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Has anyone else got to level 50+ and finding the game extremely difficult in some areas? I have fought up to 5 Draugr Deathlords at a time and Falmer Shadowmasters or whatever their called usually kill me in one arrow with 100 heavy armour wearing Dragon Armour.

I plan to boost using enchanting/alchemy/smithing, but I need to level my alchemy and get the right herbs D:

Im on normal, and have never had trouble before, I also have all the best weapons in the game so idk. The enemy scaling gets pretty fudged once you hit 48ish.

Shadowmasters? I'm level 30 and I two-shot them with bows. Granted, they're sneak attacks, and there's only a few of them, but still.

KingCracker wrote:

n0t_u wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Any suggestions for someone who just got Skyrim and has no idea where to start (never played Oblivion).

Purchase an air cannon for the office.

Derp sha derp on their part

I think it was an office prank. Some settle for just printscreening the desktop and setting it as the desktop, these guys take it to 11.

Jaon wrote:Has anyone else got to level 50+ and finding the game extremely difficult in some areas? I have fought up to 5 Draugr Deathlords at a time and Falmer Shadowmasters or whatever their called usually kill me in one arrow with 100 heavy armour wearing Dragon Armour.

I plan to boost using enchanting/alchemy/smithing, but I need to level my alchemy and get the right herbs D:

Im on normal, and have never had trouble before, I also have all the best weapons in the game so idk. The enemy scaling gets pretty fudged once you hit 48ish.

Mhm, nope, I played the whole game on expert and never had much trouble. Though I did have nearly 2k armor at the end. And did around 400damage with my mace and war axe....

Once more Soladrin reminds us that if you abuse gamebreaking glitches things become easy.

@ whoever wanted to go unarmed, train heavy armour! There is a perk that allows you to deal your heavy gauntlets armour rating in unarmed damage with each punch +normal unarmed damage + the khajjit bonus which adds up to some pretty decent damage, on par with normal close combat attacks. The armour rating is also dependant on your heavy armour skill so raising heavy armour even after getting that perk will increase the damage even more.

Twas I!
Dont really wanna go heavy armor though because Im playing sneaky cat, thief type creature (whilst casting destro spells) :(

It is a flaw in the system, but sneaking isn't bad in heavy armor.

Especially with muffle spells.

I play light armour for everything other than gauntlets for exactly that reason.

Jaon wrote:Has anyone else got to level 50+ and finding the game extremely difficult in some areas? I have fought up to 5 Draugr Deathlords at a time and Falmer Shadowmasters or whatever their called usually kill me in one arrow with 100 heavy armour wearing Dragon Armour.

I plan to boost using enchanting/alchemy/smithing, but I need to level my alchemy and get the right herbs D:

Im on normal, and have never had trouble before, I also have all the best weapons in the game so idk. The enemy scaling gets pretty fudged once you hit 48ish.

It absolutely gets really hard, depending on how you leveled.

I gained most of my levels by doing smithing/enchanting and spamming Muffle and other spells to level those up. Plus, I got Pickpocket to 100 and spent my training session on the off-skills I never used.

So, I got to level 50 and was still pretty bad at what I did "best" (1-hand, heavy armor). So, the game became INSANELY difficult. I got passed that by buying Daedra Hearts to make my armor, and by finishing off enchanting so I could duel-enchant. Now, the game is insanely easy.

n0t_u wrote:

KingCracker wrote:

n0t_u wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Any suggestions for someone who just got Skyrim and has no idea where to start (never played Oblivion).

Purchase an air cannon for the office.

Derp sha derp on their part

I think it was an office prank. Some settle for just printscreening the desktop and setting it as the desktop, these guys take it to 11.

Those guys are feeling the effects of the "Oh gak" moment, you can tell.
Tee hee, hes about to open the door, ready?
ready!!!!! SQUEEEEEEE!
*door pops open*
NAOW!
KABLAMMY!!!!!
*blasts office co-worker across the room and into desks*
.......
......
.....
......
uhm.......Brian?

KingCracker wrote:

n0t_u wrote:

KingCracker wrote:

n0t_u wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Any suggestions for someone who just got Skyrim and has no idea where to start (never played Oblivion).

Purchase an air cannon for the office.

Derp sha derp on their part

I think it was an office prank. Some settle for just printscreening the desktop and setting it as the desktop, these guys take it to 11.

Those guys are feeling the effects of the "Oh gak" moment, you can tell.
Tee hee, hes about to open the door, ready?
ready!!!!! SQUEEEEEEE!
*door pops open*
NAOW!
KABLAMMY!!!!!
*blasts office co-worker across the room and into desks*
.......
......
.....
......
uhm.......Brian?

*Brian gets up*
"I got you guys!"
*Everyone laughs*
*Awkward Silence*
"Uh, Brian, whatever you do, try not to look to your left..."
*Brian looks to his left*
"AAAARRGGGHHH, MY FETHING ARM!"

The armour I can enchant atm is rubbish compared to the archmages robes I got. I think I have 3/5 of the enchanting perk, and I seem to be able to make pretty useful rings but my robes suck.
Also any cheap way of getting empty soul gems or should I just buy as many as I can whenever I see them?

The only thing close to an unarmed perk I have seen is the Heavy Armor perk that increases your punch damage when wearing heavy armored gloves. This in no way makes it viable as an actual attack, just helps when brawling.

edit: beaten
Might be viable with a khajit bonus, but is certainly not on any other character. Even with a khajit, I doubt it will be more effective than the worst weapon you could find.
edit2: I remember when you first enter the Thieves Guild, there is an enemy with gloves that do bonus to unarmed damage. Maybe if you used that enchantment on everything you might stand a chance.

Yes, the Orc in the ratway has gloves that let you do more damage with had to hand.

Thanks peeps, I'll give it a go and let you know how it goes. Have gone double destro too so have that as a backup should things go pear.

Enchanting perks make a pretty big difference, as do enchanting potions.

My Skyrim soundtrack comes in the mail today!

And it's autographed by the composer!

*Squee*

Lucky bum. I've been listening to it on Youtube.

It's just not the same.

Is it bad I only use dragon rend, ww sprint, and sometimes detect life?

All the damage shouts I dont bother with, and others dont appeal to me.

Throw voice was ok because it let me hear myself, but after that I never used it again

Unrelenting Force helps me a lot, seeing as I tend to have big fights on cliffs.

Jaon wrote:Has anyone else got to level 50+ and finding the game extremely difficult in some areas? I have fought up to 5 Draugr Deathlords at a time and Falmer Shadowmasters or whatever their called usually kill me in one arrow with 100 heavy armour wearing Dragon Armour.

I plan to boost using enchanting/alchemy/smithing, but I need to level my alchemy and get the right herbs D:

Im on normal, and have never had trouble before, I also have all the best weapons in the game so idk. The enemy scaling gets pretty fudged once you hit 48ish.

I did the ogmah infinium glitch to get to lvl 81
Worst choice ever
Every dragon is an elder
Every draugr is a deathlord
Every [everything else] is max level

Its awful

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Is it bad I only use dragon rend, ww sprint, and sometimes detect life?

I have never used detect life, but I got it very late in the game so that is probably why.
The shout I used most was marked for death (especially on dragons before i got dragon rend)
The other two that I used frequently were unrelenting force (so useful against mass enemies, so hilarious on steep terrain) and slow time (best used with a melee character I think).

You're right that the damage shouts were practically useless.

Edit: Ice form was nice too.

Soladrin wrote:

Jaon wrote:Has anyone else got to level 50+ and finding the game extremely difficult in some areas? I have fought up to 5 Draugr Deathlords at a time and Falmer Shadowmasters or whatever their called usually kill me in one arrow with 100 heavy armour wearing Dragon Armour.

I plan to boost using enchanting/alchemy/smithing, but I need to level my alchemy and get the right herbs D:

Im on normal, and have never had trouble before, I also have all the best weapons in the game so idk. The enemy scaling gets pretty fudged once you hit 48ish.

Mhm, nope, I played the whole game on expert and never had much trouble. Though I did have nearly 2k armor at the end. And did around 400damage with my mace and war axe....

Yeah see I havent done any of that smithing/enchanting/alchemy boosting gak yet, so my bow does 100 damage and my total armour is 200....


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Dunwich wrote:

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Is it bad I only use dragon rend, ww sprint, and sometimes detect life?

I have never used detect life, but I got it very late in the game so that is probably why.
The shout I used most was marked for death (especially on dragons before i got dragon rend)
The other two that I used frequently were unrelenting force (so useful against mass enemies, so hilarious on steep terrain) and slow time (best used with a melee character I think).

You're right that the damage shouts were practically useless.

Edit: Ice form was nice too.

While I use all shouts (if you use a damage shout that a target is weak against, such as a frost troll and Fire breath, youll do well) I do find FUS RO DAH to be the most combat effective, because you can blow stuff off stairs / cliffs / overhangs and kill it with fall damage.

Jaon wrote:While I use all shouts (if you use a damage shout that a target is weak against, such as a frost troll and Fire breath, youll do well) I do find FUS RO DAH to be the most combat effective, because you can blow stuff off stairs / cliffs / overhangs and kill it with fall damage.

I'm not a fan of any shout that can cause damage or indirectly kill anything. Every time you use one of those, you miss out on XP that could go into your 1-Hand/2-Hand/Destruction skill.

Swordwind wrote:Lucky bum. I've been listening to it on Youtube.

It's just not the same.

I got it with my game, because I pre-ordered it.

I'm kind of bored now. I find the lack of any over-arching narrative makes it difficult to stay interested for long, I'm ticking off requirements rather than completing quests.

You bought an open world RPG.

Try getting back on the main quest.

corpsesarefun wrote:You bought an open world RPG.

I bought nothing.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Try getting back on the main quest.

Something to do with dragons? For some reason I need to save the world even though any reasonably powerful chap, of which this world has many, would be able to take them out by himself.
Also since when did a building and a well qualify as a "farm". These guys need fields.
And the world should be 10 times bigger.

Joey wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:You bought an open world RPG.

I bought nothing.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Try getting back on the main quest.

Something to do with dragons? For some reason I need to save the world even though any reasonably powerful chap, of which this world has many, would be able to take them out by himself.
Also since when did a building and a well qualify as a "farm". These guys need fields.
And the world should be 10 times bigger.

Fine, you make an Imperial Province and we'll see how big it is.