions are far too grainy, and look like they've been done with some fairly simple drybrushing. To get very far, you'll need much smoother transitions.

The white on the Terminator (especially the face) suffers from similar problems. The coverage appears pretty weak, and unless there's some extremely complicated freehand detail there that I'm not seeing, you need a lot more coats (and probably a better build up under those coats) to get a nice, solid white.

Also, your color selection isn't helping you a lot here. The only bright colors you have are drawing attention to all the wrong spots. The bright yellows and blues on the bioweapons, and purples on the claws pull the eye away from more visually interesting and important places, like the Terminator, and the faces of the models. I suggest brushing up (art classes are your best bet!) on color and compositional theory. The different elements of your composition should bring the arrangement together. Right now, the colors and placements of the models just make the eye jump around randomly, and makes it look like a confused jumble.

Finally, you need to tie your diorama together better. Elements like the tyranid growths look like they've just been dropped on, not grown organically, and the Warrior looks like he's falling backwards off of the rubble, especially with his one hoof raised. Right now, it looks more like a handful of separate models have been thrown onto some scenery for a picture, not like a cohesive diorama.

Keep painting! You're in a decent place right now, and if you keep practicing the basics, and work on new techniques, you'll get there yet.

Good advice. Looks like you spent a fairly long amount of time on your fist post!

Samus_aran115 wrote:Good advice. Looks like you spent a fairly long amount of time on your fist post!

Nothing like a slow day at work to get the writing juices flowing.

gd france 2010 youngbloods winner Loic Haueur

considering his age his osl technique is unbelievable