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I'm hearing reports from people in cinemas watching the preview and there being an audible groan when Shyamalan's name comes up in the trailer.
The guy is box office poison.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
I always knew elevators were an instrument of the Devil.
That's why I'm a stairs only man.
"Order. Unity. Obedience. We taught the galaxy these things, and we shall do so again."
"They are not your worst nightmare; they are your every nightmare."
"Let the galaxy burn!"
Ahtman wrote:M. Night had the original story pitch but it is directed and written by other people. His involvement is much more limited than any of his movies.
Ahtman wrote:M. Night had the original story pitch but it is directed and written by other people. His involvement is much more limited than any of his movies.
Why couldn't the rest of his work be this way XD
The real question is, especially after his last movie tanked hard, are they dropping his name as a selling point?
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
I can only assume this movie was approved before the abomination that was "The Last Airbender"... Seriously, that atrocity was a live abortion caught on film.
Corey85 wrote:Aren't stairs just the Devils first go at evilly connecting floors?
/sigh I guess I have to go back to levitating through windows, what a chore
"Order. Unity. Obedience. We taught the galaxy these things, and we shall do so again."
"They are not your worst nightmare; they are your every nightmare."
"Let the galaxy burn!"
IG_urban wrote:I can forgive him for thevilliageladyinthewaterthehappeningthelastairbender, I think this movie looks like it could be very creepy and really good.
that being said, he's an arrogant prick, but so it Spielberg, and look at his movies....(not all of them are good)
Not every Spielberg movie is great, but when they fail they tend to fail for understandable reasons, there's always risk in art. He's not made a hack film.
On the other hand, The Lady in the Water, The Happening and by all reports Avatar are hack works. They show the kind of craft you'd expect from a guy cranking out a couple of low rent slasher movies a year.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Never heard of this guy, possibly because I've never seen any of his movies (or if I have, I've not noticed who has directed/etc them, which is more possible ).
Why exactly is he so bad? And is he Transformers 1&2 bad (Michael Bay is it?), or bad in some other way?
SilverMK2 wrote:Never heard of this guy, possibly because I've never seen any of his movies (or if I have, I've not noticed who has directed/etc them, which is more possible ).
Why exactly is he so bad? And is he Transformers 1&2 bad (Michael Bay is it?), or bad in some other way?
Michael Bay is a studio director. That is to say, he gets brought in to the process of a film a studio is making, and he basically project manages the thing - making sure that sets are ready on time for the shooting schedule, that CGI has the resources needed to produce shots in time, that kind of thing. The actual creative work of the film is handled by a collection of studio heads, filtered through the director to a team of script writers. Bay is a part of the creative process, which is why his films will typically be even dumber and louder than most blockbusters, but he doesn't have creative control.
Shyamalan in more of an auteur director. The idea for the film is his, he writes or co-writes the script, builds the storyboards, he casts his leads and directs. His early films, The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable were excellent movies and showed an interesting style, he made classic suspense movies well served by careful construction and surprise endings. Since then he's become something of a parody of himself, his careful construction has started to make his films feel mechanical and his twist endings have been non-sensical in a few cases.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
I quite liked 6th sense, and though Unbreakable was a bit meh, it was OK.
To be honest I never really know who is behind films - I just sit and watch them (and occasionally stop watching them part way through if they are rubbish).
Was just wondering what kind of bad this guy was is all
IG_urban wrote:I can forgive him for thevilliageladyinthewaterthehappeningthelastairbender, I think this movie looks like it could be very creepy and really good.
that being said, he's an arrogant prick, but so it Spielberg, and look at his movies....(not all of them are good)
Not every Spielberg movie is great, but when they fail they tend to fail for understandable reasons, there's always risk in art. He's not made a hack film.
On the other hand, The Lady in the Water, The Happening and by all reports Avatar are hack works. They show the kind of craft you'd expect from a guy cranking out a couple of low rent slasher movies a year.
I was referring Spielberg to Shyamalan for the prick reference, and nothing else. That is why I separated that statement from the rest of my post and began it with "that being said".
Automatically Appended Next Post: I do agree with you, though.
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I quite liked 6th sense, and though Unbreakable was a bit meh, it was OK.
To be honest I never really know who is behind films - I just sit and watch them (and occasionally stop watching them part way through if they are rubbish).
Was just wondering what kind of bad this guy was is all
Fair enough. His recent effort was Avatar: The Last Airbender. That seemed to be the movie that convinced most people he was history's greatest monster.
IG_urban wrote:I was referring Spielberg to Shyamalan for the prick reference, and nothing else. That is why I separated that statement from the rest of my post and began it with "that being said".
Yeah, but my point was that while Spielberg has made a couple of movies that haven't been great, he's never made sloppy, bad films. He's got a record that everyone should respect, and while it's never good to be an donkey-cave, you can at least accept it's due to his achievements. Shyamalan doesn't have that record to fall back on.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Golden Eyed Scout wrote:After Signs, everything went downhill from there.
After Signs?
Signs is a true love / hate film, evidently like Cloverfield. People who have seen it either absolutely love it or hate it.
I was not a fan of unbreakable. You figure out the plot pretty quickly and its kind of shrug your soldiers meh.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
sebster wrote:I'm hearing reports from people in cinemas watching the preview and there being an audible groan when Shyamalan's name comes up in the trailer.
The guy is box office poison.
There seriously is. Either groans or laughter. Either way, it's not a good sign.
I'm going to guess it's actually the building trying to kill them. The buildings is trapping people in it's elevators and gradually picking them off one by one because the building is also built on a former criminal insane asylum and the brain waves of the dead criminals have seeped into the foundations slowly coalescing into a malevolent group consciousness or the "devil".
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Ahtman wrote:How is Spielberg an arrogant prick? Always seemed a nice enough fellow.
Who said he was an arrogant prick?
Also: KERMIT
IG_urban
Thanks for that. Not exactly sure how Spielberg is an arrogant prick either tbh.
@ Avantgarde- Nah, the actual twist is that there is actually an angel inside trying to protect all of the people in the elevator because they are the chosen of God, while everyone else on the outside of the elevator is destroyed by the apocalypse.
"Order. Unity. Obedience. We taught the galaxy these things, and we shall do so again."
"They are not your worst nightmare; they are your every nightmare."
"Let the galaxy burn!"
<-- Finally, level 666! 
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